Topic started by Kujini (@ 128.227.6.96) on Mon Aug 19 15:27:14 .
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BABAJI .. got sick after BABA movie was released in Satyham Theatre..

Ada Pavi RAJINI .. En guruve un BABA padam Kamichu.. Konnupottutiya.. U murderer.. Rajini should be jailed for this act,, Otherwise Rajini should go out of TAMIL NADU And Tamil Cinema..Finally he proved himself.. but people won't at all realize..

Responses:

• From: hunnybee# (@ webcachem02b.cache.pol.co.uk) on: Mon Aug 19 15:33:06
  
  er,iz dis a joke?
  
  
• From: hunnybee (@ webcachem02b.cache.pol.co.uk) on: Mon Aug 19 15:33:48
  
  er,is dis a joke?coz if it is,its not very funny is it?
  
  
• From: Milton (@ palo15.pacific.net.sg) on: Mon Aug 19 16:06:47
  
  Kujini,
  Please don't be a sadist .Enough is enough .Don't hurt Rajini fans.
  
  
• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Mon Aug 19 16:19:11
  
  Sorry Milton,
  
  We really do not need your pity or your support here.
  
  You, claiming yourself as a PKS fan, I believe. I do not know whether you realize this, but your comment makes it look like this loser (dumb mf Kujini) is a winner now.
  
  Let us (the Rajini fans) handle this AH ourself.
  
  Thank you, anyway!
  
  
• From: Milton (@ palo15.pacific.net.sg) on: Mon Aug 19 17:12:22
  
  Sorry Sarada!
  I never claimed that I am a PKS fan.But I enjoyed Panjathanthiram.
  
  Anyway,I hope I have a right to condemn anything over the limit.
  
  
• From: Sardha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Mon Aug 19 18:09:19
  
  """PKS fan"""
  Just means that you are a kamalahasan fan as Pammal K Sammantham is being one of his late movies! It hardly matters to us, which movie of his you liked most.
  
  """Anyway,I hope I have a right to condemn anything over the limit."""
  
  Of course, you may.
  
  
• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Mon Aug 19 18:09:27
  
  """PKS fan"""
  Just means that you are a kamalahasan fan as Pammal K Sammantham is being one of his late movies! It hardly matters to us, which movie of his you liked most.
  
  """Anyway,I hope I have a right to condemn anything over the limit."""
  
  Of course, you may.
  
  
• From: DRAVIDAN (@ 203.143.25.140) on: Mon Aug 19 19:30:55
  
  BABA's disaster report may be a reason of BABAJI's death. Since Babaji choose all the aspect of BABA movie. So he couldn't digest the failure of the film.
  
  
• From: Seithigal (@ 202.184.134.8) on: Mon Aug 19 21:26:02
  
  By P C Vinoj Kumar in Chennai
  Swamy Sachidananda Maharaj, spiritual guru of Tamil film actor Rajinikanth, died at the Sri Ramachandra Medical College hospital in Chennai on Monday.
  The Swamiji had come to Chennai from US last week to view Rajinikanth's latest film Baba and take part in the film's pooja.
  During the preview show of the film at the Satyam Theatre in Chennai on August 14, the Swamiji fell unconscious following which he was admitted to the hospital. But his condition worsened and he breathed his last early on Monday.
  He had come to watch the special preview of Baba on Rajni's invitation and the actor himself had ushered him into the theatre.
  The picture of Rajni with the Swamigal had appeared on all newspapers the next day.
  The Rajnikanth Fans Club President Sathyanaraya told this correspondent that the Swamigal's body would be taken to the US and Rajni is contemplating to fly to the US for at least a week.
  Rajni's fans feel Baba is jinxed for the actor, with Dravida Kazhagam, and later PMK, crossing swords with the actor, resulting in unprecedented violence in theatres showing the film.
  
  
• From: the truth (@ ce5.time.net.my) on: Tue Aug 20 01:05:16
  
  The driving force behind the making of the latest Rajnikant flick, Baba Swami Satchidananda, passed away today at the Sri Ramachandra Medical College Hospital here, where he was admitted yesterday with complaints of transient loss of consciousness and breathing difficulty.
  
