Topic started by Joel D'Souza (@ 202.9.188.245) on Sun Aug 5 02:42:20 .
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Why do some people hate Brahmins? It could be because of one or two incidents happened long time back and blown up so big. But nowadays most of the Brahmins have left Tamil Nadu and settled elsewhere. Still should that hatred exist with us? Now most people know that Brahmins are the ones with helping mentality towards others.

How about the other castes which exist in Tamil Nadu? Instead of analyzing about Brahmins, I wish to analyze the Christian Nadars (who are supposed to be a forward caste by all means). These people exist throughout TamilNadu. But originally they are from Tirunelveli, Kanya kumari, Tuticorin, Ramnad and Trivandrum districts.

Just like the Brahmin bashers talk about Brahminism I talk about Christian Nadarism. When you look at the Christian population in the aforementioned districts you will note that the Christian Nadars are not a majority community in these places. They may account for only 30 to 40 percent of the Christian population there. But they play various tricks by which, they try to capture almost 100% of all the resources and opportunities of the Christian Churches there. Take for example the Technical Institutions owned by the catholic Church and the CSI in KK district. 90% of the staff and students in these institutions are Nadars only. You can't see other people there. But as I told earlier the actual Nadar population is only 30 to 40%.

How this is happening? There comes the game plan of Nadars. They catch hold of the highest authoritative positions by hook or crook and try to dominate others. The worst affected communities because of these games now want to leave Christianity due to this sort of prejudice of the Church.

These Nadars who always want to enjoy the reservation system of the government, will tend to act like higher caste people when the so called other minority christian community people are there. As an example if a person from Fernando community and a Nadar go to a hotel for lunch, the Nadar will forget about all of his history and will try to act as though he is a pure vegetarian (only for that instant only. afterwards he will eat non veg in other places). This is just one sample. Like this there are many others.

So my conclusion is Brahmins are far better than some of these other backward castes (which are actually forward castes)

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• From: davie (@ dell166a.utep.edu) on: Thu Dec 23 14:49:06 EST 2004
  
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  Why don't we all stop this mindless bashing in
  this forum.
  
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  dats what im trying to do :(
  
  
• From: anand (@ illchn-static-203.199.245.1.vsnl.net.in) on: Fri Dec 24 00:57:50 EST 2004
  
  Davie,
  Trying to do what? Encourage brahmin bashing.
  
  Davie & others of your ilk (acharya, tamilan, paghutharivalan)- wonder what U have to say to Bhasmasur's comments.
  
  Speechless?
  
  
• From: davie (@ vgtblt) on: Fri Dec 24 01:00:52 EST 2004
  
  he is one more cosmopolitan like tony. hehe
  ignore that local dumb bitch
  
  
• From: davie (@ rock-9149tikpam) on: Sun Dec 26 17:56:20 EST 2004
  
  //
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  11) They all use words to define themselves which have been used by their hate objects: socialism popularised by Marx, a jewish intellectual, ‘dravidam’ used by Sanskrit linguists to locate south India, and ‘Hindu’ coined by Persian-Arabs to identify the inhabitants of what is now south Asia.
  
  I am a dalit from South Arcot district and we too read history. For us, Dravida Maya is as pernicious as Arya Maya. Our community in Tamil Nadu has not suffered at the hands of German Nazis or hindutva people, but have suffered much from these dravidian parties (DMK, ADMK, MDMK, PMK) who used us to marginalise brahmins, but treat us as dung. The four major castes, nadars (Christian and Hindu), thevars, vanniars and gounders all belong to these dravidian parties and we are oppressed by them. Our struggle continues.
  
  K Shanmuganathan
  Annamalainagar//
  
  neya savuriya ill nan vunodaya naaka aruthu, saivadikatuma?
  
