Does any one heard of "Quit Hinduism" movement among Dalits ?
Topic started by ananth (@ 209.167.202.210) on Wed Oct 31 11:33:34 .
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- From: vinay (@ 203.199.220.74)
on: Mon Jul 19 06:27:01 EDT 2004
dalits are hindus. christians and muslims are not dalits.
- From: vinay (@ 203.199.220.74)
on: Mon Jul 19 06:27:28 EDT 2004
dalits are hindus. christians and muslims are not dalits.
- From: vinay (@ 203.199.220.74)
on: Mon Jul 19 06:27:34 EDT 2004
dalits are hindus. christians and muslims are not dalits.
- From: vinay (@ 203.199.220.74)
on: Mon Jul 19 06:27:40 EDT 2004
dalits are hindus. christians and muslims are not dalits.
- From: vinay (@ 203.199.220.74)
on: Mon Jul 19 06:27:49 EDT 2004
dalits are hindus. christians and muslims are not dalits.
- From: Rohit (@ cache1-nott.server.ntli.net)
on: Mon Jul 19 13:35:45 EDT 2004
Yes, it may look a very long way up to those who are suffering from sever metal handicaps, permanently trapped in the vicious circle of downward spiral of infinite regress and can’t see the top and way out of the spiral.
Sadly, some of them may never be able to take even the first single step and start the upward journey.
I can only wish them a good luck from the top and outside the vicious spiral.
- From: Rohit (@ cache1-nott.server.ntli.net)
on: Mon Jul 19 15:23:21 EDT 2004
For those who have difficulties figuring out how to take the first step and get started to move upwards from the far lower end of the spiral, please refer to the thread below. The link to the thread is provided below:
http://forumhub.com/tnhistory/17886.10.36.23.html
The Test Continues!
Good Luck!
- From: Surya (@ adsl-64-166-143-81.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net)
on: Mon Jul 19 19:25:13 EDT 2004
not all dalits, just a few dumb idiots like this one, and MMC.
PS: Visit this topic!! http://www.forumhub.com/indfilms/18985.21.25.35.html
- From: DINESH (@ 203.199.224.54)
on: Tue Jul 20 05:24:48 EDT 2004
DALIT MEANS WHAT? SC s ONLY? THEN CHRISTIANS CANNOT BE DALITS.MUSLIMS CANNOT BE DALITS. ALL DALITS FOLLOW A CERTAIN FORM OF HINDUISM ONLY. IN TIRUPATHI LIKE BIG TEMPLES ONE CAN NOT SEE CASTE SYSTEM. ONLY IN VILLAGES CASTE DISCRIMINATION IS AVAILABLE, WHETHER HINDUISM OR CHRISTIANITY. THE PRESENT DAY DALITS TO FOLLOW THE YESTERDAY DALITS LIKE NADARS TO CONSTRUCT TEMPLES ON THEIR OWN AND FIGHT FOR RIGHTS IN THEIR OWN RELIGION ITSELF. CHANGING RELIGION WILL NOT GIVE YOU SOCIAL STATUS IF YOU ARE IN THE SAME VILLAGE."QUIT HINDUISM " M UST BE STARTED BY A "CHRISTIAN 'OR "INFERIRITY COMPLEX DALIT "ONLY
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- From: Rohit (@ cache1-nott.server.ntli.net)
on: Tue Jul 20 14:55:36 EDT 2004
The Advaita Vedanta, the founding pillar of Hinduism, strongly propounds the concept of unity of ParmAtma/Universal Soul/Universal Consciousness/Isvara/God/Brahman” as an “entity” which must be realised by Hindus as the ultimate reality.
Any individual, who identifies himself/herself as Hindu, must not believe in the divisions or segregation of what they believe as ParmAtma/Universal Soul/Universal Consciousness/Isvara/God/Brahman”. If one ever believes in such partition of their beloved “entity/God”, one can never remain and identify himself/herself as Hindu. Those who believe, solicit and/or advocate such caste based identities and segregation of the society in general, they themselves violet their own religion and they are unknowingly renouncing Hinduism.
This is what applies to those who claim to be religious Hindus, but their claims shatters into pieces in the light of Hinduism itself.
