Are you proud to be an Indian first, tamil second .....tamil first, Indian second .....or proud to be an indian !
Topic started by bharathiyar (@ wc05.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on Sun Jan 26 21:10:20 .
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I am sorry to disrupt the "very intellectual" conversations my south indian brothers are having ......but let us think about something that is of great importance, but yet not talked about by many .......instead of picking on .....let us see who ......brahmins ...punjabis .....eelam tamils ...sinhalese people .....malayalaees ...and so forth .......my question to the larger south indian masses out there ....are you proud of your tamil language and culture, completely forgetting the mother who bore that language ....or do u put your pride in your "indianess" ???
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- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ hse-mtl-ppp66411.qc.sympatico.ca)
on: Tue Jan 13 23:57:39 EST 2004
if u were telling it to Indian noble i think ur right and i agree.
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ hse-mtl-ppp66411.qc.sympatico.ca)
on: Wed Jan 14 00:07:21 EST 2004
-Also get out of your mind that mallus, kannada or telugu will support you! this is real practical fact. But nothing wrong in youbeing unnecessarily patriotic for peanuts.-
Who asked for others help when there is 55 millions Thamizh living in TN it self?!
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ hse-mtl-ppp66411.qc.sympatico.ca)
on: Wed Jan 14 00:09:54 EST 2004
and Indian noble don't think by changing ur names i can't see who u are. You are bharathiyar who started this topic and the Indian Noble and the guy lastly responded with the name Tamil in this forum and a little advice..act like a Thamizhan.
- From: Indianoble (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Wed Jan 14 01:25:27 EST 2004
Fkuc you idiot,
What the hell do you mean " act like a Tahmizhan" , you bakcward ba$tards, you first act like a normal human being, don't behave like a sexually starved nymphomanic bakcward pig.
- From: Indianoble (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Wed Jan 14 01:28:38 EST 2004
"act like a Thamizhan"
You are more like Taliban, you moron.
first learn to be a proper Indian or human being. otherwise you will be beaten up badly wherever you go. people like you only create problem for Tamilians life.
- From: Raj (@ webuser.hampshire.edu)
on: Wed Jan 14 13:46:34 EST 2004
What is Thamizhan?
- From: Indianoble (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Fri Jan 16 09:14:23 EST 2004
Nedunchezhiyan Flanders,
I can see you and a few other nuts have taken advantage of my short absence, well let's start where we left off shall we :)
// Yes Thamizhan begged northies to make Thamizh as one of the official language...by saying Thamizh has all the rights to be in the place of Hindi and English....I don't know how you call it when you don't have power over what you are doing...where you aren't imposing but rather requesting and pleading it with beseech! //
Yes ....and almost all the major parties except for the AIADMK have left their positions with the DMK for allying with the Congress, which I personally believe will lose the elections. Yes - this is a strong case of cowardice I believe. Let's go shoot some people and bomb a few buses and politician's houses, which will result in the deaths and demolition of a strong, powerful Indian state of 60 million people. Good work Nedunchezhiyan, if all of us Indians were as dumb and feeble minded as you, there wouldn't have been no Tamil people at all. Even you so called "freedom fighters" in Eezham are sitting in the negotiation table STILL even whn the SL Govt. is going through it's toughest of times in trying to find a solution as to who holds power in the defence side of things in Lanka. If it was in the past, the Tigers would have withdrawn and went on their normal routine of shootin and killing and getting killed. But now things have changed after 9/11 and you can't go around doing that due to international pressures, not to mention India might intervene, which they do not want. So as you can see, Common sence prevails in many matters. Something which you, to this day, truely lack.
// ----India is and has always been the Thamizh Nadu --- Well yes It was Thamizh naadu during Sanga Literature where only Thamizh existed and even after aryan invasion Thamizh naadu bordered Himalayas mountains. However bro..however...
Bro I don't think u understand the definition of fairy tales...just a reminder here is that fairy tales don't exist and what you said above doesn't either. If India is a Thamizh Nadu I think Thamizh would be the official language or atleast one of the offical of three along with Hindi, and English and not one of the 14th languages and Thamizh is spoken by 60 millions in India as the censorship of India shows and the population of India is over a billion so you do the math. //
If you do the math, you will also know the above comments you have replied to are not mine, but your very own. So thank you in criticizing yourself. You have made an a$s-clown out of yourself. Kudos to you.