  The US-based 88-year-old spiritual guru of Rajnikant, Swami Satchidananda, made his last public appearance at the Sathyam Cinema Complex when he was led to the movie hall by the actor himself for a preview of Baba, and was the cynosure of all eyes and subject of focus for the whirring video and still cameras on 14 August.
  
  It was said that the Swami developed some health problems while watching the film itself and was taken away. But he was admitted to hospital yesterday at 9.40 a.m. and Rajnikant was at the hospital during the day. A team of experts at the hospital found the Swami having leaking aneurysm and co-morbid conditions. Appropriate treatment was initiated immediately and after initial stabilisation of vital parameters, the swami took ill early this morning and passed away at 5.45 am, despite intensive care, according to hospital sources.
  
  The Swamis body is to be airlifted to his Yogaville ashram in Virginia, USA where it will be laid to rest tomorrow. The flight is expected to leave Chennai tonight itself and the body will be taken via Mumbai, London and Washington to Virginia by six close associates of the Swami.
  
  According to his associates, the swami knew before hand that he would breath his last in India and had expressed his desire to be buried inside his ashram, where the spot has been identified and the materials required for the samadhi kept ready. Even people had been asked to be ready for building the samadhi.
  
  The last rites are expected to be performed by Perur Adhinar Marudha Adigalar, who has given a list of materials to be procured for the obsequeis, which too will be airlifted along with the body to the US. Asked why the swami had wanted himself to be buried in the US, the associates said that it was due to the fact that he had managed to popularise yoga and Hindu spirituality in that land.
  
  Born in Chettipalayam near Coimbatore, Swami Satchidananda, whose real name was Ramaswamy, set up his ashram, which nestles in a sprawling lush green landscape, in 1962 after wandering around the world.
  
  The ashram also houses a temple called Light Of Truth Universal Shrine, which is abbreviated as LOTUS.
  
  The swamis mission runs a school near Coimbatore and the various activities there are being looked after by Satchidanandas son. His wife died, after delivering two children, much before Ramaswamy renounced worldy pleasures and became Swami Satchidananda. Besides Rajnikant, who is said to have spent considerable time at the ashram, the swami has thousands of devotees all over the world
  
  
• From: Zorrin (@ user-0c938rn.cable.mindspring.com) on: Thu Aug 29 12:06:55
  
  Guys
  
  I thought Babaji is some mystical person who lives in the Himalayas. I didn't know he is the same as Swami Sachitanandha. Please clarify on this.
  
  
• From: a rajini fan (@ cache.zyberway.com) on: Sat Sep 7 14:37:04
  
  kujini,
  how dare u utter such nonsense abt our superstar?he is the king of film world and is a very very good man.u better shut up u idiot kujini
  
  
• From: Manithan (@ curtin-gw.zapsurf.com.sg) on: Sat Sep 7 14:48:35
  
  to all Rajini fans.. plz be calm.. and take into consideration wat the 'begger-like' saint mentioned in the movie Baba..
  'Ellam Therinthavan Ethuvum Paesamaattan..
  Arai Kurai Therinthavan Paesamal Irukkamaattan..'
  
  Wich in short of course means, 'Empty Vessels Make The Most Noise'.. Kujini is juz one of those empty vessels.. Why should u bother so much abt such an unnecessary waste of living space? Realx.. Take it easy..
  
  
• From: rajini sharma ramachandran, kuantan (@ 219.92.237.35) on: Tue Sep 17 13:14:33
  
  I got no command on the movie BABA coz i not yet watch it.
  
  
• From: fainas (@ montreal-ppp3535602.sympatico.ca) on: Tue Sep 24 20:43:27
  
  the movie was adisaster?i thought it was ok.you should accept whatever rajni do thats what a fan mean.loving what the person does.so make up your minds...
  
  
• From: sujeet (@ 203.106.52.2) on: Thu Oct 3 00:19:28
  
  Baba is a flop ??? Rajini movie aint to be seen normally. If you were looking for some love bugs / crazy dances// then U ought to see Vijay or Prasant/ajit movies.
  
  Baba was fantastic movie... See it many times and I am sure that U enjoy Rajini dance !!!
  
  
• From: madhavan (@ 203.106.52.2) on: Thu Oct 3 00:23:42
  
  I agree with sujeet, kujini is just looking for some other love bug :) story and not prepared take up Rajini movie..
  
