Topic started by keeran (@ cust149.209.188.84.dial.tor.accessv.com) on Thu May 15 19:55:26 .
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The school, temple and iyakam are the three common organizations to which Eelam Tamils subscribe. School lead to strong communities, but local in nature and strength. Temples' ownership and organizational structure are vague, and can not present good model for secular organizations. LTTE is among the highly effective and accomplished organization in Eelam Tamils history.

The salient features of LTTE are the following:

*Strong Central Command
LTTE leadership has clear main goal - Eelam, and portray it self as strong, intelligent, and stable. It sets the overall schemes, and relies on sub-groups to complete their missions.

*High Degree of Coordination and Networking
LTTE branches throughout the world, and it uses advanced technology for coordination and networking.

*Disciplined
LTTE is known for not allowing their fighters to smoke, drink, or engage in sexual relationships while on duty; also they do not allow themselves to be captured by the enemy.

*Dynamic
LTTE leader is said to be highly responsive to changing conditions. Their ascending to power after two major setbacks (first by Indian Army, then capture of Jaffana) testify to this fact. This is in contrast to Tamil culture, which is a static and tradition bound.

*Mobile
LTTE fighters expect to move up the ranks solely due to their talents and experience, and that has been the case for long time.

LTTE strength is also its weakness. The unquestioned single leadership threatens to be dictatorial; its increasing bureaucracy, formalities, and elitism threatens to destroy its mobile, rebellious, and down to earth elements.

When Tamils organize a commercial corporation or non-profit organization the LTTE structure and success will be consciously or unconsciously reflected upon.

Having said that;
Is there any other Eelam Tamil or Tamil corporation or movement now that is intentionally known or functioning now?

Other than Dravida movements, are there any other modern movements that can match the LTTE's effectiveness or reach in modern Tamil history?

(I welcome all responses and comments.)

Responses:

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• From: Kotiya Paiyan (@ aca21328.ipt.aol.com) on: Thu May 29 00:17:50 EDT 2003
  
  Dear keeran thambi,
  
  I too agree that the LTTE model is the wave of the future. We can easily trace how democracy is totally inferior to "Eelamism." Let me give example. Here in US, Republican and Democrat parties have to win votes. In Tamil Eelam, whoever can shoot all his opponents first gets to become National Leader. Who can beat this system.
  
  In US, corporations likewise have to compete to sell their product. However, extortion and kidnapping is the Eelam economic model. Now you tell me which is a better way to raise money.
  
  Whole world must agree that LTTE is bringing the future. Just look at how well-developed Kilinochchi is. One glance at the landscape will tell you that this could never have been accomplished without the National Leader. May he be blessed by the Supreme God (who is also the National Leader).
  
  
• From: jegan (@ 202.52.194.185) on: Thu May 29 12:41:33 EDT 2003
  
  kotiya paiyan, whoever you are, the must understand the ground situation. However, you offend prabakaran, he has got the 90% backing of his people. You just have to communiacte with the tamil population of north & east.
  
  
• From: neo_morpheus (@ ppp-219.65.117.162.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Thu May 29 14:18:28 EDT 2003
  
  Kutti Paiyan!
  
  >>Here in US, Republican and Democrat parties have to win votes.>>
  
  Oh! is that so? I thought all one ever needed was a brother as governer of Florida and a friend as Supreme court Judge, to become the US President!
  
  BTW i have a small sugestion for you.why don't you 'sinhala erumais' make sure that ONLY a buddhist should occupy the post of PM/President in Srilanka, and more importantly NO christian should ever be allowed to become srilanka's PM or PM's advisor!!.....That would solve all the problems of all sinhala 'erumais'!!!
  
  
• From: lankapeace (@ 157.minneapolis-06rh15rt.mn.dial-access.att.net) on: Sun Jun 1 01:36:44 EDT 2003
  
  
  
  since when a Terrorist leader created a better world for fellow citizens?
  
