Topic started by Katii (@ 62.73.245.24) on Thu Jul 17 23:19:05 .
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Hello

Ive heard that the SL-tamil language is closer to malayalee then TN-tamil, and that they came from Kerala area. Is that true?

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• From: Balakrishnan S Nayakkar (@ gvawebdproxy1.net.external.hp.com) on: Fri Jul 18 06:00:18 EDT 2003
  
  ###Ive heard that the SL-tamil language is closer to malayalee then TN-tamil, and that they came from Kerala area. Is that true? ###
  Srilankan tamil is very close to written-tamil than spoken-tamil(mostly slangs) in tamilnadu. Mallus spoken-malayalam is close to written-tamil (or may be written-malayalam). Thats why it sounds same.
  
  
• From: gopalan (@ 202.41.104.94) on: Fri Jul 18 07:38:36 EDT 2003
  
  try telling this to sri lankan tamils ! all the best ! by the way, there is a hospital just round the corner, in case you need it!
  
  
• From: AJ (@ on-tor-blr-a58-02-738.look.ca) on: Fri Jul 18 13:18:58 EDT 2003
  
  We Srilankan Tamils are from the all three Tamil kingdoms, Chera, Chozha, and Pandiya’s. But I think majority of our ancestors are from Chozha mandalam. Srilankan Tamil sounds very close to Malayalam because our Tamil is unspoiled version of old Tamil spoken in ancient Tamil kingdoms.
  
  " Srilankan Tamil dialect was the most pure, the closest remaining cousin to the Tamil that was spoken in the ninth century India, a tongue that had been referred to, in the classical literature of the time as " a goddess." The Tamil language they claimed was the oldest, richest, most copious, refined and polished language spoken by man - more polished than Greek, more copious than Latin." of all the Dravidian tongues, Tamil is the most fitted to be the instrument of exact thought” wrote one linguist. (Ref: The Tragedy of Srilanka – William Mccowan)
  
  “It is impossible for any European who has acquired a competent knowledge of Tamil to it regard otherwise than with a respect for intellectual capacity of a people among whom so wonderful an organ of thought has been developed.”
  (Italian born Jesuit priest Beschi, Constantino Giuseppe aka Weramamunivar 1680 – 1747)
  
  
• From: gopalan (@ 202.41.104.94) on: Sat Jul 19 07:35:24 EDT 2003
  
  "more polished than Greek, more copious than Latin"
  
  are you sure it was about tamil? i think it is how william jones described sanskrit in 1786.
  
  "the wonderful structure of the Sanskrit language is more perfect than the Greek, more copious than the Latin, and more exquisitely refined than either,"
  
  
• From: s (@ dclient217-162-115-14.hispeed.ch) on: Sat Jul 19 08:21:37 EDT 2003
  
  I guess it is the other way round. Malayalam would have originated from Sri Lankan Tamil!
  
  
• From: AJ (@ on-tor-blr-a58-03-699.look.ca) on: Sat Jul 19 11:15:33 EDT 2003
  
  //are you sure it was about tamil? i think it is how william jones described sanskrit in 1786.//
  
  That was the excerpt from the book called "The Tragedy of Srilanka, by William Mccowan, former Editor of the Washington monthly. PAGE 173.
  I am not a linguist.
  
  
  
  
• From: Katii (@ 62.73.245.39) on: Sat Jul 19 18:12:12 EDT 2003
  
  gopaalan
  I didnt get your joke? You spoke like being from TN is worse then being from Kerala? If SL hail from Kerala or TN, makes no difference, it was just news to me that they came from Melabar Coast, which is in Kerala. Anyways, its all the same, TN and Kerala is the same. Although TN is special, cuz its the biggest film industry state of the south indian states, its got more be proud of. If you are a film lover anyway :) Not saying that Kerala has nothing to be proud of :)
  
  
• From: Balakrishnan S Nayakkar (@ gvawebdproxy1.net.external.hp.com) on: Sun Jul 20 05:52:26 EDT 2003
  
  ###Although TN is special, cuz its the biggest film industry state of the south indian states,###
  
  But I personally feel that, Kerala produces more quality film than Tamilnadu as many tamil movies are dubbed from Malayalam.
  
  
• From: gopalan (@ 202.41.104.94) on: Sun Jul 20 10:57:16 EDT 2003
  
  the meaning of my joke was (well, i never thought things would go to this extent!) that malayalam is a language about a thousand years old at the outset; but the srilankan tamils claim a heritage of two thouand years and more; so they would be surely annoyed to find their history suddenly halved! so they will attack the proposer of this idea ! (whew!)
  
  
• From: gopalan (@ 202.41.104.94) on: Sun Jul 20 10:59:27 EDT 2003
  
  "But I personally feel that, Kerala produces more quality film than Tamilnadu as many tamil movies are dubbed from Malayalam."
  
  malayalam has given some very excellent films, no doubt, but this part about many tamil movies dubbing from malayalam???
  
  will anyone enlighten this ignorant non resident tamil?
  
