Virumaandi - A non-fanatic view
Topic started by Lennon (@ 61.11.77.16) on Mon Jan 19 02:28:58 EST 2004.
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it's sad. that for a guy who takes such great pains in making movies, and sticking to the minutest of film-making details, Kamal Haasan fails again as a director. terrific characterisation, crisp dialogues, brilliant performances, you name it and you get it. But only in parts. on the whole, there's only one way to describe "Virumaandi". And that's BAD. Sounds familiar? Well, think "Hey Ram!"
For a movie which sermonises about death penalty's ingenuities, this is perhaps the most violent movie ever made in these parts of the world! limbs are chopped in glee, the hero twists his finger into the villain's neck and triggers a gory gush of blood. the heroine's suicide is shown in its all-disturbing freakiness. now to the familiar territory - one absolutely pointless sequence of scenes where the hero and heroine indulge in copulation in true kamal fashion. (there are lewd suggestions to the act being similar to "jallikkattu"! the scene ends with the hero grabbing the heroine from behind. yeah you know what! in one scene in the darkness, the hero turns his torch to the two flanks of a sari-less heroine's chest). did someone say realistic? well, then what's wrong with "Boys"?!
there's absolutely nothing in the movie which backs the claim against death penalty. it's just a gory celebration of the killing culture. the biggest joke is virummandi, after killing all and sundry like a game, coming to the studio and getting misty-eyed about annalakshmi. so what's the freakin' point? virumaandi takes revenge for his wife's killing by killing the culprits. he can take the eye-for-an-eye route. no problem. but when judiciary does the same thing, it shouldn't be accepted??? what a joke, man!
on the plus side, there's pasupathy as the vilain, in a stunningly original performance. watch out for this guy. subtle nuances to characters and situations - from peykaaman (spell check), the cop who tries to impress the journalist with his english to the squeaky-voiced advocate to the kid who keeps yelling "maappillai!"... there are more. one brilliantly conceived song sequence on the moon-lit roads. well-etched out riot scenes. a movie which has so many good things happening for it, it's sad that the end product turns out bad, just because of kamal haasan's same old problem. of himself and the excesses.
though i have problems against kamal haasan's self-promoting intellectual aspirations and his loud style of acting (yeah, there's a yelling-wailing scene in this one too), i've always wanted his movies to do well at the box-office, for his sheer commitment to his profession and his undying passion for cinema. i got to see "Virumaandi" in coimbatore, second day (at Shanthi). and i got tickets for two without reservation. for all the lies kamal sycophants like madan are spreading across TV, it's going to be a huge flop. and i hope this proves the "speedbreaker" which KB advised kamal. it's high time this great script writer stayed off direction, turn to someone competent enough for the job and give us something like "Thevar Makan", his last brilliant movie, which happened 11 years ago.
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- From: Tamizharasan (@ wwwgate1.motorola.com)
on: Mon Feb 9 11:11:45 EST 2004
Dear Shadotcom
I saw the Hindu link and it says Satyanarayana instructed and not Rajini. I could not open the vikatan link. Anyway PMK should be defeated for making bad remarks on Rajini. Thanks for the link
Kajan
thanks for your reply and I saw your review in the other thread. In fact I have seen that movie also last Friday. Will discuss with you in detail in the other thread later
Roshan
Soukiyama?
- From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198)
on: Mon Feb 9 11:40:51 EST 2004
Prabakar;
>>I guess fans are least bother about it for the time being<<
Except me, I am very much bothered about his NEXT film & least bothered about his Politics, as I am a Sri Lankan :))
I have not seen virumandi, yet, waiting for the Orginal Video / VCD to come out, I will post a NON -fanatical view!
Vatta
- From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198)
on: Mon Feb 9 11:41:25 EST 2004
Dear all,
How did Basha do in SL?
thanks
- From: prabakar (@ bbcache-12.singnet.com.sg)
on: Tue Feb 10 09:11:06 EST 2004
Raghu
Agree as you may not be interested in TN politics, but Rajini not going to announce his film before election so need to wait. Anything will be known only after Hari completes Arul or KSR completes 'Ethiri' or Dharani completes 'Gilli' as there are lot of speculation as to who will be directing his next moive, perhaps his last movie.