  Remember, LTTE is banned in many countries since they are a Terrorist organization. They don't have the 90% backing of the people. During last election, LTTE backed parties got only less than 5%of Tamil votes. Keep day dreeming.
  
  
  http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/srilanka/profile.html
  
  
• From: AJ (@ on-tor-blr-a58-02-66.look.ca) on: Sun Jun 1 06:59:39 EDT 2003
  
  >>>During last election, LTTE backed parties got only less than 5%of Tamil votes<<
  
  Wow, In srilanka's proprtional representation electoral system 5% Tamil votes translated into 16 parliamentary seats (majority of seats in the Norh and East provinces). huh...
  Can you imagine if other 95% Tamils also voted, we might have got all the seats in the parliament under the proportional represenation system. Great math. Our "LANKAPIECE" IS A GENIUS.
  
  ps: where is in your link says 5% votes. I guess you made this up or pulled out of your hat Mr. LANKAPIECE.
  
  
• From: Thamilan (@ 12.151.162.22) on: Sun Jun 1 08:01:12 EDT 2003
  
  Haa Lanka Oh Lanka Piece
  
  “since when a Terrorist leader created a better world for fellow citizens?”
  
  Veerapandiya Katabomman, Veelayathu Servai, Ghandi, Chandraboss, ( Who were called terrorist by the british )
  
  Nelson Mandela ( Who was called by the Whites in South Africa as a terrorist )
  
  Timor ( The Indonesian Gov. called them Terrorist )
  
  G. Washington ( Was called by the British a terrorist )
  
  ( In the near future Velupillai Prabagaran – Who was called by the now not existing SL Gov. who destroyed themselves ( Not by the TTE ) Terrorist )
  
  We don’t mind Ermuai’s calling Prabagaran a terrorist since there where a lot of Terrorist who were called even Mahathma in the end. We just are waiting for time to repeat it self.
  
  And an another thing if you guys rig the vote ( Which we don’t give a Damn about ) its not our problem. Why did you leave the 5% you must have taken that also to your side and showed it that all ( 100% ) of the Illangai Thamilar Hate the TTE. We don’t mind. It’s your paper your pen you vote what ever you want and say what ever you want to say. We Thamilar are clear on what we want and who we want unlike you.
  
  So keep up the good work on disgracing yourself.
  
  And MMMMMMMMMMmmmaaaaaaaaaa
  
  
• From: Jaytamil (@ kln2-t3-2.mcbone.net) on: Sun Jun 1 20:07:40 EDT 2003
  
  "We Thamilar are clear on what we want and who we want unlike you."
  
  Yeah thamilan!We are clear! WE WANT TAMIL EELAM! and we would die for it!
  
  
• From: lankapeace (@ 133.minneapolis-10rh15rt.mn.dial-access.att.net) on: Tue Jun 3 01:56:00 EDT 2003
  
  "Yeah thamilan!We are clear! WE WANT TAMIL EELAM! and we would die for it!"
  
  Please do, go back and die for it. DOn't kidnap innocent poor Tamil kids and send them to war.
  
  
  Why Prabhakaran's kids don't wear the Cyanide capsule? Why he recently got them Sri Lankan passport (not the Elam one) so that they can get a better education in England.
  
  
  You have been deceived by your own people at gun point and did not achieve for you anything during the last 25 years. TOday, LTTE has burried over two million landmines in Jaffna.,,,,, talking about achievements.
  
  
  
  If you think LTTE are not terrorists, visit this none- LTTE sponsored web site.
  
  
  http://www.terrorismanswers.com/groups/tamiltigers.html
  
  
  
  None LTTE Tamil view about LTTE:
  http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/srilanka/profile.html
  
  
• From: lankapeace (@ 133.minneapolis-10rh15rt.mn.dial-access.att.net) on: Tue Jun 3 02:00:10 EDT 2003
  
  WHy LTTE supreme GOD is considered a criminal by Interpol?
  
  http://www.interpol.com/public/Wanted/Notices/Data/1994/54/1994_9054.asp
  
  I couldn't find Nelson Mandella or Ghandi there.
  
  Compared to Gandhi, Prabha is a blood thirsty animal.
  
