manirathnam vs shankar
Topic started by coming director (@ 203.90.87.131) on Fri Jul 6 05:13:04 .
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- From: Roshan (@ 203.115.3.214)
on: Sun Aug 12 00:51:55
From: Roshan (@ 203.115.3.214) on: Sun Aug 12 00:32:46
SAAGAR, Excellent!!!! Good job!!!A fantastic analysis. You have said the exact thing very clearly.
The highlight was "It's sad that the whole india talks on pride of his patriotism"
Hope certain media personnel will read this column and start thinking.
- From: chandu (@ )
on: Fri Sep 21 03:04:04
hey mani and shankar no comarisions both of them r like god's they can dream any thing and get the dreams come true
- From: jagadheesh balaraman (@ ws108-232.labs.msstate.edu)
on: Sun Oct 7 16:15:13
enough da idiots..
all r lavadagabals....
dont u have any other work...
look at me i'm doing great job here in njit...
if u want to see me come to NJIT ans ask for "mokkai" i'll be immediately there
- From: Sridhar (@ ws108-232.labs.msstate.edu)
on: Sun Oct 7 16:17:12
i am loose....
- From: SAGAR (@ )
on: Thu Dec 6 01:37:18
HELLO FRIENDS I AM SAGAR FROM VIZAG (AP). I AM A GERAT FAN OF MANIRATNAM'S PICTURES. IAM REALLY INSANE ABOUT HIM. PLEASE IF ANY ONE HAS THE PICS OF BOMBAY OF HIS FILM PLEASE SEND TO MY MAIL.PLEASE. AND I HAVE SEEN SAKHI (TELUGU VERSION)NEARLY 8 TIMES
- From: junaid (@ )
on: Mon Dec 31 04:45:25
on the whole mani is supported by 99% except one or two fellows. Hence we go by majority decision. Mani ratnam is gr8.
- From: Bhuvan (@ solar-gw.zapsurf.com.sg)
on: Mon Dec 31 05:14:54
Maniratnam is undoubtedly the better of the two.
- From: Maran (@ cache93.156ce.singa.pore.net)
on: Mon Dec 31 14:54:50
both sucks
bala rules
- From: Raj (@ cacher-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se)
on: Wed Jan 2 06:13:10
Mani and shankar have thier own talents. They are undoubteldy the best directors in india.
- From: fan of mani (@ dialpool-210-214-131-91.maa.sify.net)
on: Wed Jan 9 12:57:23
Please don't even compare Shankar with Mani. Mani is an alltime best and shankar can only !@ck up the production costs and suck the bloody producer. Mani is the all time favourite. never ever shankar can even think of nearing mani ratnam in anything!!! should not even think ..... suck that stupid bala idot,a rascal in the industry...**ck that !@#$#hole...bala suck that stupid bala idot,a rascal in the industry...#$ck that !@#$#hole...bala
- From: Sorry Guy (@ dialpool-210-214-131-91.maa.sify.net)
on: Wed Jan 9 13:00:43
sorry about the previous post..my stupid friend who doesn't know what tamil cinema has typed it. very sorry for huting bala and shankar.
mani is the best but bala & shankar has the whole lot talents. sorry for hurting. ignore the previous message. sorry for my friend's views
- From: ~Senthil~ (@ 192.76.80.75)
on: Thu Jan 10 17:01:50
Both are very talented. They differ very much in the way they approach the subject. While Shankar solely concentrates film box office success, MR goes little further than just thinking of box office. Right now, MR is definitely ahead of Shankar in terms of film quality and treatment. But Shankar's ideas and spark might help him more... let us wait for shankar to give "real" film before we run full comparison.
- From: ~Senthil~ (@ 192.76.80.75)
on: Thu Jan 10 17:41:46
SAGAR I came across ur posting just now and here are my comments
But take for instance Roja... The movie started with kashmiri militant Vasim Khan(A social
backdrop), but ends up in a married girl trying to get her husband back from the militants.
