The great thevars and reddy's
Topic started by murari (@ 218.188.2.130) on Tue Aug 5 16:05:52 .
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Tamilan-1 has admitted that he is a Thevar.
I wonder why he hasn't said a word about his caste and how they are committing atrocities against dalits.
This is why the Dravidian movement is a hoax. It offered a convenient cover to the so-called OBCs who are the biggest oppressors of the dalits in TN by keeping on scapegoating brahmins.
Here are a few links about Thevar atrocities in Tamil Nadu. There are no such comparable atrocities being committed by Brahmins today. For Madhu Reddy's benefit, there are similar links for Reddy atrocities in Andhra which can be posted later.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/india/index.htm#TopOfPage
Some of the chapters talk about Thevars here:
Thevars [caste Hindus] treat Sikkaliars [Dalits] as slaves so they can utilize them as they wish. They exploit them sexually and make them dig graveyards for high-caste people’s burials. They have to take the death message to Thevars. These are all unpaid services.
— Manibharati, social activist, Madurai district, Tamil Nadu2
In the past, twenty to thirty years ago, [Dalits] enjoyed the practice of “untouchability.” In the past, women enjoyed being oppressed by men. They weren’t educated. They didn’t know the world... They enjoy Thevar community men having them as concubines... They cannot afford to react, they are dependent on us for jobs and protection... She wants it from him. He permits it. If he has power, then she has more affection for the landlord.
— A prominent Thevar political leader, Tamil Nadu3
This is in http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/india/India994-02.htm#P350_19723
Also,
In protest against police action on Thevars at Sivakasi, Thevars in Mansapuram village attempted to introduce coconut shells at tea stalls for Dalits to keep them from sharing tea tumblers used by caste Hindus. When Dalits resisted, Thevars torched and looted Dalit houses in Amachiyarpatti village. In Rengappanaikkanpatti Thevars vowed to make Dalits “dig pits for the burial of bodies of dominant castes.”241 The entire Dalit population of the village was later forcibly driven out, as Thevars set fire to their homes and fields.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1999/india/India994-07.htm#P1120_219907
Tamilan-1 - First clean up your community. Then talk about others. The same goes for Madhu Reddy
Here are some links on Reddy atrocities (Truth is, simple Google searches 'Reddy atrocities on Dalits' or 'Thevar atrocities on Dalits' yield so many current incidents that it is hard to choose!)
http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/india/caste.html describes this incident:
One who spoke was an elderly man who recalled in broken sentences the gruesome details of the carnage he had recently witnessed in Kambalapalli village in Kolar district, Karnataka. His wife,daughter and two sons were burned alive,along with three others,when members of the Reddy community (caste Hindus) set fire to three huts belonging to Dalit families. His eldest son, the first graduate from the village, had been murdered two years earlier, also by caste Hindus. With folded hands, he pleaded for protection for the few survivors in his family. All the Dalits in the village had fled in fear of further attacks. None wanted to return home as they believed the police would not protect them.
In
http://www.flonnet.com/fl1816/18160440.htm we have this incident:
On May 11, Nadella Anjaiah went to the well to get a pot of water after working in the field for many hours. He waited for someone from the upper castes to fill the pot but in vain. He felt so thirsty that he ventured to draw water from the well. Sreenivasa Reddy, an upper-caste person, saw Anjaiah carry water to his home. He objected to that and an altercation ensued.
The Reddys considered it an affront to their authority and decided that they should not allow the Dalits access to the water any longer. They chased three Dalit girls away from the well the next day. After a week without water, the Dalits lodged a complaint with District Collector Sunil Sharma. The Collector directed the revenue and police officials concerned to settle the issue. However, the Reddys did not relent, saying that the well belonged to a private trust. Ignoring the objections, the officials allowed the Dalits to draw water from the well.
