Topic started by U.R. SENEVIRATNE (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on Sat Feb 8 06:28:34 .
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Prof Sudharshan Seneviratne stated that Prakrit inscriptions found at Anuradhapura is the oldest in the South Indian zone.Arikamedu and Kodumalan Prakrit inscriptions are of later age.This points to spread of oldest early iron age civilization from western Sri lanka to Thamraparni area in the South India instead of reverse direction

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• From: s. pakeya (@ cache-loh-af03.proxy.aol.com) on: Sat Feb 8 08:31:07
  
  Hi folks
  
  Udaya seniviretne's revisionist archeological findings clearly proves the fact that he was the first Ape to have been born through his mother's anus as opposed to the other orifice.
  
  
• From: Gampaha (@ dsl081-104-130.den1.dsl.speakeasy.net) on: Sun Feb 9 21:04:41
  
  Seneviratne
  
  good job, machan. demala bahlang ta atha kiyan owna. sinhala jaya weva!
  
  
• From: Madhura (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Tue Mar 11 03:22:10
  
  I find people who want to create a ''Tamil'' ethnicity out of ethnically diverse communities in south india have no knowledge of archaeology or any other logical knowledge. They seem only want to satisfy their alien masters and weaken countries they live in.They talk of building a separate civilization next door to Shri lanka without looking at Shri Lanka's ancient civilization,but was not able to establish independent state which Singhelese in Shri Lanka did as well as innumerable groups of people who took their civilization from legendary 16 Janapadas in Sarasvati Sindhu zone such as Burma,Thailand,Indonesia,Malaysia,Campuchia etc
  
  
• From: Madhura (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Tue Mar 11 03:22:53
  
  I find people who want to create a ''Tamil'' ethnicity out of ethnically diverse communities in south india have no knowledge of archaeology or any other logical knowledge. They seem only want to satisfy their alien masters and weaken countries they live in.They talk of building a separate civilization next door to Shri lanka without looking at Shri Lanka's ancient civilization,but was not able to establish independent state which Singhelese in Shri Lanka did as well as innumerable groups of people who took their civilization from legendary 16 Janapadas in Sarasvati Sindhu zone such as Burma,Thailand,Indonesia,Malaysia,Campuchia etc
  
  
• From: Sadhan (@ 202.71.159.34) on: Tue Mar 11 07:56:30
  
  Out!! Out!! All of you! What are you doing in the Thamizh History zone?
  
  
  
  
• From: Sadhan (@ 202.71.159.34) on: Tue Mar 11 08:01:21
  
  Seneviratne,
  
  What are you doing in British Council?
  
  British Council is for learned ones, not for illiterates like you. Do you get it?
  
  Be a good boy and don't post anything stupid like this. I am being very polite with you other wise I'll ask Karuvayan, mmc, Alphonse to respond to your query.
  
  
• From: Visaki Arikamedu (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Wed Mar 12 07:11:49
  
  Dear Sadhan,
  
  Your theory on a separate Ethnicity linking Chola ,Pandya and Pallava subjects and lot others lived without states in this area next door to earstwhile Singhelese kingdom on the basis of a language which consolidated in this area after 8th century messes up with successfully established Singhala dominated Shri lanka.You did not get independent state as you based on only a language not a long historical kingdom.
  
  
• From: Visaki Arikamedu (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Wed Mar 12 07:13:05
  
  Dear Sadhan,
  
  Your theory on a separate Ethnicity linking Chola ,Pandya and Pallava subjects and lot others lived without states in this area next door to earstwhile Singhelese kingdom on the basis of a language which consolidated in this area after 8th century messes up with successfully established Singhala dominated Shri lanka.You did not get independent state as you based on only a language not a long historical kingdom.You have not got a history separate from India
  
  
• From: Visaki Arikamedu (@ mail.britishcouncil.lk) on: Wed Mar 12 07:13:13
  
  Dear Sadhan,
  
  Your theory on a separate Ethnicity linking Chola ,Pandya and Pallava subjects and lot others lived without states in this area next door to earstwhile Singhelese kingdom on the basis of a language which consolidated in this area after 8th century messes up with successfully established Singhala dominated Shri lanka.You did not get independent state as you based on only a language not a long historical kingdom.You have not got a history separate from India
  
  
• From: Raguram (@ 80-192-98-240.dial.cvx03.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) on: Thu May 29 18:42:26
  
  What is the dating for the inscriptions.
  "Seneviratne stated that Prakrit inscriptions found at Anuradhapura is the oldest in the South Indian zone!
  