Where is his social views ?
Great! There is no neccesity to have social view on every film. Mani is not MGR or something nor he is Shankar. What a film needs is great story, Social message is not a great story, nor it is story if it filled with fact. Every story has to be treated uniquely and it has to take its own course. So the social views question raised by you is irrelevant.
Roja is amazingly constructed script based on Sathyavaan Savithri who bring her husband back from YAMAN mouth. Here to ROJA bring back her HUSBAND from TERRORIST (YAMAN). What social message did Sathyavaan Savithri contain?. It is value and determination of DharamaPathini. Same is true to ROJA. At the sametime the ROJA shows us the life of terrorists and shows they have hear too while they are on a MISSION. Same as YAMAN whose mission(TAKING LIFE) is moved by Savithri, thereby you can infer YAMAN has a heart. Please do not throw utlimate derision without even understanding the movie.
SHANKAR'S MOVIES HAD NO FALSE GIMMICKS.ALL WERE 100% PURE GIMMICKS YET EFFECTIVE GIMMICKS.
What ever he wanted to convey it has been directly conveyed.
I do not have a clue of what you mean by this.
but here my comment, Do not expect all Director to direct a movie is same way. Alas! then boy meets girls story would vanished long time back. The key to the enjoying movie is it unique treatment. so be happy that Shankar and Mani directs films so differently.
Like Bombay- 1.Jumma Masjid was demolished.After that what happened?
My friend, If you really want to know about it, please go to library and read what happened or look out for some documentary about it. What Mani wanted to say is--What happened to Arvind, Manish and Twins after Masjid was demolished. Why? Because Bomaby is a movie about THE FAMILY (Arvind, Manish and Twins) not about demolistion of the mosque.
Speilberg has not yet directed a RELATIONSHIP based story. Does that mean he won't are he cannot?. No, he just likes the High-Concept blockbuster.
how much social message did TITANIC contain?
Please do some homework before trashing Mani like this.
- From: Krishna (@ 202.9.171.28)
on: Sun Jan 13 01:44:44
Kannungala-mani compared to Sankar is Ok but BALA-Yuk.Its like comparing Sachin to Saqlain-Stop this nonsense guys
- From: Arun (@ 202.9.171.28)
on: Sun Jan 13 01:45:09
Kannungala-mani compared to Sankar is Ok but BALA-Yuk.Its like comparing Sachin to Saqlain-Stop this nonsense guys
- From: ffffffffffffff (@ 203.143.1.16)
on: Tue Jan 22 12:03:11
mani is the best! Bala is brilliant and so is Santosh Sivan. Next is shankar.
- From: Selvam (@ toronto-hse-ppp3640361.sympatico.ca)
on: Tue Jan 22 18:19:23
Maniratnam is over-rated. The only best thing that came out of that man is 'Nayagan'. End of story. Pack it up and go home people.
- From: prabs.. (@ heffalump.wmin.ac.uk)
on: Thu Jan 24 11:07:48
Maniratnam...still the best and his experience counts.. Shankar needs to prove his versatality
- From: abi (@ 61.11.72.182)
on: Mon Jan 28 11:26:20
Mani is undoubtfully the gr8,he is soo realistic & practical ,in comparision with shank who is always commercial hit based
- From: m&m (@ hse-montreal-ppp106424.qc.sympatico.ca)
on: Mon Jan 28 23:36:11
Ok...
Shankar gives mega-budget and over produced movies with unrelastic solutions to problems..
Yeah mudhalvan, it was over three overs long. The film had maybe one hour of intense scenes..but the rest are pure crap.. The manisha relation was nonsense..Manisha talent obviously wasted here..She had nothing to do with the theme of the movie..It just made the movie long and dragging..
The movie also have really dumb scenes and so many holes in the story..\
1- The gunfight..what the hell was that?? one scene manisha and arjun were dancing, suddenly the fields were filled with 20 thugs with AK-47 and grenades..and the coconut trees exploding...yeah right..
