Silimarities between Sinhala and Tamil
Topic started by Nimmi Alahakoon (@ pbarray04.powerup.com.au) on Thu Nov 2 06:37:24 .
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Hi all, I've noticed that the Sinhala script is very different to North Indian scripts despite the fact that it is an indo-aryan language. The Sinhala script is very similar to Telugu and also Kannada. Similarities with Tamil also exist, for example the letter "ka". Do you think that there existed a common ancestor for all these scripts (I've read that it is Brahmi). Also, there are lots of Tamil words in the Sinhala language, for example I think
"salli", "sereppu", "ottu", "kanaadi" are all Tamil words in Sinhala.
Another question: Do you think it would be racist of the Sinhalese to de-Tamilise their language just as the Tamils did with Sanskrit? (Personally I believe Sinhala is all the more richer for having words that have tamil origins)
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- From: Ganesh Math (@ mkc-65-30-77-243.kc.rr.com)
on: Fri Dec 27 10:28:02
Mr. Sinhala Pakeya
If the percentage of tamils was 27 % then, how does that justify the demand of 50/50 representation? and, secondly you are saying that around 27% of the Sinhalese wanted to be recognised as a separate entity, did Selvayagam include these people also with Tamils for his 50% demand?
- From: AJ (@ h216-18-119-45.gtconnect.net)
on: Fri Dec 27 12:20:53
DEMAND FOR BALANCED REPRESENTATION
Before independence although the Tamils did not demand the restoration of the National status ante, they did demand balanced representation. This demand came to be known as 50-50 envisaged allocating 50% of the parliamentary seats to the Sinhalese and the balance 50% to the Tamils, Muslims, Burgers and other minority groups. This was rejected by the Soulbury Commission, but they did incorporate Section 29 (2) (b) and (c) which curtailed the legislative power of Parliament to "make laws for the peace, order and good government of the island". This Section provided that no such law shall impose any disabilities, or confer any advantages, on members of any one community only. This principle of balanced representation prevails in the United States in selection of senators.
Yet,S.J.V. Chelvanayakam raised and fomented Tamil fears. It is recalled that in 1947 he declared.
"The Tamil language is in danger of being annihilated. The Sinhalese leaders are plotting to make Sinhala the only official language in country and to relegate Tamil to the Northern and Eastern Provinces and make it a purely local language."
One pronouncement of Samuel James Velupillai Chelvanayakam in 1956 remained the most significant of all:
"The Britishers, relying on the Sinhalese leadership to be trustworthy men who would not oppose the minority section, transferred the responsibility of the government to them. The Sinhalese, taking advantage of their numerical strength, denied the Tamils their rights".
http://www.tamilcanadian.com/eelam/history/Commonwealth.html
- From: Sinhala pakeya (@ cache-loh-ad02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Dec 27 20:10:41
HI Ganesh
As A.J has written above WHAT ponnambalam demanded was parity between the Sinhalese and Non-sinhalese in representation also known as balanced representation.
- From: kotiya paiyan (@ acbfff21.ipt.aol.com)
on: Mon Dec 30 15:31:37
Dear Uncle AJ,
"Had this principle of balanced representation"
Uncle AJ has a wonderful concept of 'balance.' Balance in Eelamist logic means that Sinhalese people should get shoved in the dirt and Eelam thug terrorists should run things.
Ponnambalam's original idea was that Sinhalese people only get 50% of representation even though they comprise 75% of the population. THe reasoning is as follows: Eelam terrorists have lived in the island ever since it broke away from Gondwanaland 140 million years ago, and therefore Eelam terrorist thugs must have all the privileges.
The only problem with Ponnambalam's reasoning was that Sinhalese had any voting rights at all. Sinhalese should have at 0% representation and Sri Lanka should've become an apartheid state. That is what Uncle AJ is trying to say.
"It is only by giving balanced representation to a racial minority, can prevent a racial majority trampling upon the rights of a racial minority in a democratic country."
Uncle AJ is once again communicating through his rear end. In the US, Whites are not relegated 50% representation. That does not appear in any 'democracy.' That is because there is no Eelam-style terrorist democracy.
The only place which had such a system was apartheid South Africa, where the whites declared they were an oppressed minority and therefore they had every right to suppress the black majority.
I predict Uncle AJ and his Eelam flunkies will calling this 'spinning.' Uncle is very predictable- he can only cry and whine when he runs out of anything substantial to say. He can't argue with the message so he can only attack the messenger. Kudos to Eelam logic!!
- From: Nisala (@ acbfff21.ipt.aol.com)
on: Mon Dec 30 15:38:16
Dear Brahmin-Slayer,
I am extremely impressed with your math skills you picked up in Eelam school. When I say Sinhalese comprise about 75% of the population (1981 census) then you reply that Sinhalese have never been over 72%. My mistake. The island is populated with illiterate Eelam goons like yourself.
"When Poonnambalam asked for 50%/50% the Sinhala fools in ceylon only numbered 61% or there abouts."
Pakeya thambi learned wonderful things from Sangam.org, but when i looked at that website i couldn't find those numbers even there.
Maybe Pakeya Thambi got '61%' from the same place where he learned that Eelam nation had existed in primordial Gondwanaland!!!!!
