Topic started by ARUN BABU (@ 203-213-62-228-syd-ts10-2600.tpgi.com.au) on Fri Jun 27 00:31:18 .
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HEY ppl Why cant India be a Hindu country since the majority of ppl are Hindus. In Countries with Large number of Muslims , its always a muslims country , similarly i believe India should be a Hindu country with Hindu laws followed by all the ppl living in India or HINDUSTAN !

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• From: ramesh (@ dialpool-210-214-30-193.maa.sify.net) on: Wed Nov 10 09:05:47 EST 2004
  
  hai you nevr knows about yre grand papa
  but one thing clear cast & cread Aryan & Dravida
  or christen & musleam all are
  steel, beg,borow,.... culture
  they got ther self style
  this made man .........why fight
  
  
• From: NA SRINIVASAN (@ ppp76-22.dsl-chn.eth.net) on: Fri Nov 12 01:58:20 EST 2004
  
  THE PURPOSE OF HINDUISM AND ITS VEDAS IS NOT CLEANSING THE MIND OF MANKIND. BUT, SIMPLY CLEANSES THE BODY AND THE SOURROUNDINGS. WHAT WILL BE THE BENIIT IF WE MERELY PURIFY THE BODY AND THE HOME INSTEAD OF CLEANSING OUR IDEAS AND MIND.
  
  THOUGH BEING AN IYANGAR I FOUND THAT HINDUISM IS NOT MAN MAKING RELIGION IT WILL MAKE A MAN TO BARBARIAN LEVEL.
  
  BASICALLY I AM A MARXIST, THE PREACHING OF CHRIST JESUS IS (PARTICULARLY MATTHEW 5) HELP FULL TO MAN KIDN TO LEAD A PEACEFULL LIVING.
  
  FOLLOWING CHRIST JESUS IS BETTER THAN FOLLOWING MARXISM.
  
  INDIA IS ALWAYS A HINDU COUNTRY. THERE IS NO PROTECTION FOR NON-HINDUS REGARDLESS WEATHER MUSLIM OR CHRISIAN.
  
  THE FORMER GOVERNMENT FOLLOWED THE IDEAS OF SRI. JAYENDRA SARASWATHI SWAMIGAL. WHAT HAPPENED TODAY (11.11.2004) HE IS ARRESSTED UNDER MURDER CASE.
  
  SEE HOW BRUTAL HE IS, KILLED AND INNOCENT & HONEST WORKER OF VARADHARAJA SWAMIGAL SANNDHI & SOILED THE TRUTH MERELY BECAUSE OF MONEY ISSUE.
  
  
• From: truth (@ dsl-chn-111.253.247.61.touchtelindia.net) on: Sat Nov 13 07:14:40 EST 2004
  
  Should India be a Hindu Country??
  
  No. Only North India and Brahmin of South.
  
  Rest r Asuras
  
  
• From: davie (@ e228-013.ecc.utep.edu) on: Thu Nov 18 06:21:33 EST 2004
  
  asuras is the name given by valmiki to demons (people with devilish character like ravana the khastria).
  Valmiki used to conflicts with kings (even south indian kings). So he wrote his story against somekings especially ravana.
  i wrote my brilliant posting that valmiki is biased before 6 months.
  The reason why i say valmiki is good in writing false stories is that, he wrote hanuman can fly.
  Can it be real???
  And this is yet another reason why i would like to question the construction of bridge between india and srilanka. I really suspect if those morons should have pelted stones in addition tothe already present natural projection of land
  
  
• From: davie (@ e228-013.ecc.utep.edu) on: Thu Nov 18 06:22:45 EST 2004
  
  also read my phenomenal posting regarding hindu religion.
  i have teared this issue apart into pieces
  
  
• From: truth (@ dsl-chn-111.253.247.61.touchtelindia.net) on: Fri Nov 19 04:26:29 EST 2004
  
