Topic started by Rakesh Kumar (@ 210.186.216.124) on Mon Dec 3 02:06:45 .
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This is a movie which people either hate or love. I, for one, loved it. I found plenty of inconsistencies in the script. As a matter of fact, performance-wise, everyone except Kamal and Raveena, sucks. But the film was meant to entertain. It has the word 'Commerce' written all over it. Unfortunately, Kamal's mistake was to assume that all the audience would have enough thinking capability to accept the entertainment value and forget the flaws. Hey, even geniusses like Hitchcock and Spielberg has flaws in their film. Why not, Kamal.

Its even hurting when such talented individual like Kamal gets criticised brutally merely on the fact that the critic is emotional, possibly jealous. Its humiliating to know that some things that the likes of Vijay and Prashant is thought to be a better performer, while personally I feel that this two has acting growth rate comparable to the likes of Vijayakanth and Ramarajan.

So, what do you guys think now?

Responses:

• From: kapar boy (@ brf-ppp1-58.arc.net.my) on: Mon Dec 3 02:35:05
  
  i'm wif u on the vj & prshnt thingy, but certain flaws r forgivable, n sum f em arn't & this movie's flaws fall under the latter.
  
  
• From: Viki (@ 203.145.133.194) on: Mon Dec 3 04:31:46
  
  I neither liked this movie nor hated it. The movie according to me was just average. The flaws in the movie is superceded by the acting of Kamal and the technical superiority of the film. So on the whole Aalavandaan is just about average.
  
  The main reason would be "Too much expectation from Kamal movies". Also the films incredible publicity and pre release hype increased the expectations even more.
  
  Some few months in an another thread I told that my friend Saw Aalavandaan and said that the movie was slow and dragging. I did not believe him and my faith in Kamal never made me believe him. But what he told me was indeed true.
  
  
• From: arvind (@ 203.199.220.205) on: Tue Dec 11 06:43:52
  
  after a long wait, i saw aalavandaan and like all others i was disappointed. the critics in tamilnadu were kind. but some so called genuises in hindi cinema were really harsh. very stupid indeed. they said that kamal dominates the whole movie and there is very little scope for other people to act. they listed out movies like appu raja,hindustani etc.. but they couldnt remember "sadma".
  the fact is that if a reasonably good dancer dances with prabudeva,
  u will feel that she is not dancing well.u may even tell that p'deva dominated her and gave no scope to dance?? stupid!
  also the ppl. in north are biased. i could see some of the hindi channels showing banners like "laagan invited for oscars". as if the academy for sound and motion pictures invited laagan with "vethalapaaku ,poo ,pazham".
  its true that laagan is a good movie but did these ppl. give the same support or even one tenth of the support for hey ram, atleast the tv channels.
  poor kamal! govind nihlanis "drokhal" is a mind blowing film,but it is a flop and ppl. never respect nihlani .rather they r crazy over karan johar.
  i think it is time to introduce a "film appreciationship course" to higher secondary and college students.things might change a little bit. atleast minimum guarentee will be assured.
  waiting to see kanathil muthamitaal and naren.
  
  
  
• From: Viki (@ 203.145.133.194) on: Tue Dec 11 13:23:29
  
  Only the south and that too Tamil and Malayalam film people watch some sensible movies. Forget the north.
  
  By the way I thought Asoka was a well made film except for the songs, but you know what the film is a big flop. The other movie Indian which is just another Sunny Deol Masala film is a super hit. That is Bollywood for you. They dont like sensible films.
  
  
• From: def (@ cache52.156ce.singa.pore.net) on: Thu Dec 20 04:57:18
  
  there is nuthin gr8 abt aalavanthan.
  