However, in the mean time it would be the right time that Rajini give indirect support to his fans to carry out the mission to defeat PMK so that politicians wont interfere in Cinema matters which will be good for the industry.
- From: prabakar (@ bbcache-11.singnet.com.sg)
on: Tue Feb 10 09:12:56 EST 2004
Shadotcom, Thanks for your posting. Are you the same shajahan(Rajinifans.com) because you said //thalaivar
is reaching India tomorrow (09.02.04) from USA so mostly Telugu version will be
released next week. //
- From: prabakar (@ bbcache-12.singnet.com.sg)
on: Tue Feb 10 09:17:27 EST 2004
Roshan thanks. Perhaps the review should have been posted here.
- From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198)
on: Tue Feb 10 11:45:10 EST 2004
Dear Prabakar,
I was just joking about TN politics, but on a serious notes, politics are dirty and I tend to stay away from that.
any way, regarding Rajni's next movie, if you find any info, PLEASE do let me know in advance, cos last time for baba's release, in London, I had to wait 3 weeks to get the ticket, but next time, I am going to reserve the ticket 3 months in advance :)), so that me & my friends,can go to the first show of Super*'s next film, sit on the first row , and whistle & clap, when the 'Super Star' title appears on the screen with the background music of 'Hey Hey', (thanks to Deva)!
Oh boy, Can not wait for that :))
Ok, I act like an imature kid only when Super*'s films are released :)))
- From: bala (@ 164.164.48.51)
on: Tue Feb 10 23:35:43 EST 2004
Rajini may retire from Film Industry. Because In Tamilnadu People are becoming intelligent. So In future his films doesnot become a hit movie
- From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198)
on: Wed Feb 11 07:45:03 EST 2004
Bala;
When ppl like u involve Politics with Entertainment, ppl their will never become intelligent!
R u saying Rajni films are only hits, due to his political comments?, oh Plzzzzzzzzzz
- From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198)
on: Wed Feb 11 07:45:23 EST 2004
Bala;
When ppl like u involve Politics with Entertainment, ppl there will never become intelligent!
R u saying Rajni films are only hits, due to his political comments?, oh Plzzzzzzzzzz
- From: bala (@ 164.164.48.51)
on: Wed Feb 11 23:42:14 EST 2004
Both Politics and Entertainment are entirely different. Because for Movie, they have to spend money.
when baba released in chennai, Tickets are sold at Rs.100(on opening day). But nobody wants to see. Then they reduced the rate on second day and finally heavy loss to Distributors.
But for virumandi, tickets were sold upto Rs.300.
That's what I say Now Ppl doesn't want to see Rajini film.
- From: prabakar (@ bbcache-11.singnet.com.sg)
on: Thu Feb 12 09:55:29 EST 2004
Thanks for your intelligent analysis!!!. Very much appreciated.
- From: LLd (@ 202.172.246.7)
on: Fri Feb 13 00:21:22 EST 2004
This election is going to be war between 'Castist Kandravis Vs Visiladichn Kunjuhal'.. Whoever wins it's going to be a shame to tamils.
The Vaks of Karntaka-born actor just helping his statemate viz prostitute turned Actress turned CM to win the election..
- From: prabakar (@ bbcache-15.singnet.com.sg)
on: Fri Feb 13 10:22:38 EST 2004
In a way it would still help that it eliminated a castist from the future election fray.
Let this super human contest in all six constituency and win if he so bother about 'prostitute turned Actress turned CM to win the election' as quoted by him
- From: LLd (@ bbcache-9.singnet.com.sg)
on: Fri Feb 13 20:10:11 EST 2004
Below are the two messages posted in Soppra Star Group by two of the Vaks.. (any copyright??)
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I am not a fan of Vijayakanth. But i think if both Vijakanth and
our Thalaivar join hands, they can win all the 40 seats in Tamil nadu for sure.
If this happens,
1. our tamil nadu has a very good chance that corruption will be wiped off.
2. Education will improve.
3. Caste based politics will be demolished once for all.
4. This will be an example for other states to follow and India has a chance to
prosper more.