HAHAHHAA
// Third of all I don't think I seen AJ calling him Sri Lankan even if he is and you respect it's up to you bro as for me and from what I know a Thamizhan wouldn't call himself a Sri Lankan and if it's done under an enforced consquences then he or she wouldn't be proud of it unless he or she is illiterated about their mother tonghue to history and didn't born in Eezham or know the history! //
Well well the great Nedunchezhiyan Flanders is is making stipulations as to who can call himself a Sri Lankan. Well, your very act shows timiditity in it's purest form. Practise what you preach. If you say Indian Tamils shouldn't call themselves Tamil then do the same with your people and have the balls in denying it full heartedly, and don't give some half-boiled remarks like "well, if it's this case ..then this ..but I won't do this personally"
// Oh yes and about ur first language being Thamizh and malayalam tell me brother do you know Thamizh fluently or it goes like the Chennai Thamizh? -Just a curious question. //
This is none of your business. The question of whether I can or cannot speak Tamil is not at issue here. But to answer your question - I am not a good Tamil speaker, but that doesn't mean I speak Chennai Tamil. What is so wrong with Chennai Tamil ...it's another way of speaking Tamil just like Chera Thamizh was, back in the olden days. You know, any language, and even Tamil, has been assimilated with oer cultures and has therefore come out differently, than the Tamil on your side of the fence. This is not a bad thing. It's called - evolution. Live with it.
// I'm sorry but i think i never meant to be a "dravidan fanatic", what I am is Thamizh fanatic //
Well thank you for making that point. I am proud to say we Thamizh Nadu Thamizhar (Inthiya makkal ..in your case ..Sinthiya Makkal ..Lol) are one nutcase short.
about your comments on SL ...tell that to the Sri Lankan Tamilians like AJ, who prides himself on being a proud Sri Lankan from Thamizh Eezham. In fact, go all over Toronto, and speak to the Eezham Tamil youths who take pride inc alling themselves Sri Lankan these days. I frankly, don't care.
// I'm blind from your point of view but I see the differences and I have lived in a refugee camp for 4 years and travelled like Gypsies for 2 years in the war and I suffered and saw other people suffer. //
Well now I can see where your insanity stems from. Well now I don't blame you. I really dont. You see, from a psychological stanpoint, people who go through such hardships really do see the world in a very skewed way. Their interpretation of society and people around them is bent to serve his/her aspirations that were never fulfilled, during their time of crisis, and would prefer to live in a more imaginary, heavenly world, rather than lviing in the real world, which is full pf pain and suffering. You are a product of a civil war, and is now suffering from Eutopian fantasies on how the Tamil people must live, so that your vision and the vision of many other sane minded-turned-to-fanatics, can be true, which never did become true. And the sad part, all of you are living in denial.
// I think dreams come true and so will Thamizheezham //
I don't blame you no more man. Let me shed a tear for you. :'(
Dream on ....I think the popular phrase "live in your world, play in mine" really does suit you.
// don't show your mallu side! //
hha ..my mallu side os more Tamil loving than your Tamil side. Unfortunately, I am not a nut on a Eutopian dream trip.
// Because 250,000 Thamizh people in Guyana //
I tihnk we need Urme right now to rectify this number. 250, 000 !!! ...those were the number of Indians - both South and North who came to Guyana as labourers. And who says all the South Indians were Tamilians - many of them can be Telungars, Malayalis and even Tamilis. I am not disagreeing Tamil presence in the island, but sorry to disappoint you again, sir. The number of Tamils was not 250, 000. Dream on.
// same with those live in Malaysia, Singapore, Mauritius, South Afirca, USA, European countries and other Asian countries exclude TN and Thamizheezham...//
hahah ..i really would like to see some Malaysian or Singaporean Indian respond to this ...I guess I am the only nut who might want to listen to this. Good luck on having us to listen to you. The only people among us who will listen to you are people like me, who will take the first chance to boot you out of our sight.
// because Thamizh in TN aren't able to do things just like the similar situation in Thamizheezham and since the 80% of the Thamizh population lives in current TN //
Buddy ...we Thamizh Nadd Thamizhar are in a FAAAARRR better situation than you guys are in. Me, proving that is just a waist of my time and if you can't see it for yourself, then my stance is only being proved more stronger that you are a dreamer and can only dream and will remain dreaming all your life. Thank to our tolerance and understanding, we are far better off than you guys, in terms of lifestyle and economics and real political power.Thanks to Tolerance and understanding. Something, many of your people, truely lacked in the beginning and are slowly acquiring it. You, my friend, are a big exception :)
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Rest of the guys who talked nonsence can go fart off somewhere else I am done here.
Thank you.
and one mroe thing -- I am Bharathiyar ..I was the one who started this topic ...I wanted to see where many Indian Tamils loyalty lies after seeing many nutcases in this forum, the first time i entered this joint. But now I should not have made this thread, since this place is swarming with Northy Jatts like this ingrate, above who hides behind my name and dravidian/Tamil nuts like yourself who can't seem to distunguish dreams from reality.
Vanakam __/|\__
Vande Mataram.
- From: Indianoble (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Fri Jan 16 09:16:45 EST 2004
// If you say Indian Tamils shouldn't call themselves Tamil then do the same with your people and have the balls in denying it full heartedly //
It should be read ...shouldn't call themselves Indian.
Sorry
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