  @davie
  Why cant u read ur own peoples story first and come to Hinduism, Ramayan and Mahabharath?
  U know Siddhas???
  U know they were Dravidians?
  U know they said "Ashtama Sidhi"
  The techniques of Hanuman r all described as Anima, Karima etc. U know that?
  Did u ask any of ur Dravidian Friends?
  If it can be true with Dravidian Siddhas, why cant Hanuman do it?
  If flying is myth, then call Siddhism a myth then come to us.
  U want a Christian proverb?
  "Than mudugil irukkum azhukkai mudali paar"
  Valmiki saw three kinds of Dravidians.
  1. Asura
  2. Muni
  3. Monkeys
  If u say writing about Hanuman is superstitious u r insulting Dravidians.
  If u still feel it is superstitious, then enlighten dravidians and not Aryans, Hindus, and Brahmins.
  
  
• From: davie (@ tandon-lpt) on: Fri Nov 19 06:03:15 EST 2004
  
  asuras is the name given by valmiki to demons (people with devilish character like ravana the khastria).
  Valmiki used to conflict with kings (even south indian kings). So he wrote his story against somekings especially ravana.
  i wrote my brilliant posting that valmiki is biased before 6 months.
  The reason why i say valmiki is good in writing false stories is that, he wrote hanuman can fly.
  Can it be real??? answer is no
  
  
  
  
  
• From: davie (@ tandon-lpt) on: Fri Nov 19 06:03:56 EST 2004
  
  DRAVIDIAN IS A TERM COINED BY SOME WESTERNERS/INDIAN REFORMISTS very recently (less than 500 years).
  Infact dravidian civilization was in pakistan and if u were present during that time, u will find the same kind of people in dravidian civilization.
  U certainly have to make ur mind more open to things rather than saying the same wrong information of others.
  
  BLACK OR BROWN BRAHMINS EXISTED IN INDIA EVEN BEFORE A 2000 YEARA BECAUSE BECOMING A BRAHMIN WAS NOT BASED ON COLOR.
  
  if u come to tamilnadu or go to some matrimonial website and and see the brahmins faces u will find that more than half of these brahmins look dark + uglier than other non brahmins. many are short and look like chinese, only very small fraction have good features.
  
  
  
• From: davie (@ tandon-lpt) on: Fri Nov 19 06:58:33 EST 2004
  
  the base logic is anyone who has evil characters is asura.
  here in this forum some who posts with name truth is non-humanitarian so he is asura.
  
  color does not decide what u become, example color of the person did not decide if he was a brahmin or khsatria or vaishyas or what ever.
  
  infact south indian gods (idols ) are black.
  
  
• From: davie (@ tandon-lpt) on: Fri Nov 19 06:59:16 EST 2004
  
  the base logic is anyone who has evil characters is asura.
  here in this forum some who posts with name truth is non-humanitarian so he is asura.
  
  color does not decide what u become, example color of the person did not decide if he was a brahmin or khsatria or vaishyas or what ever.
  
  infact south indian gods (idols ) are black.
  
  when important issues go to hands of people like valmiki only such kind of things will happen
  
  
• From: davie (@ tandon-lpt) on: Fri Nov 19 07:01:19 EST 2004
  
  the base logic is anyone who has evil characters is asura.
  here in this forum some who posts with name truth is non-humanitarian so he is asura.
  
  color does not decide what u become, example color of the person did not decide if he was a brahmin or khsatria or vaishyas or what ever.
  
  infact south indian gods (idols ) are black.
  it also confirms the fact that also dark people held brahmin positions
  
  when important issues go to hands of people like valmiki only such kind of things will happen
  
  
• From: davie (@ tandon-lpt) on: Fri Nov 19 07:01:29 EST 2004
  
  the base logic is anyone who has evil characters is asura.
  here in this forum some who posts with name truth is non-humanitarian so he is asura.
  
  color does not decide what u become, example color of the person did not decide if he was a brahmin or khsatria or vaishyas or what ever.
  
  infact south indian gods (idols ) are black.
  it also confirms the fact that also dark people held brahmin positions
  
  when important issues go to hands of people like valmiki only such kind of things will happen
  
