Topic started by Francesco Villani (@ utente128.sns.it) on Wed Feb 20 12:48:26 .
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Cuold anybody give me information on the maaNipravalam literature, in particular on the origins of this style both in tamiR and in malayalam?

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• From: prakash (@ hse-toronto-ppp311429.sympatico.ca) on: Wed Feb 20 13:32:00
  
  Francesco:
  
  Here's dome info on Manipravalam
  
  http://www.keralahistory.org/literarytradition.htm
  
  
• From: Srini (@ 61.11.72.44) on: Wed Mar 6 01:44:09
  
  Francesco:
  
  Vedanta Desigar, a stalwart of Sri Vaishnavism doctrine in Tamil Nadu, about 600 years back, wrote a few works in Manipravala tradition.
  
  In the following URL you could look at Section IV
  
  http://www.ramanuja.org/desika.html
  
  
• From: JayBee (@ 210.186.103.96) on: Mon Mar 18 18:55:12
  
  manipravaaLam has been discussed in Agathiyar, Tamil.net, and Forumhub itself, in the past.
  
  A search through the respective archives would be fruitful.
  
  
• From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68-0-198-105.ri.ri.cox.net) on: Thu Nov 20 16:45:55
  
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