Topic started by srk (@ 212.201.44.135) on Mon Apr 15 20:25:14 .
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whatdoes the movie deal with? how good a director mahendran is?
I havn't heard much about the movie(I am still in middle teens) but recently read a interview of my fav maniratnam who went gaga over udhiri pookal and mahendran.can anyone enlighten me abt the movie and the director?

Responses:

• From: Shakthi (@ 202.56.249.128) on: Tue Apr 16 02:51:22
  
  srk,
  
  The movie is about a guy who has sexual weakness. He is left free in his village, cause people fear his power. Basically not a bad character, except for his weakness for opposite sex.
  
  The climax is a such a worth climax to watch, all the residents of village join together and force the hero (Kal nayak or villainic hero), to drown himself. They do not resort to physical violence, the climax is very emotional, where the hero slowly and willingly drowns and kills himself and the whole village watches him with sadness. They villagers then nuture and bring up his children (That is assumption).
  
  Hero's character is good, except for his weakness, which he finds he cant overcome.
  
  VERY GOOD MOVIE.
  
  
• From: Shakthi (@ 202.56.249.128) on: Tue Apr 16 02:53:52
  
  Hero::: Vijayan
  heroine:: Rupa
  Second heroine: Y.Vijaya (as his keep or kal nayika)
  
  I dont think u know or heard of any of these names!!! nevertheless I just mentioned
  
  
• From: pathima (@ 213.86.122.5) on: Tue Apr 16 09:35:53
  
  This film is a must see film, it was one of those films that doesn't really leave you. I actually remember the main character as being a cruel and quite horrible to his wife, perhaps I got it worng .It was well written and simply beautiful ,if you appreciate those types of films, no glamour , no laughter.
  
  
• From: Vijay (@ acba32fb.ipt.aol.com) on: Tue Apr 16 13:37:54
  
  Well, one thing I can say about that film is that after watching it, I decided that Mahendran was the greatest Indian director ever. It's a pity this guy has stopped directing now. By the way I thought the heroine's name was Ashwini.
  
  
• From: raju (@ webport-cl6-cache1.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Tue Apr 16 18:45:55
  
  i saw the film a couple of years ago. balu mahendra is just great director. i would like to know more abt vijayan's film career. he was big for a very short time in Tamil films, though he was a lawyer from kerala!!
  
  
• From: srk (@ 212.201.44.135) on: Tue Apr 16 19:20:48
  
  thx ppl for the info...i wud try my best to c the movie...what r the other movies of mahendran?raju the director is mahendran not balu mahendra.
  pardon my ignorance,who's vijayan and rupa????
  and last....
  howz the movie chippikul muthu??i have seen couple of songs and heard that kamal's character is similar to forrest gump..and of course its directed by k.vishwanath... it shud b good! what does the movie deal with? keep writin
  
  
• From: Shakthi (@ bangdp-36-230.mantraonline.com) on: Wed Apr 17 06:11:20
  
  "By the way I thought the heroine's name
  was Ashwini."<<<
  
  yeah right.
  
  Vijayan was a tamil actor in later 70s ...he did not make a great career in
  tamil cine world.
  
  I remember one movie...cast...vijayan, radhika, sudhakar and rathi...forgot the name
  of the movie....STORY WAS AWFUL...but songs simply great.
  
  One famous song in that movie is.
  
  "Ayiram, malargale malarungal.
  Amuda geetham paadungal, aadungal,
  kadal vedam paadungal...
  Neengalo naangalo nerungi vande
  solungal, selungal"
  
  One more movie was ...(Damn! Again forgot the name!) vijayan with shobha.
  Movie's story was dumb, songs bearable!
  
  Any body knows any movies of vijayan?
  
  Btw, does anyone know who acted in
  "ORU OODAPOO KAN SIMITUGIRADU"
  
  What is the story about? Who acted? Is it worth watching?
  
