Topic started by Me (@ 203.212.144.37) on Sat Jan 25 16:04:58 .
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1) The hansome kamal in 6 months looking like he is 80 years old and wearing thick glasses which even the oldest man on the planet wouldn't even use.

2) Kamal who struggles to look after himself gets send to pick up money in the millions.

3) Kiran seems to be running around with a mobile phone and mixing with kamal's friends. Everybody in the union knows kamal is alive...they sent him to pick up big amount of money....kiran couldn't even make a phone call to them....or what type of friends don't ring their friend and leader's girl friend to tell her he is fine...???

4) There is a train accident, the train behind it will never be taken close to the train in front. It wouldn't go within a Kilo meter. But in the movie it gets taken right behind it.

5) A little boy is fighting for his life...they park their van and have a cup of tea which is the funny part of it. In this day and age...Plus so many people injured but they are taking only one patient in an ambulance. Where is the helicopter to air lift the injured????

Please write in if I missed any...I have a feeling I did.

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• From: Rasigan (@ gicout5.gic.gi.com) on: Thu Jan 30 14:54:47
  
  apart from small mistakes in the movie the biggest mistake kamal made was, he made the movie for tamil fans. I think that was biggest mistake of kamal haasan.
  
  
• From: kooththan (@ mail1.pmc-vacc.com) on: Thu Jan 30 15:53:12
  
  Defender,
  
  Your comments are food for thought. I am not sure I agree with you. I would have to think about that one. May be watch the movie one more time.
  
  ....later
  
  
• From: defender (@ isp-03.sce.carleton.ca) on: Thu Jan 30 18:01:26
  
  kooththan...Hope you watch the movie again.
  
  I watched the movie twice and I found it had a more profound impact on me the second time. A good amount of subtleties in the script were lost on me the first time around. For example, I completely missed the irony in Sivam's last dialogue addressed to Santhanabharathi - "neenga polaichittu ponga". The spectacle of a cripple granting a boon of life to a person armed with an aruvaal provides a telling depiction of the godly power of humanity! The script abounds with such allusions and imagery that may not be apparent with a casual watch. I think this could be one of the reasons movies scripted by Kamal fail at the box office. I had a similar experience with Hey! Ram as well.
  
  BTW, I am not insinuating anything about the perception skills or tastes of tamil rasigars in general. Its perfectly logical that the movie didn't appeal to a majority of people inspite of them figuring out all its secrets and nuances.
  
  
• From: kooththan (@ mail1.pmc-vacc.com) on: Fri Jan 31 11:08:15
  
  Defender,
  
  I do plan to watch it again, hopefully this weekend. What bothered me and kept me from going to the theaters again was the fact that they cut out a few scenes from the movie. I found this out when I read some reviews after watching the movie (I never read reviews before I watch a movie because our reviewers seem to think reveiwing a movie has to do with describing every last detail of the plot)
  
  It makes my blood boil when I see good movies like this chopped up by theater owners just to make extra time to sell popcorn. We never see what the created wanted us to see.
  
  I watched Hey Ram twice. The first time, it was first day first show - so the movie was intact. The second time, a week later, they had cut it up.
  
  Same with Alavandhan. When I watched it they had already cut it up, so I could never form a complete opinion of the movie without watching the complete movie.
  
  Anyway, enough of my lament. I will see it again.
  
  But, I still think Hey Ram was the greatest Tamil movie ever made. That was such a complete movie in every department.
  
  ....later
  
  
• From: defender (@ isp-03.sce.carleton.ca) on: Fri Jan 31 15:07:02
  
  I agree with you regarding these self-appointed censors. The version of anbe sivam I saw abruptly jumped from the love duet to the fight sequence! Now I have to wait till the DVD release to get a full picture.
  
  The real tragedy is that after investing so much creativity in his films Kamalhassan does not get a constructive or informed feedback from the media. Like you said, the so called reviewers think their job starts with narrating the entire story and ends with a perfunctory paragrapaph that gives a very superficial sucks-or-rocks verdict! An example - according to the sun tv reviewer the crux of the movie is about who gets Kiran in the end!!!
  
  
• From: Ramadas (@ dclient80-218-19-197.hispeed.ch) on: Fri Jan 31 15:49:39
  
  I asked this question in the other thread about this movie also:
  What is that Nasser keeps repeating, touching his adam's apple, frequently. It is not clear in the VCD which I saw. Can anybody help by posting?
  
  
• From: kooththan (@ mail1.pmc-vacc.com) on: Fri Jan 31 17:04:05
  
  Ramadas,
  
  Nasser recites the first few lines of the thevaram
  
  'then naadudaya sivane portri' (Hail Sivan who rules over the southern continent)
  
  And he is not touching his adams apple, he is touching the Rudthradcha seed around his neck.
  
  This is why one should never watch a movie on pirated VCDs. It just isn't the same. If you can't make time to go to the theater, at least wait till the official DVD/VCD comes out. That's what I do when I miss 'good' movies.
  
  Defender,
  
  A so called reviewer in local Tamil TV in Toronto did a review of 'anbe sivam' comparing it extensively to 'Planes Trains and Automobiles' and ending with 'in the end Madhavan marries Kiran'.
  
  I happen to know this fool (not something I am proud of), so when I ran into him later the same week, I commented on his 'review' and asked him what he thought of the movie. To my surpirse he had seen neither 'anbe sivam' nor 'planes....'
  
  He did his review, based on some website reviews he had read. If I was a violent man, I would have hurt him. He was lucky I am not.
  
  ....later
  
  
  
• From: defender (@ 134.117.61.88) on: Fri Jan 31 21:24:27
  
  Kooththan...LOL reg. the "fly-by" critic. I am guessing he must have learnt his ropes from the right honourable Mr Arkay of Rediff.com:)
  
  
  
  
• From: SEWD (@ 210.195.72.251) on: Sat Feb 1 08:03:35
  
  I THINK U ARE NOT KAMAL FAN SO THAT U SAY THAT MAKE SURE U GO AND WATCH IT AGAIN IDIOT
  
  
• From: SEWD (@ 210.195.72.251) on: Sat Feb 1 08:03:41
  
  I THINK U ARE NOT KAMAL FAN SO THAT U SAY THAT MAKE SURE U GO AND WATCH IT AGAIN IDIOT
  
  
• From: Ramadas (@ dclient80-218-19-197.hispeed.ch) on: Sat Feb 1 09:49:16
  
  sorry kooththan, I also hate watching pirated VCDs, but this is the only one available in the country in which I live. When I go to Chennai late February, I will see it in the movie-house.
  
  

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