  So far The inscriptions found in Tamil Nadu are the oldest within India.
  
  
• From: Raguram (@ 80-192-98-240.dial.cvx03.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) on: Thu May 29 18:52:14 EDT 2003
  
  Tamil grammar that we stil use was written about 6th century BC.
  
  Archiological evidence I've seen about TN dates back to 300BC.
  http://www.infitt.org/thf/monument/oodu/sangkam.html
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  http://www.infitt.org/thf/
  
  
  
• From: jegan (@ 202.52.194.164) on: Thu May 29 23:05:54 EDT 2003
  
  seneviratne, my sinhla sahodaraya, I am not qualified or have knowledge to speak about inscriptions. Can you give us proof or references to your title. In my view, sinhalese could not have had civilization without tamil participation. In every sinhala kingdom, you find tamil somewhere. either as a queen or king.
  
  
• From: udaya seneviratne (@ 203.115.31.44) on: Sat May 31 02:19:41 EDT 2003
  
  Tamil in Singhalese references are to a group of prakrit speaking people in south india who started kingdoms and indian ways in deccan.Upto 10 th century there are no tamil loan words in Singhalese which has the longest inscriptional record of a evolution of a language.In ancient Singhalese inscriptions the so called tamils are having contemporary Singhala Prakrit names and when we inspects ancient Singhalese legends and historical as well as mithological documents it is clear that the so called tamils as well as neighbours of Singhalese in Suoth or north india spoke a prakrit similar to Singhalese.This is specially so in case of ancient south indians.I suppose it is clear for you that Singhala and Tamila both has a misterious "LA" ending. In case of Singhalese it may mean ELA meaning FAIR the name ending and dynastic origin of first line of kings in Anuradhapura.
  In tamilnadu Arikamedu and Kodumalan sites have shown definitely of antiquity of Pisachi Prakrit in the south india.These researches have been done by Prof K. Rajan of Tamil university of Thanjavuru.
  In any case if there was a tamil grammar by 6th century there there would not definitely been a Singhala state in Sri Lanka as well as Jain records of 6th century Mahajanapadas would have recorded them as Mlechcha Bhasha of great influence.But that has not happened.Dighambara Jains who established there hold in present day tribal state of Wananchal are on record as the group who started civilization in tamilnadu.They are supposed to have come there through tribal forest belt as wandering hermits
  The very person who gave india its national symbol overlooked staes in tamilnadu bearing prakrit names and decided Anuradhapura is the most powerful kingdom south of Narmada with whom he can deal in a civilized way.
  
  
• From: Thamilan (@ 12.151.162.21) on: Sat May 31 04:54:41 EDT 2003
  
  Nay Vala Nimirtha Mudiyuma
  
  Or The new wording
  
  Singhala Van MuLlayayi Nimirtha Mudiyuma
  
  Next thisng they will do is go to TN and through the Thamilar out of there and claim it it was their ancient kingdom of Kasipu.
  
  Evvalave Unnmayanalum Sollorathu Vellangath.
  
  The remedy is
  
  ADI Untahi
  
  Arumai mattila malpencha kathatha
  
  
• From: Thamilan (@ 12.151.162.21) on: Sat May 31 04:54:56 EDT 2003
  
  Nay Vala Nimirtha Mudiyuma
  
  Or The new wording
  
  Singhala Van MuLlayayi Nimirtha Mudiyuma
  
  Next thisng they will do is go to TN and through the Thamilar out of there and claim it it was their ancient kingdom of Kasipu.
  
  Evvalave Unnmayanalum Sollorathu Vellangath.
  
  The remedy is
  
  ADI Untahi
  
  Erumai mattila malpencha kathatha
  
  
• From: Tyagi (@ 203.115.31.44) on: Tue Jun 3 08:15:02 EDT 2003
  
  Sanghama literature is dated by considering that there was a Singhalese king called Gajabahu in the 2nd century A.D.
  The very word Sanghama is always there in Singhala Prakrit and it is still in common Singhalese parlance meaning a union ,a group or Buddhist clergy as an establishment.So these Sanghama stories seems to be translation of poor quality from Singhalese Ela literature in which even Theravada Artha Katha were written first around 2nd century B.C.A later Singhalese king got translated those Buddhist works into Pali[Magadhi] and destroyed their originals in %th century as he prefered Magadhi.
  So it is clear most of Sanghama were in Ela Singhalese earlier and got translated into Tamil as that language developed around 12th century.But as a thief's work is always with errors,those who robbed anscient Singhalese work did not change the heading of this literary works the name Sanghama.
  