- From: Rohit (@ cache1-nott.server.ntli.net)
on: Tue Jul 20 14:56:46 EDT 2004
Since I am rationalist, I don’t believe in those fallacious beliefs of caste system from a humanist and scientific point of view anyway. I am posting here only to get the point across to those imbeciles and mental retards who are completely lost as far as their beliefs in Hinduism are concerned. And yet they keep posting their gibberish and gobbledegook of caste, shudras, dalits and so on, while they are the first and worst quitters of Hinduism.
Read what an Advantin Says about the place of caste in Advaita Vedanta:
“That which is neither subtle nor gross, neither short nor long, which is unborn, unchanging, destitute of form, quality, caste and name, that should be understood as Brahman.”
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:co_8nkUB7GMJ:www.thedivinelifesociety.org/download/god_exists.pdf+invalidity+caste+advaita&hl=en
- From: Rohit (@ cache1-nott.server.ntli.net)
on: Tue Jul 20 15:09:00 EDT 2004
Also check what is said about Swami Vivekananda’s understanding of Vedanta Advaita and caste.
“Swamiji went to Rameshwaram and from there he finally reached Kanyakumari………..
He (Swami) decided that unless casteism was rooted out, there could be no salvation for his countrymen. He concluded that his first task was to go Western countries and expose the spiritual values of India. He would then return to awaken his own slumbering land.”
http://www.calcuttaweb.com/people/vivekananda.shtml
- From: Rohit (@ cache1-nott.server.ntli.net)
on: Tue Jul 20 15:12:31 EDT 2004
Ironically, these idiots keep heedlessly arguing against my above conclusions and assertions, which I have been posting right from the beginning, will now feel terribly embarrassed and washed-up to fully acknowledge that they are the one who proves the 100% applicability of the title of this thread.
There is no end to the imbecility theses mental retards can keep displaying. They constantly keep providing evidence after evidence of their imbecility.
Here is one more evidence.
The former Prime Minister Mr. Atal Behari Vajpayee has pronounced unequivocally more than once that the BJP believes in Hindutva of Swami Vivekananda who was the greatest exponent of Hinduism in modern time. The religion of the Hindus, according to Vivekananda, is divided into two parts: the ceremonial and the spiritual. In the spiritual part there is no room for caste.
http://www.bjp.org/today/may_0203/may_2_p_15.htm
Now the time has come to decide for themselves who is who and who is what?
- From: DINESH (@ leasedchennai-199.220.106.static.vsnl.net.in)
on: Wed Jul 21 02:40:19 EDT 2004
DALIT MEANS WHAT? SC s ONLY? THEN CHRISTIANS CANNOT BE DALITS.MUSLIMS CANNOT BE DALITS. ALL DALITS FOLLOW A CERTAIN FORM OF HINDUISM ONLY. IN TIRUPATHI LIKE BIG TEMPLES ONE CAN NOT SEE CASTE SYSTEM. ONLY IN VILLAGES CASTE DISCRIMINATION IS AVAILABLE, WHETHER HINDUISM OR CHRISTIANITY. THE PRESENT DAY DALITS TO FOLLOW THE YESTERDAY DALITS LIKE NADARS TO CONSTRUCT TEMPLES ON THEIR OWN AND FIGHT FOR RIGHTS IN THEIR OWN RELIGION ITSELF. CHANGING RELIGION WILL NOT GIVE YOU SOCIAL STATUS IF YOU ARE IN THE SAME VILLAGE."QUIT HINDUISM " M UST BE STARTED BY A "CHRISTIAN 'OR "INFERIRITY COMPLEX DALIT "ONLY
- From: myturn (@ 61.247.254.90)
on: Wed Jul 21 11:52:05 EDT 2004
"Quit Hinduism"
That is what real and good Hindus had been telling to these fake Hindus from time immemorial.
You were never accepted into Hinduism in the first place. How will u quit from a religion to which u dont belong.?
Outsider is always an outsider.
- From: Rohit (@ leic-cache-1.server.ntli.net)
on: Sat Jul 24 17:00:07 EDT 2004
“Does any one heard of "Quit Hinduism" movement among Dalits?”
