Why do not we celebrate Tamil New Year Day
Topic started by shiva (@ webcache.bng.vsnl.net.in) on Fri Apr 6 00:47:28 .
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Why we are giving more importance to English New Year Day. Let us celebrate Tamil New Year Day in a grand manner
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- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Fri Apr 30 15:04:32 EDT 2004
mannangkatty..I cry for your foolishments!
- From: mannanng katty (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Mon May 3 03:44:53 EDT 2004
Hahahah
You try to fool others after reading shiiits from DMK propaganda.
You tell manything from the books written by Non-Tamils and Non-Hindus!
How much you get from POPE for crying against HINDU TAMILS?
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Tue May 4 12:07:51 EDT 2004
From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62) on: Fri Apr 30 15:04:32 EDT 2004
mannangkatty..I cry for your foolishments!
...I'm crying for your foolishments even now.
- From: tamil (@ bu-wcs1-kelly.nipr.mil)
on: Tue May 4 19:26:38 EDT 2004
tamils are low category people , have no class or any living standard!!
pathetic as$ho-les
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Wed May 5 10:19:15 EDT 2004
hehe if Thamizhans are low category people then I don't know how I could call other communities..oh wait..you are part of the non-Thamizh anti-Thamizh racist organization of such like RSS..wow if you guys are the high level people..I think we should change the meanings of low and high!
- From: mannanng katty (@ toronto-ppp272352.sympatico.ca)
on: Fri May 7 05:22:39 EDT 2004
POPE's coolies like you are LOW always because you bark against majority Tamil speakers always!
- From: Harish kumar (@ 203.101.39.53)
on: Sat May 8 14:35:08 EDT 2004
bope coolies, shangarcharya goolies, tamil goolies, singali goolies, LTTE goolies, afteall every thamil speaking person is goolie, koolie. Tamil is coolie goolie
- From: Gogiya (@ kyle21.mmm.com)
on: Sat May 8 22:55:55 EDT 2004
You are the servant for the above mentioned people. How come you never realised that?
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Mon May 10 12:52:18 EDT 2004
Harish Kumar is having nightmares and daymares of Thamizh rule in Thamizh Nadu and in Thamizheezham...as you can see he is blabbering..and later on when he wake up (which happen once in a while) he'll say he didn't post the above statements..he is a funny guy isn't he?
- From: mannanng katty (@ toronto-ppp272361.sympatico.ca)
on: Tue May 11 02:52:20 EDT 2004
Eelam is now in the toilet of Ranil Wickramasinghe !
Now your LTTE is begging for food and lodging from UNP Sinhalese.
Your Pungudutheevu & other theevus are safe at the hands of Sinhala Army and Douglas Devananda.
So, bark as a dog for ever.
- From: CBK PuN'daikuL irukirai nee (@ pd9e3410e.dip.t-dialin.net)
on: Tue May 11 05:49:56 EDT 2004
Buddham Saranam Kachchamy
CBK PuN'daikuL irukirai nee
Karuna Ch'unniyai cuupirai nee
Buddharin Mukkaal ch'unniyum nee!
"Your Pungudutheevu & other theevus are safe at the hands of Sinhala Army and Douglas Devananda. "
For how long ?
They are already on the Run
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Tue May 11 11:45:01 EDT 2004
Mannangkatty should be crowned as the Singhalese Fool and then he'll be satisifed and stop his babbling about his future dream of having a nice 'Toilet' and a bathe towel and a pair of sandels and a lipstick and a makeup set.
- From: Fuck The RSS (@ pd95122dd.dip.t-dialin.net)
on: Tue May 11 13:01:29 EDT 2004
"future dream of having a nice 'Toilet' and a bathe towel and a pair of sandels and a lipstick and a makeup set"
Nedu this a Mega Sixer! What a lovely shot! Chapeau, friend!
well, not to forget the lady-bind!
Now we have two LOLAs, One Mannanng Kundi, the other tony azggan.
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Thu May 13 13:40:44 EDT 2004
Thank you Thank you...merci lol
nanRi
Oh and I didn't mean to hit a megasixer..
hey RSS you think you could stop improper terms man...look bad on you man.
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Thu May 13 13:43:13 EDT 2004
I'm sorry for calling you as RSS...I didn't want to quote in the improper term bro. You see this forum get read by non-Thamizhans..so we shouldn't make any bad impressions like 'mannagkatty' and lower our level to his...I think we could use lot of sarcasm as far as I know you are good at it.:D
nanRi
- From: mannanng katty (@ toronto-ppp272388.sympatico.ca)
on: Thu May 13 16:29:16 EDT 2004
Theevu dogs are real dogs...
Barking for few dollars...
How many of you are the sons of Buddhist monk of Nainatheevu?
I hope Nedunchezhiyan is one.. I know what is your level... so, dont fart too much ..
