Topic started by Dr. Madhusudan Mishra (@ 203-195-140-42.now-india.net.in) on Sun Dec 30 02:25:24 .
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Though the word draviDa or drAviDa has been current in India for a long time, it has acquired a derogatory sense in the recent ethnology, specially in relation to the racially Aryan concept of the west. Really, it has no ethnological connotation. As a geographical
region it relates to south India. But when the people are considered, even the Maharashtrans and Gujratis are included, specially the Brahmins living there. It is however true that Maharashtra and Gujarat cannot be reckoned as the Dravida country.

The word DraviDa or DrAviDa has no etymology. It may be taken to be an agglutinative formation: dra +vi + da. The central -vi- is also replaced by -mi-, and the name Tamil has actually come from dra-mi-da. Then it appears that dra- is the basic element. It was extended by -mida for one region and by -vida for the other. Later this
distinction was lost and the word Dravida became more common.

Though dra occurs in a passage in the AV (11,7,3), its meaning is not known. But da = heat + ra = fire making dra may refer to the `hot
sun', and the following -mida or -vida may stand for a `region'. Thus dra-mi (vi) -da seems to mean `the country of the hot sun'. Later it
began to refer to the people inhabiting that region.

Though of a similar derivation, Ki-rA-ta is free from any such controversy. The word kirAta occurs since the VS (30,16), and Manu has put them in the category of the drAviDas, but it is free from a strictly racial controversy. They have never remained concentrated to a region due to their wandering habit, which is confirmed from the
central syllable -ra-. In Prakrit, it is cilAa, but it is difficult to identify them with some modern group with identical name.

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http://www.indusscript.net/appendix.html

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• From: davie (@ 000f660dd37e.utep.edu) on: Thu Aug 19 02:56:50 EDT 2004
  
  Dr. Madhusudan Mishra
  U fukin indian doctorates are responsible for writing erraneous books relating some african or some fukn races with colored indians.
  Why dont u guys do true world class research on anthropology?
  fuk off u idiots
  
  
• From: happyindian (@ bbcache-13.singnet.com.sg) on: Fri Aug 20 02:31:21 EDT 2004
  
  davie why do i suspect u wanna b white or u wanna feel u r the same as those caucasian guys. anyways that's u'r personal stuff. but i just think that its no good on u'r part 2 use bad language on anyone much less someone fm the academia who's sharing stuff with us here. no wonder many such ppl just keep away from the forum for fear of closed minded ppl who use sic language.
  
  
• From: davie (@ cim-dell14.cim.utep.edu) on: Fri Aug 20 12:15:23 EDT 2004
  
  coz i know that this is correct.
  and i dont want some FALSE INFORMATION TO PROPAGATE and poison those nice journal papers in anthropology
  
  
• From: davie (@ cim-dell14.cim.utep.edu) on: Fri Aug 20 12:16:39 EDT 2004
  
  sory if i used sic language
  just got irritated with Dr. Arvanan.
  
  
• From: happyindian (@ bbcache-10.singnet.com.sg) on: Fri Aug 20 12:33:05 EDT 2004
  
  that's real cool, davie. very nice of u 2 apologise so open-heartedly.... :-) hmm...so u r a nice man.
  
  hey, all of u hubbers out there, why isn't anyone answering my queries yet?
  
  
• From: Harish Kumar (@ 203-195-203-203.now-india.net.in) on: Sat Aug 21 05:21:57 EDT 2004
  
  Dravid ... Aryan...Dravid ... Aryan...Dravid ... Aryan...Dravid ... Aryan...Dravid ... Aryan...Dravid ... Aryan...Dravid ... Aryan...Dravid ... Aryan...Dravid ... Aryan...Dravid ... Aryan...
  
  "And as long as you people are going to spend the time quarrelling withe ahc other over these things the precious energy that should be used for national growth is getting wasted."
  
  -Swami Vivekananda.
  
  
• From: happyindian (@ bbcache-13.singnet.com.sg) on: Sat Aug 21 06:46:05 EDT 2004
  
  right HK am trying 2 debunk the myth called superiority of anything. no language, race or religion is superior. superiority is a reflection of our ego. hope the tamil excluvisits why they are alienating the rest of the so-called `dravida world'. its bcoz of their attitude. no wonder malayalees, telugus, kannadas prefer to associate with sanskritists than tamils. for all u know descendents of agastya muni might b amongst the present-day malayalis not tamils, for there was nothing called malayalam, tamil, telugu or kannada at one time, only a common dravida language. hope our tamil (and sanskrit) brothers and sisters realise that there is nothing called aryan, dravidian and feel content with being simply indians.
  
  
• From: happyindian (@ bbcache-11.singnet.com.sg) on: Sat Aug 21 06:47:05 EDT 2004
  
  sorry typo, shd be "hope the tamil excluvisits realise why they are alienating the rest of the so-called ...."
  
  

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