Hindu's survey on actors!!!
Topic started by Vishnu (@ 61.11.85.187) on Thu Nov 6 02:00:26 EST 2003.
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did anyone see the results of the survey conducted by The Hindu, on the most popular actors in chennai???? rajini, as expected, leads the pack with 19 per cent. vijay is second with 12. but the surprise packets are MGR and sivaji, at the third slot, both with 10 per cent each!! ajit and vikram are next (9 per cent) and kamal is last in the list (8 per cent). among actresses, it's simran on top. next is sneha. check out the Hindu metro plus on november 4. it comes under the "metromonitor" section.
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- From: raghu (@ 62.172.72.131)
on: Fri Nov 14 08:03:50 EST 2003
Tamizharasan,
>>Talentwise Vijay can be compared only with great actors like Prashanth, Simbu, Ramarajan and not but least T.Rajendar. Comparing Vijay with actors like Sivaji and Kamal would be like insulting Vijay. And look wise Vijay can be compared only with great looking guys like Rajendar, Simbu and Rajkiran. Comparing his look with guys like Kamal would be an insult to Vijay.
Am I clear?<<
Very funny indeed, but please leave this thread, I am not going to post here, Tamizharasan, we should keep our dignity!
any way, I have not seen your post for a while, where have u been ??
- From: Tamizharasan (@ wwwgate31.motorola.com)
on: Fri Nov 14 10:47:54 EST 2003
Raghu
I post less these days but still visit this forum. I really can't take it when somebody is praising vijay so much and that too comparing with Rajini regarding acting. I think these people have not seen Rajini't earlier movies. On top of that Vijay is such a poor imitator of Rajini. Even with that they are placing him above Rajini. Nothing to say except to appreciate their knowledge and taste. I visited this thread just for fun nothing else. I will be out of this thread now.
- From: Joe (@ sbproxy2.mystarhub.com.sg)
on: Fri Nov 14 13:20:42 EST 2003
Tamizharasan,
be cool friend.
Raghu,
I can understand your concern.At the same time you must understand no poll will give you the real answer.This poll is taken only in chennai city.It cannot be considered for the whole TN.If it is whole TN,it might be a surprise for you,may be MGR and sivaji gets more percentage..But you can't get the whole senerio from this kind of polls.This poll asked for only one option..For example consider me.If they ask me I would say ,it is sivaji.But in reality I admire kamal almost same length and rajini and vikram to some extend and others no way in the picture .considering you,you will choose Rajini,but you like sivaji and kamal to some extend.these things will not refelect in this poll...take this poll itself..Rajini got 19%..do you think only 19% of the audience love to watch rajini,I think it should be more,but may be rajini is secons choice..even for many MGR fans,their second choice is none other than sivaji..so it doesn't refelect the correct support.
- From: Kavitha (@ 131.107.3.79)
on: Fri Nov 14 20:08:32 EST 2003
It's really hard to believe that Vijay is ahead of MGR, Kamal & Vikram in Chennai. Some times polls reflect the truth, sometimes it doesn't. It's really hard to tell. Instead of going by polls it's better to go by the facts...
- From: ITZME (@ ls12.internode.on.net.au)
on: Fri Nov 14 20:57:07 EST 2003
Not only in Chennai in many other places Vijay is ahead of everyone.
Polls are the facts that reflect people's opinion, not websites or papers which support a particular actor and even try to down others who they don't like.
- From: INTELLIGENCE (@ ls12.internode.on.net.au)
on: Fri Nov 14 20:57:57 EST 2003
Not only in Chennai in many other places Vijay is ahead of everyone.
Polls are the facts that reflect people's opinion, not websites or papers which support a particular actor and even try to down others who they don't like.
- From: LLDasu (@ bbcache-15.singnet.com.sg)
on: Fri Nov 14 21:58:11 EST 2003
we can not define 'Beauty' or Handsome.. It differs person to person. To me Young Rajini is better than Vijay..Vijay is atleast Ok in the recent Thirumalai..
