Contribution of non-thamizh writers to thamizh Lit.

Topic started by Gokul on Fri Dec 3 10:10:18 .
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

Non-thamizh meaning writers whose mothertongue is not thamizh
but has contributed significantly to thamizh literature.
Names that immediately spring to my mind are the late Poet AthmAnAm and
Dilip Kumar.

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From: vAssan (@ cc730498-a.squoia1.nm.home.com) on: Thu Sep 6 18:07:15

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From: Vishvesh Obla (@ 63.65.68.246) on: Thu Sep 6 16:29:24

There have been a few poets in Sourashtra language who have
contributed significant contributions in Tamil. I was reading some
works of a saint called Nadana Gopala Nayagi swamigal.
He was also a composer and has written beautiful verse in
sourashtra language. His occasional attempts in Tamil language are
equally delightful too:

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They have a distinct sourashtra flavor which gives them a kind of
charm in Tamil. This flavor is a distinct feature of the short stories
of Venkatram
From: eraMurukan (@ dialpool-210-214-133-129.maa.sify.net) on: Thu Sep 6 19:58:06

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From: Vishvesh Obla (@ 63.65.68.246) on: Fri Sep 7 11:34:27

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Well, Got to work too ! ¬¿—º‘ê …´±þÆ‘´±Ö ‡òî ŠÏ œÜÍÆÅ !
From: Vishvesh Obla (@ 63.65.68.246) on: Fri Sep 7 13:26:40

Sorry, somehow or other i am having trouble with tamil fonts. Let me try to set my above posting right:

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Well, Got to work too ! ¬¿—º‘ê …´±þÆ‘´±Ö ‡òî ŠÏ œÜÍÆÅ !
From: eraMurukan (@ dialpool-210-214-133-207.maa.sify.net) on: Fri Sep 7 20:51:12

«ýÒûÇ Å¢‰§Å‰,

±õ.Å¢.Å£¨Â µÃõ ¸ðÊò¾¡ý Å¢ð¼¡÷¸û. «Å¨Ãô ÀüÈ¢, «ÅÃ¢ý ±ØòÐì¸¨Çô ÀüÈ¢ ¿¢¨ÈÂô §ÀºÄ¡õ. §Àº §ÅñÎõ. ±ý «Õ¨Á ±Øò¾¡Ç ¿ñÀ÷ (Á¨Èó¾) ¾ï¨º À¢Ã¸¡‰, ¸Å¢»÷ ÃÅ¢ÍôÃÁ½¢Âý Å¡Â¢Ä¡¸ ±õ.Å¢.Å¢Â¢ý ¬Ù¨Á ÀüÈ¢ ¿¢¨ÈÂì §¸ðÊÕì¸¢§Èý. ¸¨½Â¡Æ¢ì¸¡¸ «Å¨Ãô §ÀðÊ ¸¡½§ÅñÎõ ±ýÚ ¿ñÀ÷ Ã¡õƒ¢ ¸¨½Â¡Æ¢ ¬º¢Ã¢ÂÃ¡¸Å¢Õó¾§À¡Ð (1996-97) ÓÂý§È¡õ. ÓÊÂ¡Áø §À¡ÉÐ.

Å¢Ã¢Å¡É ¸Ê¾õ ±ØÐ¸¢§Èý..Â¢í§¸Ôõ À½¢Â¢ý «¨ÆôÒò¾¡ý ;-)
From: (@ 129.81.206.10) on: Sat Oct 6 03:37:03

http://www.intamm.com/vanavil/history.htm
From: mani (@ host62-7-40-47.btinternet.com) on: Sun Oct 7 03:00:38

How about Veeramamunivar ( Beschi) , the European Missionary who learnt Tamil in his thirties, gained such a mastery over the language that he was able to write a poetic work onthe life of Jesus ,Thembavani ?
From: Madhurabarathi (@ proxy3-external.frmt1.sfba.home.com) on: Tue Nov 6 21:30:05

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From: (@ h66-59-174-253.gtconnect.net) on: Mon Nov 26 12:31:55

There used to be a popular poet in SL named Memon Kavi. He belonged to a miniscule minority of Shia Muslims from Pakistan (Memons or Meo) who learnt Tamil in SL and eventually became a celebrated poet.
From: (@ 129.81.216.123) on: Mon Nov 26 13:33:29

«Å÷ þÄí¨¸-¦¸¡ØõÀ¢§Ä§Â À¢ÈóÐ ÅÇ÷ó¾Å÷. ±ñÀÐ¸Ç¢§Ä (§Áò¾¡ À¡½¢Â¢ø) À¢ÃÀøÂÁ¡ÉÅ÷. ¦¸¡ØõÒ ³óÐ þÄ¡õÒîºó¾¢Â¢§Ä ¸¨¼ ¨Åò¾¢Õó¾¡÷.
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«ÅÃ¢ý Ò¨¸ôÀ¼ò¨¾ þí§¸ Eelam_LitArt_Arch þý Ò¨¸ôÀ¼îÍÅÊÂ¢§Ä ¸¡½Ä¡õ.
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_2621119/mEman+Kavi.jpg?bctv9A8AQ.StZ5iy
From: . (@ 129.81.216.123) on: Mon Nov 26 13:34:26

italics become straight.... or not??
From: . (@ 129.81.216.123) on: Wed Nov 28 17:08:40

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