The Reddys abandoned the well and drew water from a borewell, which yielded only saline water. They imposed a social boycott against the Dalits. They refused to engage Dalits for farm work. Following their diktat, the village society refused to accept milk from the Dalits. Barbers and washermen declined to serve them.
A Brahmin invites the wrath of Thevars for choosing to speak in favour of Dalits and is fighting for their rights:
http://www.vikatan.com/jv/2002/oct/20102002/jv0106.shtml
Responses:
- From: Karuvayan (@ pool-141-157-242-216.ny325.east.verizon.net)
on: Tue Aug 5 17:42:48 EDT 2003
First, Tamilan-1, is not a Thevar. He is a Christian but still carries his caste title. This is similar to Madhu and Co. The Biggest oppressors of dalits are the OBCs, MBCs and BCs themselves. They find it convenient to blame brahmins and other forward castes for their crimes. This is a classic case of passing the buck.
See this site for example on how dalits are treated badly within the church:
http://www.dalitchristians.com
- From: tony (@ user-uive8al.dsl.mindspring.com)
on: Tue Aug 5 20:16:16 EDT 2003
Thevars have a God (kusboo) given right to beat up Dalits.Thevars hate Dalits because brahmins were bad 5000 years ago. Tamilian I is against discrimination. Coming from Tamil Nadu which is known world over to be an equal employment opportunityemployer and where caste does not make a difference in admission to colleges, Tamilian I gets angry whenever anyone says that people should not be treated equally. In Tamil Nadu all depends on one's talent, marks, and hard work to come up in life. Only brahmins bitch about
discrimination even though they are not qualified by the fact that they do not have the required certificates.They are leaving for inferior states and uncultured non dravidian countries where they even do not want these certificates.It makes my blood boil when people say that T.N. does not give equal opportunities to everyone (as long as they can prove that they are idiots)
- From: Mani (@ cache-dp09.proxy.aol.com)
on: Tue Aug 5 22:59:24 EDT 2003
Karuvayan,
You talk about Christianity so much, you must be a Christian! ;-)
- From: jayakanthan (@ 195.246.218.65)
on: Wed Aug 6 12:49:21 EDT 2003
ERODE (TAMIL NADU), DEC 7: As its name suggests, Nagamanaickenpalayam, a village near here, is dominated by 200 ``upper caste'' Naicker families. Ironically, this is the same community to which the legendary Periyar E V Ramaswamy Naicker, the founding father of the Dravidian movement, belonged. But his ``self-respect'' legacy seemingly means little to the Naickers in this village beside the Cauvery, under Kodumudi town panchayat.
They recently denied the village's 100-odd Scheduled Caste families access to the nearest government hospital at Kunnathur. Then, the Dalit women were told they could not use the bathing ghat but must go downstream and bathe where buffaloes do.
The bathing ghat was built by the previous AIADMK government at a cost of Rs 50,000 under the Jawahar Rozgar Yojana. When AIADMK panchayat union councillor Palanichamy was told of the Naickers' diktat, he ordered the Dalits to use the ghat.
Encouraged by this ``political backing'', some Dalit women ventured into the ghat last week, onlyto be threatened with sexual harassment and death. News of this spread like wildfire and indignant Dalit youths approached the nearby police station for justice.
But, as Kodumudi police inspector Muthu Nalliappan was on leave, the Naickers blocked the attempt to file an FIR against them, and, on the contrary, persuaded a sub-inspector to register a complaint by them.
- From: murari (@ 218.188.2.130)
on: Wed Aug 6 17:24:39 EDT 2003
I wonder why tevd!a magan's Tamilan-I and Madhu are silent.
- From: iarum (@ dup-200-64-191-49.prodigy.net.mx)
on: Wed Aug 6 20:17:27 EDT 2003
spoken like a true sudhra brahmana.