Actingwise, Rajini's acting in Old movies were much much more better than Vijay..He even acted better than classic actor like Kamal.
To compare the acting skills, if we take the Psyco charcter, almost everybody acted. Rajini in 'Avargal, '3 mudichu', Kamal in 'Guna', "Alavanthan'.., Vikram in Sethu, Dhanush in KK. their acting were excellent. Even Prabhu acted better in "China Thambi' rather than any other charcter. Why 2 yrs old Shamili acted very well in Anjalai. But the only actor who sucked as 'Psyco' character is none other than Vijay in 'Kannukkul Nilavu' even though he was acting under Fazil direction(who was famous to make to act a smal children).
- From: Prathap (@ pulteney-pix.border.net.adelaide.edu.au)
on: Fri Nov 14 23:42:56 EST 2003
I agree everyone acts and acted better in pyshco character(except Vijay). Why is that????
- From: Prathap (@ pulteney-pix.border.net.adelaide.edu.au)
on: Sat Nov 15 01:17:59 EST 2003
What is the problem with u ppl? Why r u guys after Vijay? Is that bcos u couldn't digest his massive growth?
How can u except MGR & Sivaji to be in top in that poll? For ex I'm just 20 and i have hardly seen any MGR films(just only one "Anbe Vaa"). And i also have seen only about less than 10 Sivaji films. And thats the case with many youngsters, and in those polls young ppl count more amount not people over 60 or 70. So they will not vote for MGR & Sivaji. But thats indeed gr8 to see that MGR & Sivaji r in 3rd and 4th even at this time. So u must be proud for that.
And don't just blame Vijay on his acting. He did really well in his earlier movies like "Kadhalukku Mariyathey" , "Priyamudan", "Thullatha Manamum Thullum", "Kushi",... Thats why he has got such a massive fanfollowing.
Of course he did a mistake by started to imitate Rajni from "Bhagavathy"(He didn't imitate Rajni till "Youth"). Thats why his movies also didn't do very well after that unlike his earlier movies.
U can't expect everyone to be perfect. Everyone does mistakes Rajni, Kamal... Vijay will realise his fault and will do better in his future movies.
And why r u ppl comparing him with the gr8s like Kamal and Sivaji in acting. Does everyone has to be gr8 actors like them. Why can't one be a mass entertainer like Rajni(Rajni didn't much bother about acting like Kamal, but he wanted to entertain his fans and ppl).
We watch cinema as a media for entertainment so there's nothing wrong in an actor trying to be a mass entertainer. And there's nothing wrong in actors like Kamal.. doing experimental ones and it shows kamal's gr8ness.
Of course u can compare Vijay with his competitors like Vikram and Ajith. But think how long it took for Vikram to get a recognition and to prove his worthness (nearly 12 years, added to that Vikram in those 12 years acted with some so called gr8 directors like Sridhar, Vikraman,P.C. Sriram.. but still he wasn't recognised).
Vijay is now stepping into his 11 th year in cine field. So there's lot more to come
Vikram now has certainly proved his acting talents. Vijay will also prove his potential in near future probably with his next movie Gilli.Vijay is trying to follow Rajni's way but I accept that he must not imitate Rajni as he did earlier b4 Bhagavathy.
And one can't deny that Kamal is more talented than anyone(than Rajni too). The poll isn't who is the most talented actor? but who is ur favourite actor. So it is a known fact that kamal will not be the first.
U can understand that from the flops like Anbe Sivam, Alavandhaan..
Whereas Vijay's crap movie like Bagavathy(The most i hate in Vijay's movies after 1998) did very well, indeed a hit.
And Rajni's so called worse movie like Baba did extremely well even better than Padayappa.
I am also worried to know that Kamal is 7 th in the poll. But thats the case in many places in India. I am not an Indian but i guess so from these news and from movie results.
But in foriegn countries thats not the case, Kamal for sure will not be so low. And in foriegn countries too Vijay will be probably next to Kamal and Rajni bcos he got so much fanfollowing from his earlier movies like "Kadhalukku Mariyathey", "Priyamudan",......which contains some classic movies(Kadhalukku Mariyathey) and entertainers.