  Also wanna know bout
  "BHUVANA ORU KELVI KURI"
  
  srk,
  
  Kamal's character in "chippikul muthu" is that of an innocent lad, rather a dumb
  but good person at heart. He marries a widow, and the rest of the story is about
  how she makes a man out of him.
  
  The movie was a dubbed version of telugu movie "Swathi muthyam"
  
  Its more an art film than a commercial masala movie.
  
  
  
• From: srk (@ 212.201.44.135) on: Wed Apr 17 10:45:44
  
  shakthi,damm,the story of 'chippikul muthu'is similar to multi-oscar winner(6) forrest gump,although it had more political theme behind it.for a change hollywood is inspired from kamal's movie.I know,it was dubbed from telugu like "sagara sangamam",althogh I have seen the later,I am looking forward to "chippikul muthu".
  "bhuvana oru kelvikuri",my bet, its a sp muthuram film,I have heard my mom talkin about it..i will ask her for more info
  
  
• From: Arjun (@ 202.144.77.189) on: Wed Apr 17 11:46:24
  
  "Forrest Gump" inspired from "Swathi Muthyam"!!!! I sincerely hope Robert Zemeckis, not even in his wildest dreams, come across this line of thought. Poor chap will have the shocker of his life. :-)
  
  
• From: sweetlad (@ proxy1.bcbsm.com) on: Wed Apr 17 13:34:50
  
  Shakthi,
  
  The heroine of 'Udiri Pookkal' is Aswini, not Rupa. I agree, they have some resemblence.
  
  
• From: srk (@ 212.201.44.135) on: Wed Apr 17 18:14:33
  
  hey dude arjun,I was just kiddin,u know kamal fans like me can just find some kind of ideas to show inspiration in not one way traffic...
  but kamal once remaked that'There is a lot of Similarity between 'Forrest Gump' and 'Swati Muthyam'. Will someone say that they copied it from our film?' Anybody listening?
  
  btw,I hate zemeckis,he's overrated
  
  
  
• From: raju (@ webport-cl6-cache1.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Wed Apr 17 19:39:01
  
  forest gump.....chippikkul muthu
  i have not seen the kamal film but the writer of forest gump(the book in 1986) was asked how she got the story idea. she said that she was travelling through India (in 1985ish) and got the idea. could it not be possible that she saw the film then and was inspired to write forest gump. i really wanna see kamal film.
  
  boovana oru kelvikuri....sivakumar,patapat? and rajni's first role as hero. great songs but sorry not seen the film.
  aayiram malarkale is 'niram maaratha pookkal'
  
  
• From: srk (@ 212.201.44.135) on: Wed Apr 17 22:04:13
  
  raju,hehe,nice joke.....
  forrest gump was written by winston groom in 1986 and he has written several novels based on the character...it is almost impossible to believe that swati muthyam or India had on influence on him..in fact i remember he was inflenced by his friend or someone from alabama(the movie is famous from alabama-english)..I wonder where did u read that quote?
  
  
• From: Sundar (@ gw-nl1.origin-it.com) on: Fri Apr 19 09:01:24
  
  Uthiri Pookal
  The main actor/hero/villain is Vijayan, who is a village head man, panchayat president. He is a sadist, tortures his sickly wife Ashwini and cast aspirations on her relationship with a doctor Sharat babu, who once was in love with her. Even his own younger brother hates this guy. Vijayan has an eye on her beutiful sister-in-law madhumalini and wants to marry her. But she is in love with a village school teacher. The story goes like how the villagers after having borne the atrocities finally make him commit suicide by drowning in the river. The movie stands out for the direction of Mahendran, and the subtle performance of Vijayan as a polished sadist villain and Ashwini. There are lot of supporting actors like Sundar, Sharat babu, who have given an excellent performance. It was quite a differnt movie in that era.
  There are also other good movies from mahendran
  Nenjathai killadhe (Debut for suhasini)
  Mullu Malarum (Rajni in a very good role)
  Jhonny
  