- From: RC (@ pd9ff8369.dip.t-dialin.net)
on: Fri May 14 01:29:30 EDT 2004
Hi Nedu,
that was indeed a great sixer!
Regarding 'Mannanng Katty', I thought I use his vocabulary to ease him to understand the sarcasms but even that seems to be too tough! He seems to be the one and only "real Thamizhan". Drinking Tamil tea and coffee, eating Tamil french fries and Tamil pizza, living in Tamil Canada, wearing Tamil shirt and trousers and cow leather shoes, traveling in Tamil Vechicles (not Bullcarts), talking Tamil Tamil, writing Tamil Tamil, using Tamil Internet, computer and keyboard, worshiping Tamil deities, ...
The list is too long for our Tamil POPE!
You can call me anything because I am a theevu dog, son of sakkili coolie church brother and the Tamil Tamilans list is too long :-)
Regards,
RC
PS- I don't have to fukk the RSS anymore, our fellow Indians have prooved it. And our Tamil Sonia POPE is leading the Tamil Congress :-)
But Our other LOLA 'tony kavaddukuL iruppan' should get a little bit of my Tamil Tamil. Just for a short while, ok? :-)
- From: RC (@ pd9ff8369.dip.t-dialin.net)
on: Fri May 14 01:38:34 EDT 2004
I hope... I know what... Mannanng Katty!
Thiivilum iruppan thurumbilum iruppan!
We will bark even if we get few ruppees only! So beware of us dogs, Master Tamil! Don't worry, we will bring you back Kachchatheevu too, beside Nainatheevu, palaitheevu and all other theevus with Eezham to our Thayaham! Until then you hoist the Tamil Tamilflag daily!
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Fri May 14 13:00:09 EDT 2004
Mannangkatty the master of Sighala Urumaya..go to Tony Brahmin University and learn things like Earth is flat...and that Brahmins are the best civilized people for looting others specially Thamizhans.
- From: mannanng katty (@ toronto-ppp272313.sympatico.ca)
on: Sun May 16 00:11:00 EDT 2004
hahahahahahahahah
Hoooooooooooooooooo
Loku Bandara give you EEEEEEEELAM...
You will hoist your Kovanam in Pungudutheevu as your Flag!
Nainatheevu Sinhala Bhikku is good guy because you guys are here with some BRAINS from his GENES!
Nice!
- From: R.Sri Hari (@ modem6.bayrac3.eureka.lk)
on: Mon Jan 24 14:53:45
(1)THE HINDU ASTRONOMICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TAMIL NEW YEAR
The Earth travels in an eliptical path around the Sun through 360
degrees (Paakai in Tamil), and the time period for one such complete
travel around the Sun (Suriyan in Tamil) is called an Year (Aandu in
Tamil).
The circumferance of the eliptical path traced by the Earth (Ulaham
in Tamil) having the Sun as the central point - are divided into
twelve arcs, and the angular segments traced by each arc measuring 30
degress is called a House (Veedu in Tamil or Rasi in Sanskrit). Thus
the earth passes through twelve Houses in an year.
In actual fact, it is the Earth which enters each Houses at any given
time. But for us who live on the Earth it appears as if the Sun is
moving (relative Motion), and we very loosely say that the Sun
travels through the twelve Houses.
The twelve Houses are named as,
(1) Meda Veedu or Rasi
(2) Idapa Veedu or Rasi
(3) Mithuna Veedu or Rasi
(4) Kataka Veedu or Rasi
(5) Singa Veedu or Rasi
(6) Kanni Veedu or Rasi
(7) Thula Veedu or Rasi
(8) Virutchika Veedu or Rasi
(9) Thanu Veedu or Rasi
(10) Kumba Veedu or Rasi
(11) Makara Veedu or Rasi
(12) Meena Veedu or Rasi
The Earth moving in to Meda Veedu or Rasi, is taken as the starting
point of it's next complete cycle in an eliptical path around the
Sun.
The period of travel of the Earth in each Veedu or Rasi is known as a
Thingal - a Month (also known as Matham in Tamil and Masa in
Sanskrit). Hence for the earth to travel through the twelve Veedus or
Rasis, it takes twelve Thingals to complete one cycle, which is known
as an Aandu - a Year (also known as Varudam in Tamil and Varusha in
Sanskrit).
The time the Sun enters the Meda Veedu or Rasi is taken as the
starting point of the New Year (Puthiya Aandu Pirappu or Varusha
Pirappu), and this starting month is called as the Chithirai Thingal
or Matham.
The one who calculates the astronomical settings and movements of the
Earth, Sun, and other Planets in respect of the 12 Veedus or Rasis
are known as the Jothidar (Saaththriyaar - in Jaffna). But in ancient
times in Tamil Nadu they were known as the Kaalak Kanithar.