  
• From: tamilan (@ illchn-static-203.199.196.228.vsnl.net.in) on: Mon Dec 27 05:34:50 EST 2004
  
  Dalits the name they copied from north india, are really a blot on tamil community. They love brahmins and brahmins love them as well. They are used by brahmins to indulge in violence against the BCs. Dalits have no respect or love for BCs and they expect the BCs to respect them. They should learn to respect the majority people and stop the confrontations and belive me the BCs of tamil nadu is not so heartless like telugus and other north Indian BCs.
  So Dr. Shanmugam just change your mindset and I have good dalit friends. But not everyone are like my friends. Be proud to call yourself a TAMIL and never lower our tamil pride.
  
  
• From: tony (@ user-1120t46.dsl.mindspring.com) on: Mon Dec 27 09:38:43 EST 2004
  
  Draavidianiusm also means hatred for dalits. The core od dravidian philosophy is HATRED. that includes dalits.If anyone needs rejervassun the dalits do as for generations they have suffered. However the BC's and converts hate them and would want to take all the goodies themselves . The dalits have beains and are moving into mainstream while BCs are brainless and will remain with rejervassun. That is the real threat.
  
  
• From: tamilan (@ illchn-static-203.199.196.228.vsnl.net.in) on: Mon Dec 27 10:14:38 EST 2004
  
  What a friend we have in tony (for dalits) Your love for dalits are nothing more than to add fuel to the fire or to ignite their mind against BCs
  
  
• From: tony (@ user-1120t46.dsl.mindspring.com) on: Mon Dec 27 11:48:29 EST 2004
  
  Dr.Tamilian:
  Truth hurts. B.Cs have been taking advantage of rejervassuns but they are still discriminating against Dalits. Most NGOs helping Dalit organizations tell you that the real opposition they get is from the bc's in villages. If you know how to read please see the internet . Staements made by Dalit leaders attest to that. As far as Dravidianiasm. It was founded on hatred and has not changed.Being a moron you may not understand.
  
  
• From: savie (@ cim-dell10.cim.utep.edu) on: Mon Dec 27 12:37:09 EST 2004
  
  tony makes sense.
  if a dalith becomes equal to a brahmin then these daliths will crush the brahmins.
  The same applies for other backward dravidians too.
  varnashram makes sense.
  
  In biology we call these stuff as some ecological balance. The concept is somewhat similar even for humans.
  Everyone should remain in their own level/ status ladder.
  For the past half a million years we have been killiing each other and each had their own level of stautus/cadre.
  So, varnashram makes sense.
  Infact we had an instance of this dalith mmc, who just messed up things.
  varnashram makes sense
  
  
  
• From: davie (@ cim-dell10.cim.utep.edu) on: Mon Dec 27 12:46:28 EST 2004
  
  all the pest in srilanka should die
  
  
• From: davie (@ ecc-24.ecc.utep.edu) on: Mon Dec 27 12:58:36 EST 2004
  
  infact they are dying by earthquake and also by terrorism
  
  
• From: tamilan (@ illchn-static-203.199.196.228.vsnl.net.in) on: Tue Dec 28 04:59:19 EST 2004
  
  Hi Tony are you trying to say the miseries of dalits are making of BCs. Then you are out of your mind, You don't know about dalits and let me brief you, They are always in groups and cause of violence and so most of the employers dont employ them. They are cultureless, suppose they make a 100 bucks and 90% of it will be spend on liquer and 10 Rs. to manage household. But the dalit women are real sufferers. The woman are good and the men are very luxurious fellows. Where is the question of dalits improving, infact the dalits gets the most out of employment and all the grants. Still they could not improve the lifestyle means their mind set has to be changed. To add fuel to their ignorance you brahmin people teach them as if all their chances of survival is robbed by BCs. Stop this non sense of reservation bulshit and BCs are hard working what ever you see on earth is by their hard work. Because they are the backbone of the society.
  
  
• From: asdf (@ cache-dtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Dec 28 05:15:00 EST 2004
  
  Lol India should annhilate all jokers who threaten it's soverginity and unity.. lol and India will do just that soon lol.
  
