Thamizh is mother of sanskrit and both share roots from sumerian
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Sanskrit is Tamizh `s Ha-thiruththam.
Thiru+mozhi,Thrimozhi,Thramizh,Thamizh
Etymologically it could be "hathiruth-hathrith-sathrith-sanskrith."
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I remember that i presented a paper on tamil grammar a merry go
round way back in1989 to IITS_Taramani Chennai.
Somehow the article was not published nor any communication received
to that effect.
Unfortunately i did not retain a copy of my research. But the logic
i developed i recollect now which is as follows.:
With 12 vowels and one neuter which is called as "ayutha
ezhuththu"and 18 consonents it is by far the first attempt to
systematise a language into the structured format.
vowels A consonent preceding"
even vowels can precede them.
ya=is formed by=A+i+a
The peculiarity of cha is that at any place other than the first in
a word it lightens to sa and preceding with another half consonent
ich it regains cha status.
Language learners in the formal education pattern are not fed with
good logic resulting in bad pronounciation which we often see.
kha/gha" as "¸·«' and with that eliminate the need for '‹' in the
script?
"¸·«'can be "¸·"and "ig"can be"·ì"."ghan"(musik)can be"¸·¬ý".it
could be "¸·¡ý" .
Like this we transliterate sanskrit text but my idea goes beyond
this.
Since sanskrit is a derived language from tamil i am in the order of
fixing sanskrit to tamil orgin not to attempt adapting tamil to
sanskrit as i told you that sanskri is a derived language.
I had already told you that we have to eliminate intermediate
consonents from sanskrit words and adopt tamil equivalent to prove
that the world is classical tamil or sumerian tamil.There may be
varients in the process of development cycle of sanskrit.
One thing comes to my mind is that rg veda could be a product of 1st
tamil sangam.
tamil and sankrit are now two school of thoughts emerging from their
mother sumerian tamil.While formulation of rg veda there might two
school of thoughts one to restrict phonetics to first order
consonents and second to elongate to intermediary order this also
the reason i believe that we can reduce sanskrit to its orginal
tamil form.
May be we are making some progress here that may lead into
understanding better how from the same basic phonology of Sumerian
the phonology of Sanskrit as different from it developed.
>The need to induce large volume of words into the vocabulary
could have resulted in thinkers of those days to extrapolate (ha)to
form multitude of permutations in the language and form a new
structural varient from sumerian tamil.
sanskrit and c.tamil should then share same roots for their
ancestors are same that is dravidians and not aryans.
Attempt towards this proposition ahs already started and let us hope
in the near future we will be able to substantiate this view.
Hi
I believe you may be right. Once we seriously look at
the role Sanskrit played as a link language in India,
and accept the fact that the Dravidians introduced a
literary tradition in India and Central Asia, then we
can realize the role Dravidian played in providing a
frame for the Sanskrit language.
It is interesting that the Pakistani scholars
appear to accept the Dravidian influence over their
languag, yet the Hindi speakers will not. I wonder
why??? Let us remember that Sanskrit was used to unite
Indian people, later it became the property of the
elites, who made it into a code to unite their class.
C.A. Winters
Since i find C.Tamil and Sanskrit to be two schools emanating
from sumerian Tamil .I tend to apply the logic that Sanskrit
produced the three higher order of consonent at a later stage when
it branched out of C.tamil in order to refine the language structure
with the advancvement of then civilization But both are /should have
been from the same stock of people but with different affiliation of
language development like todays microsoft/sunmicrosystam or
anyother.It is yet probed what were those compulsions that Three
higher orders became imperitive in the development cycle of Tamil.