And don't underestimate any actors. And don't compare Vijay with gr8s like Kamal, Rajni..who has acted in more than 200 and 150 films respectively and in the cine field for more than 25 years. Vijay has acted in just 37 films and he will do certainly better in his future movies.
- From: Nakkeeran (@ 61.11.80.245)
on: Sat Nov 15 01:39:07 EST 2003
if a non-acting wonder like vijay has such rabid fans, gosh! tamil cinema is staring at armageddon!
coming back to the poll, it off-the-mark in many respects. here is my humble assessment of the scene. in terms of popularity, kamal comes second after rajni, though he'll be a very very distant second. vikram should come in as a close third. i don't see any competition to these three in the close vicinity.
vijayakant is still king in villages and even his crappiest movies make money there. vijay, an actor almost as bad as vijayakant, can boast of a sound fan base in the B and C centres, apart from the lower class teenagers in cities. same goes with ajit, but i guess he should be more popular than vijay in the cities. surya and madhavan are more popular among the classes, especially among city-bred girls. the dark horse could be dhanush, but i guess we should give more time for him before catapulting him to the heights of an aspiring superstar. and the unsung hero would be arjun, whose movies aren't blockbusters but continue to make decent dough at the B-O. further, he's one of the few who have survived, ala vikram.
so in a nutshell, vikram is perhaps the only potential star after rajni, who can be equally popular with the classes and masses. kamal may not be having many sycophants and blind fans as his supporters. his movies may not be making big money. but if you look past the "fan culture", he's still very very popular among people who can differentiate between the good and the bad.
my list:
1. rajnikant
2. kamal haasan
3. vikram
4. vijayakant
5. ajit
6. vijay
7. dhanush
8. surya
9. madhavan
10. arjun
- From: kdot (@ ppp-219.65.112.90.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Sat Nov 15 03:34:13 EST 2003
that "hindu" survey is nothing but CRAP.
leave alone the actors. jus see the fav. films.
"thiruda thirudee" scoring over kaaka kaaka,kaadal konden and other bunch lot of gud movies shows that this kinda suvey must not be taken too seriously
- From: Someone (@ ls12.internode.on.net.au)
on: Sat Nov 15 21:42:57 EST 2003
Hey idiot nakkeran ur f*cking list has nothing to do ok. If u want u can keep Simbu in the first place ahead of all others. That doesn't matter to anybody. I mean ur f*cking opinion doesn't matter to anyone. Look at the poll it shows the view of a lot of people in a whole. Ok. U psycopath. Shut ur mouth and a** and get lost.
I think u r also from the third class crap ppl.
- From: Someone (@ ls8.internode.on.net.au)
on: Sat Nov 15 22:18:13 EST 2003
Whom do u think Rajni fans r? The same 3rd class ppl from B& C centres and ppl even worse than them slum workers.... He has the worst fanfollowing than any other actor among classes.
In foriegn countries he doesn't have any fans among classes at all.
- From: sara (@ 202.88.154.119)
on: Mon Nov 17 06:57:48 EST 2003
There is no need to worry abt that survey.Only 210 people only participated in it.So leave it
- From: raghu (@ 62.172.72.131)
on: Tue Nov 18 04:25:23 EST 2003
Joe,
Thanks for the clarification, but I have not had responce form you for my email, do reply, when time permitts.
thanks
- From: Nakkeeran (@ 61.11.79.163)
on: Thu Nov 20 00:14:38 EST 2003
someone, as your name suggests you yourself don't have a clue about yourself. same goes with what you post here. about your take on classes and masses, your very language points to where you are from. with "classes" like you intact, rest assured that vijay continues with his terrific performances and great movies. all the best.
- From: sanju (@ pngfwpr02.png.intel.com)
on: Sat Oct 23 03:55:42
i love simbu
- From: ss (@ 202.142.106.175)
on: Mon Oct 25 23:17:41 EDT 2004
ajith always the best
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