2- In the movie Arjun wanted everyone arrested..how is this gonna help run a government..
3- In the hindi version, nakay he wanted to do the MAtrix effect during the fight scenes..with 30 cameras..haha..Hollywood used over 200 cameras to create the Matrix effects. If u cannot use the technology to the maximum capabilities don't use that technolgy..Don't try to pull Hollywood stunts when u cannot afford it or do not have the technology to do it.
and many more..
Anyways what i am trying to say is that shankar is not a well though out director..he has too many flaws..while technically and visually his films are ahead of other tamil films, he has so many flaws in every one of his films..
Unlike mainratnam, where his movies are alomst flawless.. and well thought out with script focusing on the theme of the movie. The women chacracters are integrated into the story and usually his movies are shorter than the average tamil movies without the movie from side tracking of the main story..
- From: anonymous (@ 61.11.57.214)
on: Thu Feb 7 10:39:28
mani is very simple not as shankar
shankar always try to spend lot by standerdising his movies showing seven wonders as in jeans,using helicopters for songs,plane blasts in indian....
but mani is very simple
have u people observed mani won't shoot in abroad
imagine if he starts shooting in other countries!
and always show our only wonder in our country
its a simple logic between mani and shankar
mani is director like none other
- From: m&m (@ hse-montreal-ppp105400.qc.sympatico.ca)
on: Fri Feb 8 00:40:42
exactly..anonymous
I have no problem with Shankar..He has visions and visually his movies are better that most other tamil movies..here the technical crew must be credited and the fact that he gets the funding..
However, his problems starts when he wants to show and do everything possible..(probably to attract as much audience as possible)..He has serious themes in his movies but at the end they become cartoonish and quite silly..(Maybe thats what he wants?)
I think Mudhalvan would have worked well if it was just 2 hours..
Mani on the other hand handles films well..Like u said he keeps it simple..I remember my English teacher saying "Keep it Simple, Stupid".. If the story and production are simple, then there are less chances of mistakes, holes in the story and confusion"
- From: Chimpu (@ 202.88.155.139)
on: Sun Feb 17 10:59:59
Mani is the best.Shankar lacks the versatility of Mani's screenplay and direction.Give Shankar Rs 10 crores,he would give a hit.Give him Rs 1 crore and tell him to make a movie,it would be a flop.Screenplay and and charcter portrail are mani's strenght whersa Shakar's strenght lies in Huge sets,graphics and thousands of extra actors.
- From: Madhavan (@ sbproxy2.mystarhub.com.sg)
on: Tue Feb 19 07:17:59
MANIRATNAM - He makes his movies according to the real nature of life. He makes his movies to be natural and simple.He is a great director. But sometimes, his movies are boring.eg. uyire,roja,etc. But, most of his movies are good. The policy of Maniratnam - SIMPLE , NATURAL , REALLIFE.
SHANKER - Shanker is also a great director. He has his own style of movie-making and he always has new ideas coming up. All of his movies give a lot of entertainment. The policy of Shanker - ENTERTAINMENT , CREATIVE , MODERN.
- From: bobby (@ )
on: Sat Dec 14 04:50:06
i dont no about shanker but dont compare manisir to any director
- From: battlefield of earth (@ 219.92.197.2)
on: Sat Dec 14 09:55:22
MANIRATNAM IS HERO IM GREAT
- From: Ekam Satyam (@ 202.151.200.64)
on: Fri Dec 20 21:41:03
Is Mani Ratnam's earlier movie Unaru (Malayalam) dubbed in Tamil ?
I read somewhere that his Pallavi AnuPallavi (Kannada) is dubbed in Tamil as Priya O Priya. Is it true ?
His Geethanjali (Telugu) is dubbed in Tamil as Iruthayathei Thirudathey.
I heard that Mani did not work as an assistant director to anyone and did not attend any film institute. Is it true ?
Please share any interesting info about this unique cinematorial personality.
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