Responses:
- From: kal-k (@ 82-43-98-165.cable.ubr09.croy.blueyonder.co.uk)
on: Tue May 4 07:57:36 EDT 2004
does it matter?
its a fu##ing language..........
yeah but why aren't you guys making any claims like SANSKRIT can?
according to the NEASDEN temple they quote that SANSKRIT has 70 words for water which then amalgamate into 280 different words when added with a pre-fix..........
these 70 words have not been derived from anyother language........
so then how can TAMIL have HAD ANY influence over SANSKRIT and the north?
you have to remember that the BORDERS of ARYA-VARTHA reached up to SIBERIA and across most of INDO-CHINA.........
the old lands not the recent ones like ANGOR WAT etc......MOHENJO DARO and the INDUS are all new sites.....
the SARASWATI site shows a continous momentum of life from 5000 bc all the way back to 2 million years ago.....
which coincides with the time KRSNA was called RAANCHOD when he left the battlefield to warn his people of the civilisation due to melting ice caps and the flooding off the rivers........
and even that site isn't part of the old land so you can imgaine how big ARYA VARTHA really was...
can TAMIL make any claims like that?
if so please enlighten the world, if not be humbled by the power of SANSKRIT and stop fighting it and go with the flow.............
i am sure TaMIL is just as beautifully refined...
SANSKRIT has 70 words for water and 65 words for Earth.
when added with a prefix these words for water then amalgamate to 280 words !!!!
no language in the world has such qualities!!!!
jai hind
om chanted through tonoscope produces Sri Yantra!!!
the seven chakras alligned together give the same pattern as the spark that ignites life into a computer......................
see articles on OM through tonoscope listed below.....
http://www.hyattcarter.com/path_of_sound.htm
http://www.isibrno.cz/~gott/mandalas.htm
http://home.mweb.co.za/sa/samten/jenny.htm
now do you guys understand why the NAZIS and the west want to keep Aryanism downtrodden and hidden away as theirs?
it is the coolest and most laid back religion, and way of life there is available amalgamating as many realms as possible as one............
green comes from blue and yellow
yellow and pink make orange......
welcome to the Geometric hallucination......
MAYA.....
eat this and swallow your pride..............
- From: kal-k (@ 82-43-98-165.cable.ubr09.croy.blueyonder.co.uk)
on: Tue May 4 08:09:38 EDT 2004
who remembers the GANESH miracle?
why hasn't it happened again if it was caused by either mass hysteria or capillary action....?
can anyone confirm what they saw?
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Tue May 4 15:00:26 EDT 2004
//Thamizh is mother of sanskrit and both share roots from sumerian//
WRONG!
Thamizh is mother of all languages! Sumerian Language must have originated from Thamizh as well as Sanskirit!
- From: Uthayamaran (@ 210-210-38-154.lan.sify.net)
on: Thu May 6 01:11:44 EDT 2004
To understand which will be the mother of all languages apart from etymology we need to understand from where the human race has originated? according to noam chomsky the famous linguistic there is a possibility that tamil will have a close relationship with the first spoken language. according to the written scriptures on stones the first one for sanskrit was around 150 AD. the tamil scriptures on stone has been found a long ago. Has anyone read PT Seenivasa Iyengar's History of Tamils?
the basics for Aryan Supremacy theory was lais by Max Muller the famous Germanian Linguistic. On that time the Harappan Civilizations has not been excavated. On his diary , during his last days he told that i did a very great mistake. Sanskrit cant be the mother languag3e.
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Mon May 17 16:03:38 EDT 2004
True and still many people on the Earth doesn't seem to put their eyes on Thamizh..since there isn't any Thamizh country. I believe it was Max Muller who found Sanskirit containing European language word origin but even then he thought that Sanskirit, Hebrew, Greek, Latin must have came from another source ...and I hope he understood it was Thamizh!
- From: unni (@ dialup-4.158.114.62.dial1.chicago1.level3.net)
on: Thu Jun 3 00:24:55 EDT 2004
Intuitively, Thamizh is the most intuitive of languages, it is just plain communicative, literary and language of law. I find that English has more affinity to Tamil just for the intuitive nature of the beautiful English. Both people' are also similar traits, English and the Tamils are craft oriented not bulshit oriented like the so called white skin fetishing northern bunch of estranged Indian folks - Tamil is so old and perfected that it gave plenty of support for variations and growth. I have a feeling Latin "ch" has roots in Tamil. It is now believed that most Indo-European, incl Sanskrit, its daughters Persian and Anatolian all have roots in some other language , the mother of it all. I have very little doubt that the darkies before the ice age, all looked the same and learned from the Dravidians., The ice age cometh and changed so many attributes of humans stranded in those norther and central asian parts of the world after Krsna left his business.
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