  
• From: AASDFFdfhgssdf (@ cache-dtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Dec 28 05:15:27 EST 2004
  
  Lol India should annhilate all jokers who threaten it's soverginity and unity.. lol and India will do just that soon lol.
  
  
• From: adsfasdfas (@ cache-dtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Dec 28 05:20:48 EST 2004
  
  wheeeheheheeeeeeeee
  
  
• From: adfafdada (@ cache-dtc-ad01.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Dec 28 05:53:17 EST 2004
  
  friends I do confess one thing..whenever I feel bored and need some jokes i come to this forum. basically this forum is my bit'ch ..hehehhe lol.sorry and all that though..but ur all my bit'ches lol.
  
  
• From: Nanethan (@ 68.domain.tld) on: Tue Dec 28 16:31:27 EST 2004
  
  The dalits are good, they are just being misused by these bastar-d chrisian missionaries, and homo fuks like DMK for converts, and politics!! The dalits in my opinion are good. There is in fact a organization that is called, Dalit Hindu Makkal Kazhagam. So not all dalits are bad, just the ones that are misguided by these basta-rds. (Christians from Europe, and Local politicians.)
  
  
• From: davie (@ d-128-193-107.bootp.virginia.edu) on: Wed Jan 5 19:29:50 EST 2005
  
  so whats ur point nanethan
  
  
• From: nan illa (@ d-128-193-107.bootp.virginia.edu) on: Wed Jan 5 19:32:56 EST 2005
  
  not only dalits but also people like brahmins get converted to christianity coz its a nice religion.
  but dalits have gained popularity.
  
  
• From: tony (@ user-112106p.dsl.mindspring.com) on: Wed Jan 5 23:48:07 EST 2005
  
  Dr.asdf: This forum should be reseved for backwards. There are too many forwards who write here. They should be proscribed from taking part in the forum. They (forwards) do not know anything that is important in life like ,tamil ninja,Silluku,satyaraj,radhika and senthil and read useless trash like history,economics and sciences.That is the reason we do not understand them
  
  
• From: hehe (@ d-128-193-143.bootp.virginia.edu) on: Thu Jan 6 12:39:07 EST 2005
  
  jayendra swamigal is a PP (pombala poruccci)
  saibaba is a homo (gAy)
  
  
• From: shurdras_are_tevdia_pasangals (@ ce31.macau.ctm.net) on: Fri Jan 7 11:19:13 EST 2005
  
  every brahmin hating ba$tard should read this
  and die out of shame
  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1535&e=3&u=/afp/20050107/wl_sthasia_afp/asiaquakeindiauntouchables
  
  
• From: Liji (@ 68-173-193-72.nyc.rr.com) on: Sun Jan 9 04:47:52 EST 2005
  
  http://www.believers.org/believe/bel147.htm
  
  and go to believe papers and navigate.
  
  
• From: davie (@ www.centerforappliedbiomechanics.org) on: Fri Jan 14 12:34:04 EST 2005
  
  why u guys think of "Poli samiyar". call him one of the samiyars. the reason is all samiyars, religons, gods and etc are fake.
  
  
• From: davie (@ www.centerforappliedbiomechanics.org) on: Fri Jan 14 12:35:08 EST 2005
  
  intham mathiri boli samiyargal irukarathuvarai kadaoul pakthi ellorukkum keali ..yathan therioum ithukku..sariyana...sattam..namma nattula illathathala..sami pera solli...ithumathiri ...innum ayiramper vantha vannamathan...iruppanga sattatha..kadumai..aakathavarai..poli..samiyar..gal..varukai thadai.padapovathillai
  
  
• From: davie (@ www.centerforappliedbiomechanics.org) on: Fri Jan 14 12:35:32 EST 2005
  
  all brahmins are fraudulent
  
  
• From: davie (@ www.centerforappliedbiomechanics.org) on: Fri Jan 14 12:36:01 EST 2005
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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