  
• From: gauthama (@ ) on: Mon Mar 8 18:17:08
  
  Tamil is one of the oldest living language in the world,sinhala learned from Tamils.
  
  
• From: mannang katty (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Tue Mar 9 10:08:11 EST 2004
  
  Tamil Nadu had more invasions and different rulers than Sri lanka.
  
  Further Pallava rule created the common civilization in S/India as well as in Sri Lanka.
  
  South Indian History tellers always look British to get informations about them. This is a pathetic situation. Sinhalese too are the victims of British rule of devide & rule.
  
  Parana Vitana made a mockery to the tomb of king Elara who was believed as a TAMIl by many Sinhalese. But Elara was Hela King and not Tamil.
  His name clearly shows his origins of Hela.
  
  Further, present day politics create many jokes in history.
  
  Tamil and Sinhala were born from the same ancestor HELA.
  
  Tampa Panni and Tamira Bharani are the main points of origins of Tamil and Sinhala. Both these words are of same meaning. Tampa Panni is PALI and Tamira Bharani is SANSKRIT.
  
  Sri Lanka Hela became Sinhala and Tamira Hela became Tamil.
  
  Pallavas had the lion flag at start and later their flag became a Bull. Sinhalese are still have the lion flag.(Sinha Bahu story is a real myth)
  
  Tamils have many flags and confused.
  
  Pallavs who came from the remnants of the Magadha empire of Ashoka. Tamils and Sinhalese are at their hornes without knowing or accepting common historical facts.
  
  MUDALIS are common people live among Tamils and Sinhalese because they are the decendants of Pallavas.
  
  MUDALI is a direct GRANTHA translation of Pallava(PALI)
  
  Grantha is a mix of PALI, SANSKRIT & TAMIL.
  
  Lambakannas of Sri Lankan Royals were part of Pallavas.
  
  Evidence of Mana Vamma(Varma) is an ample proof for this relationship.
  
  Mahavansa has no evidence of any North Indian arrivals since Prince Vijaya.
  
  Pallava Kingdom was extended upto Cambodia. Ankor Vishnu temple is a witness.
  
  
  
• From: Curtis Star (@ 82-44-203-22.cable.ubr08.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) on: Mon Aug 2 07:42:00
  
  To all you uneducated Sinhala folks!
  
  Firstly, the findings of early prakrit inscriptions found in Anuradhapura confirms the prescence of proto-dravidian Tamils who have long occupied the Island prior to the colonization of the North Indian monkeys ..oops sorry Singhala people who came into ceylon at a much later date. Tamils have occupied the Island prior to the times of the Ramayana. King Ravana himself was a Tamil!
  You Bengali immigrants need to stop re writing history... And get it into your Monkey heads - There is no Singhala! Singhala are all Malabars anyway. Your genes go back to the South Indian Malabars (Malayalai people). Only a handful of you are truly North Indian!
  
  Mr Star
  
  
• From: Haran (@ c211-28-144-78.thoms1.vic.optusnet.com.au) on: Wed Aug 18 02:23:09
  
  Hey guys,
  Stop arguing and just get educated. I'm not here to talk about who came first or anything, but since you all talking that topic I think I've got to share this with you all.
  I didn't like that someone was writing here that Tamil is from Sinhala or some sh!t... We are one of the Ancient civilized people... Check out Mohanjadaro & Harappa civilization... Archiologists believe that those people were Dravidians...
  
  and RECENTLY THERE WAS A PROOF BEEN FOUND OUT THAT, THERE WAS TAMILS IN VANNI AREA (3000+ years ago) THEY HAVE FOUND OUT SOME PROOF>> http://www.eelampage.com/index.shtml?id=200306231847310483&in=rare
  
  and there is another site: http://www.eelampage.com/index.shtml?id=200306071929560278&in=rare
  
  Check those sites if you are interested... but unfortunately these sites are in Tamil though.
  
  and stop making up some bullSh!t stories and tryig to change the history...
  
  Cheers
  
  Haran
  
  

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