  
• From: raju (@ webport-cl4-cache5.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Fri Apr 19 18:33:33
  
  i wasnt joking
  
  
• From: Arjun (@ 203.197.135.127) on: Sat Apr 20 03:37:51
  
  Yeah, what next?
  "Mrs. Doubtfire" inspired from "Avvai Shanmughi"
  "The Godfather" inspired from "Nayakan"
  "Drohkaal" inspired from "Kuruthippunal"
  "She Devil" inspired from "Sathi Leelavathi"
  "Class of 1984" inspired from "Nammavar"
  "Bourne Identity" inspired from "Vettri Vizha"
  "Of Mice and Men" inspired from "Guna"
  "What About Bob" inspired from "Thenaali"
  Sheesh! The list is getting exhaustive.
  
  
• From: raju (@ webport-cl4-cache7.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Sun Apr 21 16:12:19
  
  all i'm saying is i have the article where the writer did say s/he was inspired to write the story in india. no need toget sarci.
  
  srk.....if u see uthiri pookkal then also try and see 'poottada pookkal'
  
  
• From: senthilv.com (@ 12-239-160-236.client.attbi.com) on: Sun Apr 21 19:49:17
  
  Infact, all Mahendran films are good. They are very realistic, subtle, unusual story setting and paradoxical.
  
  Uthiri pookkal got famous because of the kids (Kaja Sheriff and Anu) but the film is fantastic. Direction of some of the sequences (scenes) is amazing. Check out the fight scene between Sharath babu and Vijian on the banks of the river…The Panchajayat scenes and of course, the climax. The climax has literally no dialogue but very dramatic and satisfying.
  
  Jhonny's first half was very well done. I love the 'barber' Rajini character and especially his introduction. Watch for raja BGM score for this introduction, it’s a great piece. Deepa's character is very interesting. The saree-buying scene talks so much about Mahendran storytelling and the exposition of the character. Sridevi performance was also good.
  
  Nenjathai Killathey is also good film. The metaphorical treatment of Suhasini's jogging as theme of the movie is very interesting.
  
  His films are deep with well-built storyline. So, if you like pure drama check all his films.
  
  Senthilv.com
  
  
• From: krk (@ sjcd-webcache-5.cisco.com) on: Mon Apr 22 03:07:06
  
  Look at what Manirathnam says about this movie in an interview.
  
  http://hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2002/04/12/stories/2002041201050100.htm
  
  Buddhadeb Dasgupta: Indian cinema has given us great masters.
  Why did Tamil cinema have to wait so long to get a Mani Ratnam for
  national recognition? Also, isn't it time to do something more lasting,
  bring more sensitivity to your images?
  
  Manirathnam: National recognition has nothing to do with what we do here but with
  what people see. The fact that they were not open to seeing ``16
  Vayadhinilae'' can't be held against the maker of the film.
  
  It's just that ``Roja'' and ``Bombay'' dealt with issues closer to them
  ... got translated into Hindi. If I get anywhere near what Mahendran
  did in ``Udhiri Pookkal'' I'll be a happy man. Sensitive images...? I'm
  trying...all the time... Let me see if one day...
  
  
• From: Shakthi (@ bangdp-36-219.mantraonline.com) on: Mon Apr 22 03:24:22
  
  Whats "poottada pookkal?"
  
  
• From: senthilv.com (@ 12-239-160-236.client.attbi.com) on: Mon Apr 22 11:23:20
  
  KRK:
  
  Thanks for the article. Mani you too!!! Mani is also de-emphasizing the story!!! It should be exactly opposite to what he is saying. Theme is vehicle for the story not the other way around. When have a portrait over a theme with no argument the film is bound to fail no matter how much the cinematography, film aesthetics etc...are good.
  
  senthilv.com
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Thu May 2 09:46:17
  
  so many good reviews on this film, must watch it.
  
  

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