Topic started by S G Krishnan (@ dialpool-210-214-184-210.maa.sify.net) on Wed Mar 27 11:54:15 .
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Did TN needed a dravidian movement ? What are it's achievements and failures ? And most importantly - Has the dravdian movement isolated tamils and TN from the rest of india ? Lets kick of the discussion with a post by G Dravid who used to post earlier in FH.

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• From: tony azggan (@ dialup-4.231.214.26.dial1.miami1.level3.net) on: Wed Apr 21 18:19:37 EDT 2004
  
  Dr.Nedunchezian:
  What logic what a profound discussion about Thamizhan . You are a true dravidian. You and I are on the same wavelength. I also want all brahmins to be thrown out of Tamil Nadu. Atleast there will be one part of the world that is to paraphrase Lincoln for backwards, by backwards and of backwards.
  Today it is just an advantage to be a moron but imagine a Country where every one is an idiot. I also agree that is a place for you. But all the idiots I know talk like you but never go to thamizgam. That will be the day when you do. If you go back I shall eat a full cow, crow and karuvadu, all in one meal. You like so many dravidians will find a streetwalker who is a citizen , bribe her, and try to become an immigrant by marrying her and keep on barking about Thamizhgam.
  Do not get angry with me because Canada has no reservation for imbeciles.There are several colleges just for you not McGill or U of T.
  
  
• From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62) on: Thu Apr 22 11:29:39 EDT 2004
  
  //You like so many dravidians will find a streetwalker who is a citizen , bribe her, and try to become an immigrant by marrying her and keep on barking about Thamizhgam.
  Do not get angry with me because Canada has no reservation for imbeciles.There are several colleges just for you not McGill or U of T.//
  
  nAh man no need to..I been living here for almost 5 years and I don't need to bribe or anything...and my father been living here for 7 years and If he had became citizen of Canada...which he could have after 3 years..I would have been already a citizen..automatically but after 18 ..after next august I have to write the exam myself..It's not hard anyway. Yet there are some people who bribe and become citizens and Thamizhan used to do it a little(not anyone I know though) too but there are law against it...and yes I'm trying to get into a University...and your vision and bias toward Foreign Thamizh should change and must change..and will change.
  
  Oh and of course If I ever come back to Thamizhagam..I'll let you know...I don't want to talk about future plans and things ...until I graduate out of a University and get a Job and stand on my own legs.
  
  Not to mention the other fact..we Thamizhans unlike Europeans stay in home even after we reach 30 and beyond lol. There is no chance of me staying in Canada..after Graduation..and I also like to go back to where I born rather than suffering alienately in a country (although it's my choice to do it so until I graduate). Perhaps in the future in 2 or 3 years Maybe If I make some $$ I'll visit TN anyway don't eat Crow..it's not good ...it's dis-respecting Thamizh pulavar who was a women 'kAkaipAdiniyar':D.
  
  
• From: i lau pambay girls and tamil fraud culture (@ 203.94.214.114) on: Fri Apr 23 06:00:53 EDT 2004
  
  One typical Tamilian first time came to Bombay, I am highlighting some of his experiences here:
  
  *In pompay only tippin available , no sapath available
  
  *In pompay even girls go for jogging in the morning wearing shorts, these girrzhs are shameless I say, they have no culture.
  
  * In pampay ayoo ayooh even girls shake hands with boys and they roam together, probably their pathers have not thought them gulture. We Tamilians are highly cultured, we don't go out with girls like this.
  
  * In pampay ayooho girls are sitting next to boy in the bus, very sad I say.
  
  * ayoohoo, these Marwari girls are so peutiful, I feel like sitting with them and touching their hand amma... nambu punnu allahrtho karpu pichaakar maariya yerikudhe, but these marwari girls in pampay are so smart, they do jogging, they go disco, shameless I say.
  
  ( for your information a normal educated Tamilian calls any non-south Indian as Marwaris, so Marwaris please don't feel hurted, it is narrow minded brain of tamilians who knows any fair skin person as marwari or sedh).
  
  ayyyoo, all these marwari, punus, and pasanglas keep on eating neyi (ghee) and bizza, sukka roti,
  nothing like our tamil meals, sapathu, I am hungry starving here in pambay without sapathu, please take me back to my divine, backward slums were I can follow my classical culture and backward langauge with backward certipigates. My gaument will give a suber jaab under rejerved gota, i will be gappy with carrom, laaadge, beer and gusbu.
  
  Good pye to pambay, never in my life i would come to pambay I say... all cultureless idiots I say.
  
  
  
• From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62) on: Mon Apr 26 13:58:20 EDT 2004
  
  The story of how bombay born:
  
  The Thamizhan who was kicked out of his land..for being patriotic..ran south on his old bicycle and ...finally came to a city on his way and to his suprise..everything was upside down...even the people...so he goes inside the city and ask a person in Thamizh 'Aiyaa,..intha nakar peyar enna?'..that person didn't know what he was saying and walked away..then he went after him and asked him in English, "What is this city name?" The men who had also known English responded as followed:
  
  This is proud capital of maharastra is well known for prostitution and for how we allow open environment to (everything). Our glorious dirty backward vedda following city is a diversity of everyone from each and every corner of (H)India!
  
  //In pompay even girls go for jogging in the morning wearing shorts, these girrzhs are shameless I say, they have no culture. //
  
  In bombay girls..go for jogging in the morning..and you know what else they go jogging around for..
  