  Rajini movie is not about story / screen play or music or dance.. It is all about the SUPERSTAR... that is it... ( basic funda !! )
  
  bye guys.. madavan
  
  
• From: h (@ 202.93.132.3) on: Wed Oct 9 05:23:21
  
  Definition:
  Hindians: People whose mother tongue is Hindi; much of Uttar Pradesh, Madya Pradesh and some surrounding areas in northern India is their homeland. Hindian politicians control and dominate the Indian government because they form the single largest block in the Indian parliament.
  
  (FOREWORD: The article "Gujral and the Fishermen" in the December 1997 issue of TAMIL TRIBUNE discussed the killings of Tamil Nadu fishermen by the Sri Lankan navy and pointed out that the Indian government does not care about the safety and security of its Tamil citizens.
  
  This is not the first time that the Indian government refused to protect Tamil citizens. During the December 1991 massacres of Tamils in the Indian State of Karnataka the Indian government refused to send the army to protect the Tamils living in Karnataka. I published a Tamil article "Lessons from the Karnataka Massacres" in the May 1992 issue of Thamizh Nilam. The following is an updated English translation of that article. What I wrote six years ago holds true even today.)
  
  Background:
  
  Cauvery river flows from Karnataka State to Tamil Nadu and irrigates many thousands and thousands of acres of farmland in Thanjavur (Tanjore) and nearby districts. It is the life source for Tamil farmers of these areas. Through a series of agreements dating back to 1892, Karnataka State has the responsibility to release specific amounts of water to Tamil Nadu every year. There was no problem when the British ruled the Indian subcontinent. After the British left, Karnataka started holding back the water legally due to Tamil Nadu. Tamil Nadu government took the matter all the way up to the Indian Supreme Court and a Cauvery Water Tribunal was set up to decide how much water Karnataka should release to Tamil Nadu. Following a Supreme Court order, the tribunal instructed Karnataka to release 205 TMC feet of water to Tamil Nadu for the year beginning July 1, 1991. Karnataka State Chief Minister Bangarappa refused the instructions and organized a statewide strike on December 13, 1991 to protest. The strike turned into an orgy of violence against Tamils living in the state for over two weeks. Tamils were beaten, tortured, raped and murdered; their houses were looted and burned. Fearing for their lives, Tamils fled the state to Tamil Nadu or the neighboring Kerala State with only what they can carry on a long walk to these safe havens.
  
  An Orgy of Violence:
  
  When many Tamil areas in the state capital Bangalore were in flames, Chief Minister Bangarappa was in Pune (Maharashtra State) attending a music function. Later, when a reporter asked him why he did not return to the state, he answered that there was violence in only some Tamil areas. Anti-Tamil violence was not limited to Bangalore. In fact, many gruesome incidents happened elsewhere in the state.
  
  According to Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jaya Lalitha, 90,000 Tamils fled Karnataka and they lost over three billion rupees worth of properties. It was estimated that about 50 Tamils were murdered and many more beaten, stabbed, tortured or raped. Karnataka Chief Minister Bangarappa claimed that not a single Tamil was killed and that only 17700 Tamils fled the state. Even 17700 Tamils fleeing the state afraid for their lives is bad but the number is much higher. A correspondent of the British paper Sunday Observer, who visited some of the refugee camps set up for the fleeing Tamils, wrote "the sheer number of Tamils in the refugee camps seem to disprove only 17700 people left Karnataka". Sunday Observer also described eyewitness accounts of Tamils murdered by Kannadiga mobs.
  
  Tamil women particularly seemed to have been the target of Kannadiga mobs. Instead of quoting Tamil newspapers, I provide the following information from the British publication Sunday Observer:
  
  Crimes against Tamils were committed in connivance with the state police and some local political leaders.
  Local politicians and police shared the looted properties.
  Numbers of Tamil women were killed after being gang raped. Some women were tortured and raped. Numbers of Tamil women were missing.
  Two dead bodies and another on the verge of death were found at one place. The dead bodies were that of the father and mother of the young girl whose breasts were chopped off and still barely alive.
  A 14-year old girl was raped and murdered in front of her father.
  A group of Tamils were traveling (escaping!) to Kerala State from Karnataka. A mob of Kannadigas stopped them and took away ten women and girls between the ages of 15 and 25. They were never seen again.
  While independent Indian and foreign news organizations reported the enormity of the situation, the Indian-government run Television and Radio showed its anti-Tamil bias by downplaying the situation as if nothing much was happening against Tamils in Karnataka. This biased reporting infuriated even Chief Minister Jayalalitha that she publicly complained about it.
  
