Topic started by anand (@ 210.18.90.1.sify.net) on Mon Jul 12 05:09:47 EDT 2004.
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Many of kamal's films have an overdose of violence. In some of them, it is even justified. Examples include Nayakan, Guna, Kuruthipunal, Mahanadhi, Hey Ram & Thevar magan (climax). As a result,even the (intended) message that he tries to put across is lost. If he can tone it down a bit, it would have a much better impact.

I am not saying only Kamal is doing so. Other heroes too are guilty of it, but when a popular star/actor like kamal does it, it has a negative influence on the cine goers.

I sincerely request kamal fans to respond to the topic objectively & not indulge in personal barbs.

Responses:

• From: Sridevi (@ j103.ttk34.jaring.my) on: Mon Jul 12 06:43:55 EDT 2004
  
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• From: Kumar (@ 203.63.55.177) on: Wed Jul 14 22:01:10 EDT 2004
  
  'Promote'? I don't really think that Kamal actually says through his films that the violent scenes should be imitated. It's not a promotion as such.
  
  Also, these films had Kamal as an actor; apart from Hey Ram, the other movies were directed and written by other people; saying that Kamal is promoting violence in these movies is as good as saying that the heroines of these movies are promoting violence.
  
  And you are right, Kamal is not the only one.I've seen far more violent movies.
  
  (A climax of a movie, which has a violent scene, cannot make a whole movie violent. Anyway, at the end of Thevar Maghan, Kamal's character actually tells people to stop their aggresive ways and to educate themselves. And to top it off, he pays for his actions by being arrested. If anything at all, this only says that violent crime does not pay. The same for Mahanadhi).
  
  
• From: anand (@ 210.18.90.1.sify.net) on: Thu Jul 15 01:55:49 EDT 2004
  
  Kumar,
  I get your point, but it is an open secret that he "ghost directs" his films, though some of the above mentioned films have NOT been actually directed by kamal himself.
  
  He could have toned down the violence part.
  
  
• From: Baba (@ 203.76.165.1) on: Thu Jul 15 02:20:37 EDT 2004
  
  Anand
  
  Can you list out the other top Actors and Directors whom dont include viloence in their movies.....(I do accept that CHERAN is an exception)
  
  The latest AYDHA ELUTHTHU, GHILLI, even PERALAGHAN....are having violence
  
  
• From: Baba (@ 203.76.165.1) on: Thu Jul 15 02:21:45 EDT 2004
  
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• From: Kumar (@ 203.63.55.177) on: Thu Jul 15 23:49:24 EDT 2004
  
  Once again, it's not a promotion of violence. How else can a movie be based on the violence of pre-independence India be made (Hey Ram): you can't have the actors just staring blankly at the screen and talk about the violence. Can you imagine a war movie like Veerapandiya Kattaboman with just Sivaji talking about the war, rather than acting out the war scene.
  
  As for ghost directions, I've heard of this theory; but as long it's an unproven theory, we can cafely assume that Kamal did not direct these (except Hey Ram and Virumaandi). I don't think Manirathnam would be happy for Kamal to ghost direct Nayagan.
  
  
• From: anand (@ 210.18.90.1.sify.net) on: Fri Jul 16 02:20:56 EDT 2004
  
  
  Kumar,
  I do not disagree that U need to show violent scenes when talking about a war movies. I am only saying that there is an overdose of it. As for kamal ghost directing, everyone in the film industry knows it. That is why U have hardly any directors who prefer working with kamal.
  
  Regarding nayakan, from personal experience I can say that the entire climax in Engg college, Guindy was "directed" by kamal himself. Maniratnam was just an observer.
  
  
  
• From: Kumar (@ 203.63.55.177) on: Fri Jul 16 02:58:02 EDT 2004
  
  """"Regarding nayakan, from personal experience I can say that the entire climax in Engg college, Guindy was "directed" by kamal himself. Maniratnam was just an observer.""""
  
  Wow! That's a very braze statement to make. Even if this was true, what about the rest of the movie?
  
  Note also that the movies you mentioned only had parts that were violent: and these scenes were there as part of the story. This is far from movies that have a violent theme throughout, i.e. violence as a form of entertainment, or violence disguised as 'action'.
  
  
• From: Maami (@ j196.ttk34.jaring.my) on: Fri Jul 16 05:24:37 EDT 2004
  
  He want all TAMILANS to be VEERAN and more gengsters will grow up.
  
  

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