  
• From: davie (@ tandon-lpt) on: Fri Nov 19 07:03:07 EST 2004
  
  
  the base logic is anyone who has evil characters is asura.
  here in this forum some who posts with name truth is non-humanitarian so he is asura.
  
  color does not decide what u become, example color of the person did not decide if he was a brahmin or khsatria or vaishyas or what ever.
  
  infact south indian gods (idols ) are black.
  it also confirms the fact that also dark people held brahmin positions and every one were equal and living in peace
  
  when important issues go to hands of people like valmiki only such kind of things will happen
  
  
• From: davie (@ tandon-lpt) on: Fri Nov 19 08:30:12 EST 2004
  
  Valmiki was good because, he wrote a story just opposing a king (ravana) and he used characters and gave them a hhuman form example he used vultures (jadayu), monkeys(hanuman), etc to portray that even everything in forest helped them. Ravana was a khshatria and rama was also one kshatria. Because monkey has the ability to go through different branches of tree (similar to flying) hanuman was said to be flying. hanuman and jadayu are raised to positions of gods because they were helping for a good cause.
  
  if india has to be a blessed country as in the ancient era, we have to eliminate all wrong and false facts that still shake us. Mahabharata is much superior and neat epic than ramayana where there is lot of indecent things discussed.
  
  
  And most importantly my anthopological view of this issue is much more powerful than ramayana itself.
  
  
  
• From: Johnzgren (@ 128.163.229.182) on: Tue Nov 23 13:27:42 EST 2004
  
  why should India follow the path of Muslim countries? Muslim countries that embrace Sharia law and so forth are moving backwards.
  
  Even a countries like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait with massive hydrocarbon reserves have not been able to create longterm success in areas such as long term economic growth (when they run out of oil and gas, who will care about them?) and social advances (look at how they treat women and religious minorities-Secular India treats its women and religious minorities better then places like Iran, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait).
  
  Also what about Sikhs, Jains and Buddhists. These religins originated in India as well. Should they be governed by their own laws as well?
  
  
• From: davie (@ ecclap15) on: Wed Nov 24 05:27:23 EST 2004
  
  buddhism and jainism originated in india coz buddha and mahavira did not like brahmins teachings and things like killing animals for sacrifices.
  nice to hearthat even thamizh people diverted to buddhism and jainism.
  
  
• From: davie (@ ecclap15) on: Wed Nov 24 05:30:17 EST 2004
  
  after buddha got enlightned he became more humanitarian (respecting all people), not following the concept called god etc.
  these are nice history
  
  
• From: guts (@ nw2pc31.stud.uni-stuttgart.de) on: Fri Nov 26 03:36:03 EST 2004
  
  well said Johnzgren!
  go see all european countries ,they are least bothered about religion and god still they could make very good progress in economy and development,i feel these people are emotionally free when compared to indians
  i dont understand why indians worry a lot about
  making India a hindu country.If they really want to do that then there wont be much difference betwwen india and pakistan.
  
  
• From: davie (@ ecclap15) on: Fri Nov 26 16:03:28 EST 2004
  
  how about this idea
  In ancient india anyone and everyone were allowed to become brahmins. So even the present day we should follow that tradition
  BRAHMINISM OR PREACHING OR DOIG PRAYERS MUST BE OPEN FOR ALL COMMONPEOPLE. WHO EVER KNOWS SANSKRIT OR WHO IS INTERESTED INDOING PRAYERS must be allowed TO BECOME A BRAHMIN PRIEST. atleast jobless people will get jobs
  
  I dont mind keeping some admission exams to become a temple poojari or to be a priest for mariages etc. the government can give salary.
  i mean we can make it similar to a government job
  
  
• From: truth (@ dsl-chn-111.253.247.61.touchtelindia.net) on: Thu Dec 2 03:39:50 EST 2004
  
  Thank God! Soon Sudras will leave Hinduism.
  Thank u Lord Rama and Krishan.
  
  

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