Yes, now I have heard of it; and now, I also know why? They just want to increase their population, presence and nonsense in other religions, such as Christianity and/or Islam. Today, Christianity has got one quitter candidate ready to join and help them match the number and nonsense of sudras and dalits in Hinduism, as he now definitely knows, Christianity has less number of Sudras and nonsense.
Find out the "truth", who is the identified quitter candidate in:
http://forumhub.com/tnhistory/5038.10.01.32.html
I can only wish him all the success in his mammoth endeavour ahead
- From: Ram Lal (@ netcache.wlv.ac.uk)
on: Thu Sep 2 16:05:12
I call on all dalit brothers and sisters to quit the evil hindu religion as I,my friends,family and relatives have done.
I can assure them they will feel better in themselves and be better treated.
- From: davie (@ cim-dell14.cim.utep.edu)
on: Fri Sep 3 00:44:15 EDT 2004
IF A DALIT BECOMES CHRISTIAN, HE LOSES PRIVILIGES.
U KNOW WHY?
HE CANNOT PUT SC/ST (Scheduled caste/Scheduled tribe) in the admission form of medical admissions. Atleast in Tamil nadu, all christians are being documented as BCs. BC itself has thousands of castes.
As a christian by birth, even though i dont follow the religion any more, i think christianity is a nice religion that attracts more people.
Some nice things are sunday worship is just awesome time to relax and make ourselves more good beings, its just a simple and nice religion not like the half-ass religion hinduism.
I know many brahmins who have been converted to christianity.
For muslim people jesus is a prophet and they have respect for him like prophet mohammed
- From: DINESH (@ illchn-static-203.199.224.91.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Sep 3 01:46:13 EDT 2004
RESERVATION IS AVAILBLE TO OBC,s ALSO. 27% IN CENTER AND 50% IN STATE. THEVARS AND NADARS ENJOING RESERVATION ONLY HARDCORE RSS AND BJP IN TN. THEN WHY NOT ADIDRAVIDARS ?
- From: Gogiya (@ palo3.pacific.net.sg)
on: Fri Sep 3 07:09:16 EDT 2004
If you are don't understand the Hinduism.
You are the real person who understands neither the Christianity nor the Islam.
India should ban all the reservation.
The Christianity has no effect to unite the people. It’s luxurious religion which dividing people and blindly ignoring other religion without logic reason, making or confining the Christian people in the dark room. Beyond the room, they doesn’t know anything what’s going on around them.
- From: davie (@ ddn39041)
on: Mon Sep 6 05:59:44 EDT 2004
Hinduism was a nice religion if it did not come into the hands of brahmins.
Christianity does not divide people.
infact jesus was such a nice person that he supported the poor, unpreviliged people and also low class people in jerusalem.
India should ban all reservation. Even then brahmins will be in trouble. haha. coz those brahmins have to compete with B.Cs and most of the B.Cs rock with their talent and performance.
I had one S.C friend who got admitted into medical college in open category ( in the same marks for forward castes, even though the mark requirement was quite low for S.Cs)
AND MR GOGIYA from my experience most OF THE HINDUS KNOW NOTHING ABOUT OTHER NICE RELIGIONS LIKE CHRISTIANITY OR ISLAM
- From: davie (@ ddn39041)
on: Mon Sep 6 06:09:02 EDT 2004
DALIT CHRISTIANS are christians who are dalits.
But there are also BRAHMIN CHRISTIANS, HINDU CHRISTIANS etc.
I dont know how terms like DALIT CHRISTIANS came into existence.
There is nothing wrong in escaping hinduism and those shitt brahmin priests
- From: brahmin (@ n219078165204.netvigator.com)
on: Mon Sep 6 11:49:12 EDT 2004
Hinduism too was bought in by Brahmins the way chrisitianity is penetrated by missionaries.
- From: narayan (@ 203.117.181.12)
on: Tue Sep 7 08:04:43 EDT 2004
not hinduism , it was vedic religion.
- From: davie (@ pc-i63h1uewfk8z)
on: Tue Sep 7 21:35:26 EDT 2004
omg can u guys see the posting by BRAHMIN MORON who has written some false information
- From: davie (@ pc-i63h1uewfk8z)
on: Tue Sep 7 21:36:04 EDT 2004
Again the good news is there are lots of brahmins who do intercaste marriages
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