Pakeya Thambi surely knows that the Estate Tamils of Sri Lanka were never considered as the same community as the upper-caste northern Tamils. I think it is a shame that he is including these 'thottakarans' as Tamils.
"we the 90 million Tamils the world over must not rest until we achive a complete independentant state of Thamil Eelam preferably with the total annihilation of the Sinhala barbaric race."
That is exactly what I'm trying to tell Uncle AJ and the others. they do not reply to these noble ideals. Please Pakeya Thambi try to convince Uncle AJ and all those other traitors to Eelam cause that genocide is a wonderful tool to acheive Tamil Eelam.
- From: Nisala (@ acbfff21.ipt.aol.com)
on: Mon Dec 30 16:19:30
Ganesh Math,
It's good to see you again.
I would be very wary of Pakeya's numbers. Earlier, he claimed that the Tamils originally came from 'Gondwanaland,' a continent that existed over 140 million years ago. I don't think he really knows what he's talking about.
Ponnambalam's idea was that in the name of 'minority rights,' minorities would be given 50% representation in government.
What my Eelam thug brothers have neglected to mention was that the SL Tamils would've been the dominant minority. Specifically, the 50% would have been cut into two slices, 25% for the Tamils and 25% for all the other minorities.
In other words, Ponnambalam was trying to rally all the minorities for an utterly racist plan which would increase the representation of his constituency (Tamils) at the expense of the Sinhalese. His demand caused a great deal of anger among the Sinhalese who were previously not hostile towards the Tamils.
As I mentioned before, I never seen such logic in any democracy save apartheid South Africa (if it could've been called a democracy).
Another thing that my terrorist Uncles and Thambis forgot is after Ponnambalam's demand, the Board of Ministers gave a counterproposal for 57-43; Sinhalese would get 57% representation and the minorities would get 43%.. still hardly an equitable system.
The bigoted racist Ponnambalam rejected that compromise!!!! The idea of Sinhalese people having representation at all must have made his stomach turn! He probably thought that 50% demand was a kind gesture to a people he thought should have 0% representation.
I can never condone the violence committed against Tamils by Sinhalese racists and thugs. But when I read how utterly arrogant and despicable these early Tamil politicians were, I can see how resentment could've been built among the Sinhalese who previously had no argument or grievance with the Tamils.
"you are saying that around 27% of the Sinhalese wanted to be recognised as a separate entity, did Selvayagam include these people also with Tamils for his 50% demand?"
That's another thing Pakeya Thambi is pulling out of his rear end. In the early 20th century before independence, there was talk about federalism. When the topic came up, the up-country Sinhalese (the Kandyans) advocated more autonomy to the Kandyan regions. However, federalism was little more than a fad those days, and when it passed the Kandyans fell silent. They didn't go into hysterics and start suicide-bombing or anything.
No, the Kandyans were not counted as a minority in Ponnambalam's 50% racket. These Tamil racist scumbuckets considered all Sinhalese equally inferior, which undoubtedly contributed a great deal towards SInhala unity later.
- From: A true Sinhala pakeya (@ cache-loh-aa02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Mon Dec 30 20:29:43
Hi Nisala Nakiya pakeya Listen
"That's another thing Pakeya Thambi is pulling out of his rear end." I know you Sinhalayas are good at using your rear ends for talking as well as for other things, like your podiyans at Bentota beach in Sri lanka where they use their rear ends to earn forigen exchange to support mother Lanka's war efforts against the Tamils.
Let me tell you dog shit, We Tamils know how to flush you brainless inferior sinhala barbarians out of this planet. The time is up for your falsehoods, propagandas and distortions of the Eelam history. we will soon send you Sinhala racist dogs to eternal rest in hell.Be ready to face the day of final reckoning, you racist pig.
- From: A true sinhala pakeya (@ cache-loh-aa02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Mon Dec 30 21:24:34
HI Nisala
I would be very wary of Pakeya's numbers. Earlier, he claimed that the Tamils originally came from 'Gondwanaland,' a continent that existed over 140 million years ago. I don't think he really knows what he's talking about.
when did I say that the Tamils( as we know them today)came from Gonwanaland.Can you prove your above statement??? you bloody lier.
- From: FrodoB (@ dhcp26140018.columbus.rr.com)
on: Wed Jan 15 19:36:18
Hello, this is FrodoB. I am Telugu, but I want to comment on a few things. LANGUAGE IS NOT A BARRIER! Sinhalese and Tamils look just like you and me (I see NO difference)! Just because there is a differce in language, the idea of race and religion was rubbed in. I believe that everyone whould be equal in their own right. The Buddhist religion teaches all of us that we need to live in harmony (remember the story of Shakyans vs Koliyans). Everyone should live in peace. I believe Sri Lanka shouldn't be split at all. Just give everyone equal rights as a human not as a group.
- From: FrodoB (@ dhcp26140018.columbus.rr.com)
on: Wed Jan 15 19:38:38
And yeah! NO ONE LIVED IN GONDWANALAND. The vedas have time all messed and without proof state many things.
- From: kotiya paiyan (@ ac91bb91.ipt.aol.com)
on: Wed Jan 15 22:04:30
Hey where's Uncle AJ? I guess he can't argue against my points.... :-(
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