(2) THE TAMIL SEASONAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TAMIL NEW YEAR
The Tamils have divided an Aandu in to six seasons based on the
climatic conditions in Tamil Nadu. They are namely the,
Ilavenil Kaalam : mild sunny period : Chithirai, Vahasi - Thingal
: mid April to mid June
Muthuvenil Kaalam : intense sunny period : Aani, Aadi - Thingal
: mid June to mid August
Kaar Kaalam : cloudy rainy Period : Aavani, Purataasi - Thingal
: mid August to mid October
Kuthir Kaalam - cold period : Iyppassi, Kaarthihai - Thingal
: mid October to mid December
Munpani Kaalam - early misty period (evening dew): Maarkali, Thai -
Thingal
: mid December to mid February
Pinpani Kaalam - late misty period (morning dew): Maasi, Panguni -
Thingal
: mid February to mid April
The beginning of the Ilavenil Kaalam of the Tamils coincides with the
beginning of the Sun moving into the Meda Veedu or Rasi, which falls
in mid April, and is the time of commencement of the Tamil month of
Chitirai.
The dawn of the month of Chithirai is the dawn of the Ilavenil
Kaalam, a period of mild sun with much light and less humid wind
known to be very soothing and refreshing and was known as Thentral
Kaatru to Tamils.
This might be the very reason the Tamil Saiva Saint of Tamil Nadu
namely the Thirunaavukkarsu Nayanaar of the mid seventh century,
equated the pleasure of being at the feet of the God Siva which is as
good as the extended Ilavenil Kaalam, showing the great delight the
Tamils had during the Ilavenil Kaalam.
"Maasil veenaiyum maalai mathiyamum
veesu thentralum veengu Ilavenilum
moosu vandari poikaiyum pontrathe
Eesan enthai inai adi nilale"
So the Tamils selected the dawn of this Ilavenil Kaalam as the dawn
of the Tamil New Year.
(3)THE TAMIL (OR HINDU ???) CYCLIC SYSTEM OF YEARS
The Tamils also considered an average life cycle of a human-being as
60 years, and reckoned a "Cyclic System of Years" based on
same
provided with different names for each year falling within this
cycle. The Year Cycle repeats itself in every 60 years. The names of
the sixty years of this cycle are as follows.
(1) Pirapava Aandu
(2) Vipava Aandu
(3) Sukla Aandu
(4) Piramothuutha Aandu
(5) Pirasotpaththi Aandu
(6) Aangeerasa Aandu
(7) Srimuha Aandu
(8) Pava Aandu
(9) Yuva Aandu
(10) Thaathu Aandu
(11) Eeswara Aandu
(12) Vehuthaaniya Aandu
(13) Piramaathi Aandu
(14) Vikrama Aandu
(15) Visha Aandu
(16) Chitirabaanu Aandu
(17) Subaanu Aandu
(18) Thaarana Andu
(19) Paarththipa Aandu
(20) Viya Aandu
(21) Sarvasiththu Aandu
(22) Sarvathaari Aandu
(23) Virothi Aandu
(24) Vikruthi Aandu
(25) Kara Aandu
(26) Nanthana Aandu
(27) Vijaya Aandu
(28) Jaya Aandu
(29) Manmatha Aandu
(30) Thunmuki Aandu
(31) Hovilambi Aandu
(32) Vilambi Aandu
(33) Vikaari Aandu
(34) Saarvari Aandu
(35) Pilava Aandu
(36) Subakiruthu Aandu
(37) Sobakiruthu Aandu
(38) Kurothi Aandu
(39) Visuvaasuva Aandu
(40) Paraapava Aandu
(41) Pilavanga Aandu
(42) Keelaka Aandu
(43) Soumiya Aandu
(44) Saathaarana Aandu
(45) Virothikiruthu Aandu
(46) Parithaapi Aandu
(47) Piramaatheesa Aandu
(48) Aanantha Aandu
(49) Raatchasa Aandu
(50) Nala Aandu
(51) Pingala Aandu
(52) Kaalayukthi Aandu
(53) Siththaarththi Aandu
(54) Rouththri Aandu
(55) Thunmathi Aandu
(56) Thunththupi Aandu
(57) Ruthrothkaari Aandu
(58) Rakthaatchi Aandu
(59) Kurothana Aandu
(60) Atsaya Aandu
According to the above Cyclic System of Years, the Tamil New Year
the "Thaarana Aandu" dawns on the first day of the
Chiththirai
Thingal, which is the 13th of April 2004.
Constructive Comments on same are welcome, as some claim it is a
Hindu New Year and the Tamil New year actually falls on the 14th of
January with the dawn of the Tamil month of Thai.
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- From: Rajendhra Cholan! (@ bi01p1.nc.us.ibm.com)
on: Tue Jan 25 18:18:17 EST 2005
Excellent and most valuble piece of information.
Thanks, Mr Srihari
Rajendhra Cholan!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thamizhsamraajyam
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- From: R.Sri Hari (@ modem9.bank1.eureka.lk)
on: Tue Jan 25 21:03:18 EST 2005
Rajendra Cholan Avarkale,
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