Topic started by :) punnahai (@ d221-216-99.systems.cogeco.net) on Thu Jun 20 18:39:20 .
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How many variations of colloquial tamil do we have and what are they? How do they differ from each other in terms of words, pronounciation, etc.?

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• From: arudkO (@ l-sc217-08g.cavern.carleton.ca) on: Wed Sep 11 18:38:00
  
  Raveen: "I thought Punahai was Prakash too and actually asked him, and Punahai said no..."
  
  Well, I just find it too odd to believe it could be coincidenc that two different people from the same district from the same annoying anology (Wales- English). But it's possible.
  Also if you noticed, recently punnahai has used the 1000 yr statatement used by prakash.
  
  "Why are you SL Tamils so preoccupied with Tamilnadu. You left this place more than a 1000 years ago. Since you guys left, whole new languages and civilizations have risen and fallen."
  {Tecnically the settlement of Tamils in Tamil Eelam is a continuous process POSSIBLY from BC era to British era! (Now I am not encouraging our need to pre-occuppy with TN affairs)}
  
  But So I'll leve this subject for now!
  
  punnahai,
  
  But maRai(veda) has possible meaning as the true meanings are decoded(hidden), thus a wise only understands it. Or (hide) make it not so accessible to the general public!
  
  I guess there could be exceptions where one word could mean two (or more ) differnt things that are close to opposites!
  
  
• From: arudkO (@ l-lh121-16g.cavern.carleton.ca) on: Mon Sep 23 23:34:05
  
  pirakaasu iyengar et all,
  
  The following excerpts from N.Ganesan's writings might explain why some people thought h (I prounouce as similar to h) and others thought g.
  
  "...When I talk of 'hard' consonant 'k' becoming soft '*h*', there is
  a qualification. It is not english h, There is little of english
  g in *h* too. Can we denote it as 'g-h' or a weighted average
  (0.7h + 0.3g)?? Similarly, When I talk of 'hard' consonant 'c'
  becoming soft '*s*', there is a qualification. It is not english s,
  There is little of english c in *s* too. Can we denote it as 'c-s'
  or a weighted average (0.7s + 0.3c)?? *TR* = (0.2T + 0.8R);
  *DR* = (0.2D + 0.8R), I think. Have seen Toronto transcribed as
  RoraaNTO, observe the TR sound in "Ro" of RoraaNTO.
  Also, Peter is transcribed as piiRRar, not as piiTTar.
  The 'T' in *TR* is like english 't' as in Peter, an alveolar.
  Definitely not a retroflex. ..."
  
  
• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Tue Oct 8 18:52:40
  
  Punnahai:
  
  As you may aware, in Southern part of TN people say colloquially (RMT dists),
  
  angittu, ingittu (for that side or this side)
  
  but in the northern part people say
  
  "anthandai" "inthandai".
  
  I am from South and I was not aware of the latter ones and felt like laughing especially when I was speaking to a friend a friend of mine, who is from the north and thinks that their Tamil is better than southern Tamil though she speaks Telugu at home (in fact, horrible TeluNgu at home and which is their mother tongue)
  
  Obviously, I feel Northern people are always cocky and think that they speak better Tamil than South. (Hope u are not originally from northern part of TN!!!)
  
  MY friend started criticizing the southern Tamil,
  
  angittu ingittu - why do you people talk like this and so on so forth.
  
  and was telling me as if "anthandai" "inthandai" are better than ""angittu or ingittu"".
  
  Do you agree with her or not?
  
  Sounds like you grew up in Madras. So you may join with the northern people and turn me down here. Hi, this is a joke!
  
  Again the question is which one sounds better or more sensible colloquial Tamil?
  
  

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