Tholkaappiyam: recommendations, anyone?
Topic started by DangerKid (@ 202.9.180.100) on Mon Jul 17 07:31:17 .
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Am sorry to start a whole thread for this question, but I couldn't see where else I could fit this one in.
I'm planning on buying a copy of the Tholkaappiyam (So that I can learn thamiz grammar from *the source*, heh, heh) with an English translation (me thamiz's not so good) and the original thamiz text. Could anyone recommend a book? I live in Chennai. Can I get such a book at HigginBotham's?
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- From: DangerKid (@ 202.9.180.100)
on: Mon Jul 17 07:42:06 EDT 2000
Also, I am a beginner(wrt thamiz grammar et al.) who does not know his na from his Na yet. So which book in the market is suitable for me. Thanks in advance.
- From: Pasupathy (@ pas.dialup.cs.toronto.edu)
on: Mon Jul 17 08:50:30 EDT 2000
If you are a beginner with Thamizh grammar, TholkAppiyam is not the best book to start with..
There are many books available which start you off in a very nice, gentle way..like, "naRRamizh ilakkaNam" by Dr.co.paramasivam ...Best to invest some time, go to Higgenbothams, Vanathi etc and choose one you like...There is a book in
English too , " A Grammar of Contemporary Literary Tamil" by pon.kOthaNdarAman ( In. Inst of Tamil Studies, tharamaNi, Adyar.) ( i have not read the latter, so don't know if it is good. But there are only a few English books on Tamil grammar...) There are also a series of Grammar books("ilakkaNa viLakkam") by K. rAjagOpAlaccariyAr , Star Pub, available from Higgenbothams which are very good...
- From: DangerKid (@ 202.9.182.62)
on: Mon Jul 17 14:00:21 EDT 2000
But I don't want to learn the grammar of contemporary tamil. Classical tamil would be more like it, i think. What I want to do is to read poems such as those of the paththuppaattu, and be able to understand them. What books will help me do this? Do your recommendations still hold good?
- From: Pasupathy (@ pas.dialup.cs.toronto.edu)
on: Mon Jul 17 21:02:39 EDT 2000
1. My recommendations still hold good. Esp the last series of 5 or 6 books 'ilakkaNa viLakkam'
2. There is a translation of TholkAppiyam in English.by Prof IlakkuvanAr. You can see if it is
available, if you really want it still.
3. After all this, you still need to buy some well-written guides for the sangam literature you want. There are many published by various publishers. Search the Tamil publishers listed in
www.intamm.com . Just knowing the grammar will not be enough to appreciate the nuances; we need good 'guides'. e.g. ki.vA. jagannAthan has written simple introductions to many ancient literatures. silamboli cellappan, ku.rAjavElu,
Prof.RAmanujam, George Hart ..the list is endless.
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on: Mon Jul 17 21:47:28 EDT 2000
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- From: DangerKid (@ 203.197.243.48)
on: Mon Jul 17 22:58:35 EDT 2000
Was impressed by the extra-ordinary amount of information supplied by way of recommendation and guidance.
Chandra, you seem to confuse me with dravid (Though you /do/ say kedudhikkuzavi), and I never posted venbas on this forum(Though I /have/ tried my hand at their composition sometime). Thanks for the huge post! I'm going to get at the books you recommended right away.
- From: gdravid (@ mail.smart20.com)
on: Tue Jul 18 10:53:14 EDT 2000
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- From: ¦À.ºó¾¢Ã§º¸Ãý/Chandra (@ rr-165-122-161.atl.mediaone.net)
on: Tue Jul 18 22:36:27 EDT 2000
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- From: ¦À.ºó¾¢Ã§º¸Ãý/Chandra (@ rr-165-122-161.atl.mediaone.net)
on: Tue Jul 25 22:34:03 EDT 2000
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