  Tamils were massacred in Karnataka, India did nothing:
  
  There were reports that some leaders of the party ruling the Karnataka state initiated the attacks. There were also many reports of police and local politicians sharing looted properties. Also were reports that police were doing nothing to stop the violence in most places. In view of this background, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister Jayalalitha asked the Indian government to deploy the army to violence-struck areas. The Indian government refused. Note that this orgy of violence against Tamils was not a one-day event. It continued for well over two weeks. Had the army been deployed when Jayalalitha requested it, many Tamil lives could have been saved and so much pain and suffering could have been averted. But the Indian government seemed to have no concern about Tamil lives. This was in 1991; the same disregard for the lives of its Tamil citizens is evident in the present refusal of the Indian government to ask the navy to protect Tamil Nadu fishermen from shootings by Sri Lankan navy. (See "Gujral and the Fishermen" in the December 1997 issue of TAMIL TRIBUNE).
  
  Tamils should remember that India spends approximately 300 billion rupees annually for the upkeep of the army. Approximately 30 billion rupees of this comes from Tamils. (This is not the total tax Tamils pay to the Indian government but our share of the army expenditures.) Paying 30 billion rupees every year for the upkeep of the army, we have every right to expect protection from the army when Tamils are butchered in Karnataka State.
  
  But Hindians, who control the Indian government irrespective of which party is in power or who is the Prime Minister, do not seem to think so. They think that all of Indian subcontinent belongs to them and the Indian army is their private security force to protect Hindian interests; Tamils are not worth protecting.
  
  When the British ruled the Indian subcontinent, they enslaved all the nationalities of the subcontinent and plundered the wealth of everyone. But they treated them all equally. Tamils were not harassed or harmed anywhere in the subcontinent in all those years of British rule. But after the government changed hands from the British to Hindians in 1947, Tamils have met with violence in many Indian states. In fact, Tamils living in Australia, Canada, Europe and the United States are safer than Tamils living in some Indian states. Tamils have been attacked in Kerala, Maharashtra and Karnataka states with the connivance of state governments, though the level of violence in Kerala and Maharashtra were much less compared to what happened in Karnataka. In none of these cases did the Indian government send the army to protect Tamils. Consider this. Less than a dozen Hindi-speaking Uttar Pradeshis were killed by Sikh guerrillas one day a few years ago. Thousands of Indian troops were immediately rushed to protect the Uttar Pradeshis. Here, in Karnataka, scores of Tamils were murdered, mutilated and raped for over two weeks and billions of rupees worth of properties were looted and destroyed but the Indian government refused to send troops to protect the Tamils. Is it not step-motherly treatment?
  
  Tamil fishermen were chased out of Kachchative, India did nothing:
  
  Take the case of Kachchativu. This is a small island between the Indian subcontinent and the Sri Lankan island. It belonged to India. Tamil Nadu fishermen often stop there to rest and dry their nets. The Indian government handed it over to Sri Lanka during the 1970s. Tamil Nadu was not consulted even though Kachchativu is adjacent to Tamil Nadu and it were the Tamil Nadu fishermen who used the island during their fishing trips. When Tamil Nadu fishermen raised their concerns, the Indian government told them that the agreement allows Tamil Nadu fishermen to use the Kachchativu island as before even though it now belonged to Sri Lanka. However, now (this sentence was originally written in 1992 for the Tamil article), the Sri Lankan Navy shoots at Tamil Nadu fishermen if they go anywhere near Kachchativu. Indian government refuses to protect our fishermen. All that would take is to send a Navy ship on patrol near Kachchativu couple of times a month and warn Sri Lanka that the Indian navy would shoot and disable any Sri Lankan ship that shoots at Tamil Nadu fishermen. But the Indian government refuses to do that. (Again, I remind the readers that this article was originally written for and published in a Tamil magazine in 1992. Since that time over a hundred fishermen were killed, many more were injured and scores of boats were destroyed. Now the Sri Lankan navy shoots at Tamil Nadu fishermen not only near Kachchativu but also in the open seas. Indian government refuses to do anything about in even though former Chief Minister Jayalalitha and present Chief Minister Karnunanidhi had asked the Indian government to protect our fishermen.)
  