  
• From: Mani (@ cache-rl04.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 20 13:22:04 EDT 2003
  
  gopalan,
  
  That is true, Thamizh and even Telugu have been remaking movies from Malayalam lately, but there is nothing wrong with that, if I watch a Tamil movie, I can relate to it, as if it is a Malayalam movie, but with more action.
  
  
• From: gopalan (@ 202.41.104.94) on: Sun Jul 20 14:05:05 EDT 2003
  
  well, well, then there must have been quite a change in people's taste! i remember a time when 'chemmeen' was not received well in tn!
  
  
• From: Mani (@ cache-dp09.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 20 17:39:34 EDT 2003
  
  gopalan,
  
  "i remember a time when 'chemmeen' was not received well in tn!"
  
  Well buddy, you need to bring yourself into the 21st century if that is the case...
  
  
• From: Balakrishnan S Nayakkar (@ gvawebdproxy1.net.external.hp.com) on: Mon Jul 21 02:45:58 EDT 2003
  
  Mr. Gopalan,
  I wanted to say,
  
  The percentage of tamil films dubbed/remade from malayam is more than the percentage of malayalam films dubbed/remade from Tamil.
  
  
• From: gopalan (@ 202.41.104.94) on: Mon Jul 21 04:18:33 EDT 2003
  
  mr mani,
  i dont think it is a crime not to be aware of the tastes of the people when you are away from the state for many years! :-) anyway, thanks for updating; i only hope the change is for the better.
  
  
• From: Mani (@ cache-dp09.proxy.aol.com) on: Mon Jul 21 19:44:46 EDT 2003
  
  Thiru gopalan,
  
  Of course it isn't a crime, that is why you have to look into the tastes of people up to this day. :)
  The change should be better, Tamil people and Kerala people are the same.
  
  
• From: Karthik (@ 62.73.245.39) on: Tue Jul 22 19:55:22 EDT 2003
  
  What about Kandigas and Andrahs?
  
  
• From: Mani (@ cache-dp09.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Jul 22 20:50:57 EDT 2003
  
  What about them
  
  
• From: pavul (@ cpe0080c6fd4ea0-cm014400122210.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Tue Jul 22 21:17:31 EDT 2003
  
  // Does SL tamil hail from Malayalam //
  
  NO!!
  
  NO - WAY this is true
  
  
• From: Thyagarajan Nair (@ bdsl.204.193.117.81.gte.net) on: Wed Jul 23 11:35:51 EDT 2003
  
  I think it is the opposite way around.
  
  
• From: Karthik (@ 62.73.245.39) on: Fri Jul 25 13:04:39 EDT 2003
  
  Opposite around, meaning they came from TN to SriLanka, then went back to India again?
  
  
• From: mk (@ 199.67.140.75) on: Fri Jul 25 15:54:30 EDT 2003
  
  Karthik,
  
  "What about Kandigas and Andrahs?"
  
  You mean Kandigas and Telugus? Our language is Telugu not Andhra. You could say Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh( not Andhra).
  
  
• From: Karthik (@ 62.73.245.39) on: Fri Jul 25 19:10:18 EDT 2003
  
  mk
  
  sorry, didnt know people would take offense if i said it the way i did
  
  
• From: Bramhma (@ cpe00045a7ad5ce-cm00e06f1f99e8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Sun Aug 10 21:12:35 EDT 2003
  
  The vellAlAs are the majority in the Tamil Eelam in Sri Lanka. These people think they are the highest cast. They also think the bramins are higher than them and due to this reason these vellAlAs worship bramins. They fall at the bramins feets and worship them to receive their
  blessings. Due to this reason the Sri Lankan bramins each and every one of them feel as if they are Lord Siva. Even a small boy of that cast have the same feelings. This is a great fun .
  
  
• From: karthi (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Mon Aug 11 04:33:51 EDT 2003
  
  Sri Lankans (Both Sinhalese and Tamils) now hide their KERALA connections.
  
  Portugeuse brought in thousands of Malayalees from MALABAR and other areas for the tobacco cultivation. Even today the Tobacco society known as MALAYALA PUGAYILAI SANGAM in Jaffna. Those Malayalees later became Vellalas during the dutch period.
  
  Eastern Sri Lanka is full of MUKKUVA population.
  MUKKUWA LAW is the equivalent of Jaffna's Thesa Valamai which based on Malayala Marumakka Thayam and other malayala customs.
  
  KURUPPU is a well known name in Kerala. Thousands of KURUPPUS live as Sinhalese in Sri lanka.
  
  TAMIL was introduced as the language of instruction in schools by late prime minister S W R D Bandara nayake, father of the present president but Tamils of Sri lanka always blame for the introduction of Tamil language.
  
  

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