  
• From: Kumar (@ palo10.pacific.net.sg) on: Thu Dec 20 22:24:58
  
  Aalavanthaan was a different film, carrying a totally different subject matter, something Tamil movie watchers would be very unfamiliar with. I guess many people would be uncomfortable with things they are not used to. The majority of Tamil movie watchers now go to the movies expecting the same formulas, over and over again. The hero, the heroine, the vilian, the songs, the dream scenes, the comdey acts that have nothing to do with the main story, etc. Suddenly, when a movie with a daring subject matter appears, everyone is is confused. Why? Because they cannot predict the story like they can with every other movie. I did an experiment; I saw the first 10 minutes of a recent film on VCD. I stopped it. Then, based on common story lines Tamil movies, I predicted the story line, guessed the number of songs, dream sequences, comedy acts, fights, etc. I resumed watching the film and by the end of it, I was about 90% right in my predictions.
  
  Unfortunately, a huge number of movie goers still want to cling on to films with the same themes. That's sad because it deprives Tamil movie makers of the chance to really advance their skills in terms of stories, screenplays, technical know-how, computer effects, acting, direction, etc.
  
  
• From: Rakesh Kumar (@ 210.186.216.180) on: Fri Dec 21 04:29:08
  
  Glad that this thread is well. The number of people supporting the film is lesser than those hating it. It's either hate or love. Those who hates it, do it with plenty of emotion, including accusing Kamal of being egostical. Those who loved it, pointed out the technique of the movie. The technique, need not necessarily be special effects. Its the whole presentation of the film, and how well various teams collaborated to provide this spectacular entertainment.
  
  The film is no award material. It's strong commercial viability affected audiences who expected some sort of artistic work from Kamal. Expectation ran fever high - I suppose this affected those who are highly emotional.
  
  
• From: Nagesh (@ samrat.spcnl.co.in) on: Fri Dec 21 05:42:56
  
  But only thing Kamal to keep in mind is that whenever he tries a different good thing, it should be less expensive, for example 'Mahanadai'
  If he (or the producer) spends crores, it should be enjoyable by the so called common man.
  
  
• From: Jegan (@ edslink8.eds.com) on: Fri Dec 21 07:14:54
  
  Recently I travelled Dubai. One Sinhalese
  bearer in a hotel voluntarily commented that
  the film Aalavanthan is very fine.
  
  
• From: sarathy (@ 202.71.145.35) on: Wed Dec 26 22:30:01
  
  i dont like that film..A film is not to show ones technical talents.Its just for entertaining the people.People come to a cinema theatere just to forget their worries for 2-1/2 hours..This must be kept in mind by the directors and producers who create a film..,
  
  
• From: Sairam (@ ganga.barc.res.in) on: Fri Dec 28 03:41:59
  
  Alavandan is a movie for the mass of people with brain....and those who did not like the movie are.....ha ha what to say? Kamal is great and there's no one to beat him.
  
  
• From: Rocker (@ 202.144.77.168) on: Fri Dec 28 04:29:25
  
  It's high time Kamal Haasan fans come out of this "intellectual" facade. Can't they see that movies, primarily appeal to the senses and only later, the sensibilities. Anyone thinking otherwise is a hypocrite with a capital H. Kamal Haasan maybe beatable or unbeatable. Aalavanthaan meybe good or bad. That's a personal thing to argue on, but please, don't indulge in wild fantasies, believing that just because you liked a movie, you classify as "brainy" and "intellectual". That's the giddy limit!
  
  
• From: Priya (@ 202.41.85.80) on: Sun Jan 6 07:16:11
  
  Accidentally, I got to see this site today. Its interesting
  Mr. Rocker,
  I admire your comment. Its a good reply to
  Mr. Sairam's comment.
  
  
• From: Manithan (@ sspis100.sp.edu.sg) on: Fri Feb 1 01:45:48
  
  For the good lord's sake, CHANGE ppl... And give a chance to practical movies... U ppl are all obsessed with the usual, predictable, and did I mention, IRRITATING movies.. Song for everything, tears for everything, sentiments everywhere we turn... Three changes in clothes every 1 minute, a dash of comedy somewhere in between, a REALLY ridiculous villain who will come up with a good plan only towards the end, and a predictable climax... This is all we see in the usual tamil films.. Kamal did something different; If u can't appreciate it, at least don't look down on it.. At leats it is not as bad as all those VIJAYAKANTH movies!!!... Alavandan, like mentioned very correctly before, is a movie that u either love or hate.. For me, I loved it... It was 1 of the best movies that I have ever seen... And for those ppl who still LLOOVVEE impractical movies, sure, u can watch them once in a while to laugh at them, but not 4ever. Give practicallity a chance, and the tamil film industry will go thru the roof and beyond anything that hollywood ever imagined...
  