- From: real kaatan (@ 61.1.210.151)
on: Fri Aug 22 07:13:05 EDT 2003
fu the thevars
- From: real kaatan (@ 61.1.210.151)
on: Fri Aug 22 07:15:16 EDT 2003
fu the thevars
- From: karthi (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Sat Aug 23 06:33:43 EDT 2003
These are classical examples of this TAMIL game. In Sri Lanka too LTTE which is headed by a low caste Fisherman, used the CASTE card against the EPRLF when the IPKF was there.
EPRLF has its support base from Pallans and other low castes. LTTE's Christian leadeship always claim that they do not respect CASTE but practically JAFFNA Catholics always claim that they are HIGH castes.
All the TAMIL politics redicule Brahmans but they do all crimes on the basis of caste.
- From: Thamilan (@ 12.151.162.22)
on: Mon Aug 25 04:00:45 EDT 2003
Now karthi ka is trying to make the TTE in to a caste & religion based organization.
You Suckers tried everything else to divide us Thamilar but your magic didn’t work with us sanna boy.
How can I explain the unity of Thamilar in Illangai.
MMmm. First the so called fisher folks ( KarRar & Etc.. ) are helping the TTE to bring in weapons & supplies by sea, farming Folks ( Vella’s Etc.. ) are feeding the TTE & all of them are working for a common goal.
The TTE does not have a caste or religion. Charles Anthony was one of the first to give their life to our people. Now he has a regiment in his name.
Don’t you think without the unity if our people we could fend off a well equipped western trained army for 20 years and still be on the top and growing. Maybe Karthi Ka & co has a caste system that’s why they are not capable of doing anything right.
In future there shall be no caste system in Illangai & guess who helped for the communities to get together and make it a caste & religion less society, of course YOU dum Witts…
Thanks…………. …..
- From: karthi (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Mon Aug 25 05:38:00 EDT 2003
Hahahahaha
Janaka Perera chased the LTTE from Jaffna in three days. Military might of LTTE showedup there.
How is that?
If Tamils are united in Sri Lanka, why did LTTE kill more than 140 Tamils so far after LTTE signed a truce with the army and gave up Eelam?
If your LTTE has the support of the Tamils, why should they refuse to contest Elections and killing Tamils who oppose LTTE?
- From: Star (@ adsl-68-77-149-142.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)
on: Sun Oct 12 11:34:49
Testt.
- From: ? (@ 219.65.98.24)
on: Tue Oct 14 14:01:54 EDT 2003
kindly educate me on
THEVARS
REDDYS
MUDALIARS
CHETTIARS
NAINARS
THEVDARS
FODRIAS
CHAMARS
ETC ETC.
- From: Velan (@ 216.40.249.58)
on: Tue Oct 14 16:56:36 EDT 2003
I am sorry to say that I am Tamilian with such empty
drummers around. Certainly Sidha category of people will become slave of better people around. Govt. of Singapore is already sick with our fraud people around who travel from Chennai in the morning to Singpore, bring the theft goods, involve in short time crimes and come back late in the night to Chennai. These people are curse to Tamil heritage who have made it cheap everywhere.Again at Chennai Airport they are indulged in smuggling and huge corruption with custom officers who make 10 million Rupees everyday as bribes. There are two benefits
1) Chennai has become nerve centre of Indian smuggling and market for theft goods of Singapore.
2) Corruption and Foreign Exchange losses to the country to the tune of 500 million Rs. every day.
Besically all the Tamilians of Singapore are smugglers into India.
Tamilians of Indian origin are high level frauds worldwide indulged in all sort of illegal activities.
- From: Singapore's Education Ministry Launches CD Roms to teach Tamil (@ cache162.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Wed Oct 15 18:32:02 EDT 2003
Singapore's Education Ministry Launches CD Roms to teach Tamil
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/2002/03/01/stories/2002030102020500.htm
Singapore Ministry of Education web site
http://www1.moe.edu.sg/namnaadi
- From: Mas (@ gtw-11.nhs.uk)
on: Tue Oct 21 11:07:24 EDT 2003
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