5. Poverty will decline because the goverment's money will reach even the
poorest of the poor.
These are not just sentences. This is infact an analysis of the situation.
What do you say guys?
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We hope that Rajni sir and vijayakanth will join hands and start a party. If this happens, its a dream come true for Tamil nadu. We know both our SS and vijayakanth are not corrupt and they can do the best and they will do their best in the coming months and years
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Uruppita Mathirithan......
- From: LLd (@ 202.172.246.7)
on: Fri Feb 13 22:02:40 EST 2004
1)how a 'Kanja Kudukki' and a 'Pig' can wipe off Corruption? (first ask them not to increase ticket price which affects their own vaks)
2)I don't know how these would improve the education system. Oh!! They will introduce subjects like how to smoke, how to paranthu adikirathu defying the newtons law..and surely the vaks would get 100% marks and our educational system will improve.. g8
3)Yes, Caste will be demolished except Telugu Naidus and Karnataks SC.
4)Please don't say that if you happen to be outside TN , Other state fellas will spit you on your face.
5) Money will be reached to the Poorest of Poor. But only the poorest of poor tag would be given to Pannikanth and Kanjakuduki and their Vaks
//We know both our SS and vijayakanth are not corrupt //
I dont know how someone who has never been in Power and never been atleast a Govt.employee is termed as Corrput-free. They have been not given chance to do corrupt.
- From: LLd (@ 202.172.246.7)
on: Fri Feb 13 22:07:03 EST 2004
//In a way it would still help that it eliminated a castist from the future election fray//
Yes. to wipe off the castiest force, you support Cinematic idiots and to wipe off Ciematic idiots, then support castiest.?? can' t you think there would be another way supporting others who aren't cinamtic as well as castiest
- From: prabakar (@ bbcache-9.singnet.com.sg)
on: Fri Feb 13 22:41:48 EST 2004
What's the other way? There is always a big gap between what you wish and what is practically possible. My quote is just a process of elimnation, the outcome is we are not sending a castist to the Parliment and from your prespective MPs from those constituencies are not from Cinema, be happy about it. This just like encouraging PChidambaram by Fans vote, which is what you wanted but as you can see the approach is same.
If want to further continue please open another thread on this same old topic and seek for response. It would not be fair to discuss it in this thread in detail.
- From: Baba (@ 203.76.163.3)
on: Sat Feb 14 00:27:31 EST 2004
Hey guys!..........
Get lost from here, this is about VIRUMANDI..... not about other PANNIKUTTI's...........
Change the thread
- From: prabakar (@ bbcache-14.singnet.com.sg)
on: Sun Feb 15 09:40:00 EST 2004
// not about other PANNIKUTTI's........... //
Here is another Ramadoss.
- From: BRUCE (@ dsl-80-46-183-100.access.uk.tiscali.com)
on: Sun Feb 15 12:58:27 EST 2004
VIRUMANDIYIL VIRUMANDI KUND I KATTIYIRUKKARA?
- From: rery3y6ergstw (@ 61.1.202.62)
on: Mon Feb 16 05:08:06 EST 2004
VIRUMANDIYIL VIRUMANDI, KUND I KATTIYIRUKKAR, yes athaavathu VIRUMANDIYIL VIRUMANDI,('BRUCE'oda ) KUND Iya KATTIYIRUKKAR
- From: Rahul (@ nd-w5.wipro.com)
on: Sun Feb 22 12:33:59 EST 2004
Virumaandi - A non-fanatic view ---- whoever was this idiot who gave this article on Virumandi is a waste and man of no taste. Its such a wonderful movie with a lovely message in it......guess people need to have some kind of a taste in life.
- From: nothing (@ 202.187.202.34)
on: Sat Feb 28 03:13:29 EST 2004
virumandi is a super hit movie --says cinesouth.com. So it is going to be dubbed in Telegu very soon.
Check cinesouth.com
- From: kp (@ dsl-80-46-152-131.access.uk.tiscali.com)
on: Sat Feb 28 13:23:19 EST 2004
chiru leads the most popular superstar race
http://sify.com/movies/tamil/top10.php?cid=13380920
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