Topic started by Sanjeevan (@ 202.155.174.5) on Wed Nov 13 06:11:02 .
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. . . Are they really the same people or is it that they just speak the same language?

Are Telugus closer to Indian Tamils than Sri Lankan Tamils are?

Are we all really Dravidian?

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• From: Karuvayan (@ cs6668103-167.austin.rr.com) on: Thu Jan 9 02:03:25
  
  //The website you provided has defeated your own argument.//
  
  If you read the related news you would be able to read better. It is true that a certain wave of hominoids evolved from Africa. This African population mingled with other indigenous population.
  
  Given that there is proof that there was a species distinctly different from the African hominoids in the Indian subcontinent, it is very reasonable to know and understand that all humans did not evolve out of Africa.
  
  I am waiting for results of the genetic tests undertaken by the two Indian scientists. I know that there is ample credibility to the theory that there was a species distinct from the African hominoids who came to india from the western coast more an a million years ago.
  
  
• From: Karuvayan (@ cs6668103-167.austin.rr.com) on: Thu Jan 9 02:15:49
  
  //I am a vellala //
  
  So was Nammazhwar who is the kula pathi for Iyengar Brahmins. He is my role model. I am vellala too.
  
  ThiruppAn Alwar was a pAnAr. He is one of the most revered Vaishnava Alwars. Scores of NayanmArgal are not brahmins. Yet they continue to be the source of divine inspiration for all hindus.
  
  Now, let the vatican church appoint a dalit christian as the pope. That day I will shave my head.
  
  
• From: kotiya paiyan (@ adsl-64-170-114-95.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) on: Fri Jan 10 20:23:20
  
  Dear Uncle AJ,
  
  For the reading pleasure of Hubbers, I shall requote Uncle AJ's proud statements about casteism, just barely a few days ago:
  
  "getting too close to pork eating, karuvadu( dry fish) offering (to buddha) Sinhalese is frowned upon by the upper caste Tamils in Jaffna."
  
  But now he's backtreading!!! "I think the animosity with the Sinhalese and Jaffna Tamils got nothing to do with the caste"
  
  Uncle AJ has to come to a decision whether he supports casteism or not. I personally see nothing wrong with caste discrimination and untouchability, and I really hope Uncle AJ will come around.
  
  "You are envy and jealous of the achievements of Jaffna Tamils in various fileds."
  
  Uncle AJ is entirely correct. All terrorists everywhere are envious of the LTTE record of 162 suicide bombings in addition to Eelam accomplishments in the fields of recruiting child-soldiers, drug-trafficking, and extortion. How can I not be jealous of these Eelam achievments?
  
  "Just like you are a KGB (Kandyan Govigama Budhist)"
  
  Dear Uncle AJ does not know that my family is not from Kandy. My mother is from the south and my father is from a small village near Kegalle. I am not a proud stuck-up aristocratic Kandyan like Aunty Chandrika although if I were Uncle AJ I would praise her contributions towards the success of Tamil Eelam instead of writing hateful things about her.
  
  "I don't think I have to prove you about having Sinhala Friends."
  
  No need to prove anything. Uncle AJ once saw a picture of some Sinhalese villagers who had been hacked apart by LTTE freedom fighters in Gonagala. He was so overjoyed after seeing that picture that he declared that any Sinhalese who were so willing to be killed so easily by Eelam heroes deserve to be his friends. I know all about Uncle AJ's feelings of friendship. I too believe that Sinhalese should just be killed and should not put up a fight but Uncle AJ still does not consider me a friend.
  
  
• From: kotiya paiyan (@ ac95fa90.ipt.aol.com) on: Mon Jan 13 01:12:41
  
  Clearly Uncle AJ has approved of my most recent post and that is why he feels there is no need to add to my description of his sentiments. I only wish he would acknowledge the Erumai as the National Leader and SOLE representatives of all Tamils everywhere.
  
  
• From: AJ (@ qc-mon-pel-ap3-07-14.look.ca) on: Mon Jan 13 21:46:25
  
  Nisala Aiye!
  
  Mama oyAtta katthakarannE mE karathara navattuvath wittharaI LTTE.
  
  
  
• From: kotiya paiyan (@ aca8ed4e.ipt.aol.com) on: Tue Jan 14 16:26:11
  
  Dear Uncle AJ,
  
  Please do not write to me in Sinhala. That is not the language of Tamil Eelam. The language of Tamil Eelam is Eelamese. Don't you know anything?
  
  I was very disappointed with your recent post. Too short, not enough praises for the National Leader or for suicide-bombing.
  
  You are not bothering me with your talk about the LTTE. I wish you would shower more praises but I do not hear them. In fact, I find your evasions of the Truth of Eelamism to be 'karathara'/kashtam. Please give more credit to the National Leader, Rt. Hon. Pii thottikaran instead of taking the credit for yourself.
  
  
• From: Ceyloni@UK (@ webport-cl4-cache5.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Mon Jan 27 05:55:27
  
  Question posed_
  
  ''Are they really the same people or is it that they just speak the same language?''
  
  ''Are Telugus closer to Indian Tamils than Sri Lankan Tamils are?''
  ''Are we all really Dravidian?''
  
  Answer Visit
  
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/genes/
  
  There was a Historical series on BBC called Blood of the Vikings. The series showed a University of London Geneticist showing where Vikings settled in large concentrations in the UK, by genetic studies.
  
  WE need to to a similar Study in the subcontinent to look at population flows. We could see how closely related are the Dravidians to each other, to North Indians etc.
  
  Population flows are part of the picture, but this study is to look at the history only and not part of any political or Racial agenda. We are all Human beings.
  
  A genetic study would help unravel the history of where a group of people moved to or intermarried into.
  
  
  APPENDIX 1
  
  ''Genetics and genes make regular headlines in the realms of medicine and agriculture but less well known is their influence on archaeology and history.
  Mummified remains from Peru ©
  
  
  For example, when archaeologists discover relics of a distant culture in unusual places, it prompts the question: did the people of that culture travel there or was it just the artefacts which made their way across the world, perhaps through trade or as loot seized during battle?
  
  Explaining cultural changes in a group of people can also be problematic because it is impossible to know if the change resulted from a movement of people or merely a movement of ideas. Whilst archaeology can provide some of the answers by unearthing evidence of changes in material culture, only genetics can complete the picture telling us whether cultural transitions were accompanied by changes in the blood of the people.
  
  
  Jim Wilson
  Jim Wilson is a research fellow in population genetics in the Department of Biology at University College London. He has published recently on the genetic history of the British Isles; on the effect of a population's demographic history on its usefulness for disease gene mapping; and on the population genetic structuring of drug metabolising enzyme variants.''
  
  
  

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