  //* In pampay ayoo ayooh even girls shake hands with boys and they roam together, probably their pathers have not thought them gulture. We Tamilians are highly cultured, we don't go out with girls like this. //
  Our girls and boyz shake hands together and hold hand together...they also follow the moder world on experincing the adult life..in the early stage..provkingly..failures lead to the wrong way..oh and sire we are so proud of it..that I could buy you a pizza!
  
  //* In pampay ayooho girls are sitting next to boy in the bus, very sad I say. //
  The bus driver himself have his wife beside him in the bus..(a glorious community of Bombay).
  
  
  //* ayoohoo, these Marwari girls are so peutiful, I feel like sitting with them and touching their hand amma... nambu punnu allahrtho karpu pichaakar maariya yerikudhe, but these marwari girls in pampay are so smart, they do jogging, they go disco, shameless I say. //
  
  You will feel more than touching their ..hand..only for another ..Ten rupee and for a pepperoni pizza..and that's something marawri girls are famous for I say..
  
  //ayyyoo, all these marwari, punus, and pasanglas keep on eating neyi (ghee) and bizza, sukka roti,
  nothing like our tamil meals, sapathu, I am hungry starving here in pambay without sapathu, please take me back to my divine, backward slums were I can follow my classical culture and backward langauge with backward certipigates. My gaument will give a suber jaab under rejerved gota, i will be gappy with carrom, laaadge, beer and gusbu. //
  
  Oh and we eat junk food..and our health is very good..(unfortunately they may not have heard of soru or satham(rice), pittu, thosai(dosai), Idiappam, Idli, murukku, vadai(vada), mothakam, kozhukaddai, urotti (rotti), kothumai appam (bread), appam and more)..oh and we have forgotten about water..since we were replaced with carbonated drinks like Coke, Pepsi..and Seven UP and we encourage our childrens to drink it although we know the effect of it.
  
  the Thamizhan interrupted and asked curiously...sire "Your childrens might be lucky to be fathered by you and living in this Great city of 'Bombay'(kOmbai!)...the men said: " Oh yes I have two daughters..and he paused..The Thamizhan asked suddently.."Sir..what happened.." The men said, "Oh it's just that I'm thinking whether if my daughters are girls or not!"
  
  Then the Thamizhan said..oh I think I forgot about something and turned his bicycle and went back to TN..and was relieved to be out of the 'Earth Flat' Thinking community of 'prostiution' of Bombay!
  
  
• From: welldoneHH (@ 203.94.237.61) on: Mon Apr 26 14:59:16 EDT 2004
  
  That is why highest AIDS in chennai and TN
  
  
• From: KP (@ aca61c3a.ipt.aol.com) on: Tue Apr 27 13:42:35 EDT 2004
  
  Dear N Thambi,
  
  Why u in high school. That is a complete waste of time. It is taking time away from proper Eelam brainwashing. Do you think child soldiers in Eelam are allowed schooling? What use is arithmetic or geography to suicide-bomber? If you are Vellala then that is ok- since only children of worthless low-caste Pallars etc. can be made soldiers. Children of upper-castes & wealthy are too important to be used as cannon fodder. That is what Uncle R told me.
  
  U are perfect Eelamist who lives in democratic Canada but secretly yearns for fascist totalitarianism. One day we will prove that Eelavars were original Inhabitants of Canada and we will launch National Struggle for Self-Determination. Archeology has confirmed that there are remains of Concrete Bunkers in Yukon which are 3 million years old. Tamil will be *only* official language. We will ethnically cleanse Quebecois since they are traitors.
  
  
• From: tony (@ dialup-4.234.54.67.dial1.miami1.level3.net) on: Tue Apr 27 14:13:49 EDT 2004
  
  Dr.Neduncheziyan:
  Not many people go back to Tamil Nadu , They stay in Canada doing menial jobs even though they can get doctorates in T.N. You will be one of them. But these patriots always talk about going to Tamil Nadu.The backwards will be backwards anywhere is the world but in T.N. you can get one of the reserved doctorates. But it is better to become a street cleaner in Toronto.
  
  
• From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62) on: Tue Apr 27 14:47:46 EDT 2004
  
  //U are perfect Eelamist who lives in democratic Canada but secretly yearns for fascist totalitarianism. One day we will prove that Eelavars were original Inhabitants of Canada and we will launch National Struggle for Self-Determination. Archeology has confirmed that there are remains of Concrete Bunkers in Yukon which are 3 million years old. Tamil will be *only* official language. We will ethnically cleanse Quebecois since they are traitors.//
  
  Moron go read Canadian history! All Canadians believed to be migrants from elsewhere. British and French and Spanish and Portuguese (namely: Europeans) ruled South America and North America and are ruling it..and aren't indigenous people just like Hindis and Sanskirit loving Brahmins are ruling (H)India but the change in story is that Indigenous people seem to be Thamizhans who originated there!
  
  Even in the future if there is a case of finding archealogical evidence..Canada wouldn't hide anything you fool! Unlike trying to see if Aryans roots are right in so called 'saraswati' river while Harappa and Mohenjadaro bricks are stolen for daily 'Home Build' in so called (H)India to delete the trace of Thamizhans from ancient history! Why don't you go brush Vajpayee teeth!
  
  You think casteism and things exist in Thamizheezham? Well it doesn't exist as much as it in so called (H)India and unfortunatley plunging TN with it! It won't exist in Thamizheezham if Thamizheezham become a country! Why don't you go ask the (H)Indian government why they haven't tried to do anything to get rid of the casteism or religious conflicts? Don't tell me it's hard because that's how (H)India politican live their lifes! Are you trying to tell me (H)India educates it's citizen fully?! Kerala has 100% Literated people comparing to TN with 64% and all other states are lower than the bottom of the totem pole!
  
  

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