  
• From: Unmai (@ cache86.156ce.singa.pore.net) on: Fri Feb 1 09:04:56
  
  I did not enjoy Alavanthaan. I feel that the movie is an English movie translated into Tamil or Hindi.
  
  Basically, the script was rather weak. And Kamal could have given more focus to other issues. The fighting scenes and graphics were excellent though. Raveena could have been given more role.
  All Kamal does is to get intimate with her everything he is with her. Nothing else. She has no other role.
  
  In my opinion, Alavanthaan is the story of brothers after the same woman with two different weapons, one with a knife and the other......need I spell it out?
  
  
• From: m&m (@ hse-montreal-ppp105283.qc.sympatico.ca) on: Sat Feb 2 00:52:19
  
  I am sorry for those people who say that the people who did not like alavanthan are stupid and like tamil formula films... I call these people Kamal Hassan Sheeps who will like and say everything with kamal hassan is great..
  
  I admire kamal's acting and I like most of his movies.(I liked PKS). However, I will never say that he rules or he is the best..I am not a sheep and my head is not stuck up his a$$ like some Kamal fans..
  
  There are way too many flaws in that movie that cannot be saved by the technicality of the film done by some Australian company.. Right from the begining I may add.
  
  Kamal claimed that he did one month training with Indian commandos to make the film more realistic..
  
  That is a complete BS. For example
  
  1) There is a scene in that movie inside the hut with the terrorist and the hostages. U see the terrosrist talking to the hostages and there is a large open window. Through the window, u can see kamal and his commandres running towards the house taking cover from time to time..But what if the terrorist looked out of the window and saw the rescuers..they will start shooting the hostages..
  No commandoes will pull a stunt like that..
  
  Now this is such a minor flaw in the film compared to the bigger holes in the plot and script..
  
  Just the hostage rescue segment itself have many flaws but it can be ignored if u consider this as any other Tamil/Hindi films with over the top and unrealistic action scenes. Only reason i am picking on this is because Kamal was bragging about the 'realism of action' and his training with the Indian Commandos in the media. Otherwise i would have ignored it.
  
  I am not even getting into the "jumping onto the ballon" scene and the very weak script.
  
  I am just highlighting particular scenes in the begining of the movie just to show that Alavantan critics are not stupid but it is kamal's ego and his tendency to hype up the movie that is the problem..
  
  I hardly agree with the Hindi media but i have to agree with them this time..Kamal makes a movie with every shot for him; to show off his trade and not give any other people in the movie a chance to shine. Alavanthan is a one-man show.
  
  Look..If u really and truley liked Alavanthan it is fine..people have different taste..but if u critize people who critized Alavanthan unreasonably,,then I do have to say something..bye for now
  
  
  
• From: Nallavan (@ civ-cache1-1.cache.telstra.net) on: Mon Feb 18 19:19:44
  
  Alavanthan is a good movie; it could have been better. I wish Kamal had shed some light into the tunnel world that Nandhu lives in. It appeared that Raveena was beginning to see Nandhu not as a psychopath, as Vijay was beginning to do. But in the end, where Nandhu breaks down on reading the diary and is totally distracted from Raveena, she doesn't use that as a way out from the room, but instead proceeds to whip him! Looked like Raveena, had jettisoned her well-meaning, thinking brain and had adopted Vijay's philosophy of beating the s**t out of him. The bottom line is that we as moviegoers ought to support good films, while pointing out its flaws to Kamal. However, Kamal should know how to tighten the belt and make good movies that are not so expensive. That's all.
  
  
• From: viko (@ cache6.156ce.scvmaxonline.com.sg) on: Tue Feb 19 02:34:04
  
  if u know u going to be killed
  WILL u try to talk sense to a mentally unstable
  person?
  
  

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