  
• From: AJ (@ on-tor-blr-a58-03-1104.look.ca) on: Tue Jun 3 03:27:10 EDT 2003
  
  Hey Lankapiss,
  
  “I couldn't find Nelson Mandela or Ghandi there.”
  
  Are you living in some kind of cuckoo land? You can’t find Nelson Mandela and Gandhi in Interpol now. Gandhi is dead (long time ago), Nelson Mandela is a retired Statesman and a former Prime minister of SA. The point is Nelson Mandela, current Prime Minister Mbeki and many other African National congress leaders were in the Interpol’s list. Yasser Arafat and Fidel Castro were there also. You will never find Nelson Mandela or Gandhi in Interpol’s list now even if you beat the Google to death, you moron.
  
  "Compared to Gandhi, Prabha is a blood thirsty animal."
  
  Who compares Gandhi to Prabha? I think you do. I guess you dumbasss don't know anything about Gandhi either otherwise how can you compare Gandhi to Prabha. Thamilan was trying to tell you that "the British called Gandhi as a Terrorist".
  
  
  
• From: lankapeace (@ 189.minneapolis-10rh15rt.mn.dial-access.att.net) on: Wed Jun 4 01:34:02 EDT 2003
  
  Has any leader you mentioned have assesinated over 100 community leaders (including two heads of stages?).
  
  Just because british called Gandhi a Terrorist, does not mean that Prabha is not a Terrorist. Prabha is a killing machine. Prabha and co are still killing at least few Tamils per day.
  
  Most educated Tamils I meet are terrified to go back and live in Jaffna because of criminal LTTE gangs.
  
  
• From: AJ (@ on-tor-blr-a58-02-485.look.ca) on: Wed Jun 4 02:03:03 EDT 2003
  
  "Most educated Tamils I meet are terrified to go back and live in Jaffna because of criminal LTTE gangs."
  
  No kidding, eh!
  
  
  
  
• From: Thamilan (@ 12.151.162.25) on: Wed Jun 4 08:07:33 EDT 2003
  
  HHHhaaa aaaaaaaaa
  
  AJ i could not have said it better,
  
  To : Lanka Puss
  
  Of course you won’t find Gandi or Nelson Mandela in the Interpol files, Were are you living don’t you know that when Gandi yas around there was no such thing called the INTERNET WEB.
  
  “Please do, go back and die for it. DOn't kidnap innocent poor Tamil kids and send them to war.”
  Unlike you we are not afraid to go and fight for our land and if you call rescuing children from you kidnap then what do you call kidnapping.
  
  “Why Prabhakaran's kids don't wear the Cyanide capsule? Why he recently got them Sri Lankan passport (not the Elam one) so that they can get a better education in England. “.
  
  So how do you know that Prabagarans Children don’t wear Cyanide Capsules, and don’t tell me you are his personal assistant. Of course the Gov. gave them Passports hey the TTE did not ask for it. I wonder why the Gov. gave the so called Terrorist TTE Children passports. The British have banned the TTE ( That’s what they say) but they gave VISA to TTE members. So this should only mean that the TTE is a freedom fighting Org. Well Excepted by the international communities.
  
  Do you want us to fell jealous by saying that Prabagarans Children got the Visa , Sorry Sucker no such feelings( UNLIKE YOU ). If they Studied and grow up we will take it as the next generation growing with an education. It is not one person who will benefit from their education it will do good to all the Thamilar as a Community. At least the generation after this generation will live in freedom and pride.
  
  ”You have been deceived by your own people at gun point and did not achieve for you anything during the last 25 years. TOday, LTTE has burried over two million landmines in Jaffna.,,,,, talking about achievements.”
  
  You are correct on that point I must say that we have been deceived by the PLOTE, EPDP and Idiots who for petty favors have sold us to the SL Army and yes we will burry an another 10 million land mines next to your army camps so that we can achieve what we want to achieve.
  
  we all here know how educated you are we dont belive a educated Thamilan would have spoken to you.
  
  Gee Ha Hahhahhahahhaa
  
  Ok Sanna,
  
  Love you to….
  
  

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