  India was very generous in handing over to Sri Lanka Tamil land (namely, Kachchativu island) used by Tamil Nadu fishermen for generations. But the same Indian government guards every square inch on its northern border (even barren, unused and unusable land) jealously. In the Kutch sector, if a few Pakistani soldiers were to step a few yards across the boundary line, Indian troops shoot at them, reinforcements are rushed there and war planes fly over for additional protection. But alas, Tamil Nadu fishermen are shot and killed in areas they had fished for generations and the Indian government does nothing to protect them. Is it not step-motherly treatment?
  
  When the Chinese claimed some barren land on the Indo-Chinese borders as theirs, India even refused to talk about it. China sent its troops into the land it claimed and India rushed its troops to counter it and lost thousands of soldiers in the war that ensued in 1962. See the difference. When it is land on the northern border that is relatively close to the Hindi belt, even if the land is barren and unused, India would not budge an inch and enters into costly wars. When it is land used by Tamil Nadu fishermen, India generously hands them over to Sri Lanka though the land is important to Tamil Nadu fishermen. Is it not step-motherly treatment?
  
  I am not saying that India should not protect land on its northern borders. What I am saying is that protect land important to Tamils and used by Tamils with the same vigilance and vigor. After all, we the Tamils foot army's bill equally and we have a right to expect protection from the Indian army when needed. But we are not getting it.
  
  Tamil farmers were denied their water, and India did nothing:
  
  Take another example - The Cauvery water dispute. When the British enslaved and ruled all of the subcontinent, they made an equitable water sharing agreement between Karnataka State and Tamil Nadu and enforced it. Then our British rulers left and Hindians became our masters from 1947. Karnataka started to renege on the agreement little by little. Chief ministers of Tamil Nadu did everything they could to get our share of the water because Tamil Nadu has a legal right to part of Cauvery waters and that water is the life blood of vast areas of farmland in Thanjavur and nearby districts. They pleaded with the Karnataka chief ministers; no effect. Submitted our claim to the Water Tribunal; it ruled in Tamil Nadu's favor. Karnataka refused to obey the ruling. We sued in the Indian Supreme Court; the court ruled in our favor. Karnataka refused to obey. We pleaded with successive Indian governments to enforce the rulings of the Water Tribunal and the Supreme Court. They would not.
  
  The Indian government does not care that Tamil crops are dying for lack of water. It does not care that Tamil farmers are going hungry. It does not care that Tamil farmers' families are vanquishing. If it were Hindi-speaking Uttar Pradesh or Madya Pradesh that were denied their rightful share of water, if it were Hindian's crops that were dying, if it were Hindi farmers that were going hungry, if it were Hindi farmers' families that were vanquishing, then it would have been a different ball game. Indian Prime Minister would have made sure that the Hindi farmers get their rightful share of water from the neighboring state. If the neighboring state were to refuse the Water Tribunal or Supreme Court rulings, the Indian Prime Minister would have surely dismissed the state government on the grounds that it was not obeying the law. But here, in our case, no action was taken against the Karnataka government because the people on the receiving end are Tamil farmers, because the people whose livelihood is denied are Tamil farmers, because the people who are going hungry are Tamil farmers and their families. Tamils do not mean much to the Indian government. Tamils count very little to the Indian government.
  
  What can Tamils do?
  
  Put all these things together. Karnataka refuses to release Tamil Nadu's share of Cauvery water, disobeying the Water Tribunal and the Indian Supreme Court. Indian government would not enforce the law. Tamils in Karnataka are massacred for over two weeks. India refused to send the army to protect them. Kachchativu island that belonged to India and used by Tamil fishermen regularly was handed over to Sri Lanka without consulting the Tamil Nadu government and against the protests of Tamil Nadu fishermen. Sri Lankan navy shoots at Tamil Nadu fishermen going near Kachchativu in spite of its earlier promise that Tamil Nadu fishermen could use the island as before. Indian government refused to protect the Tamil fishermen. Seeing that India is not protecting the Tamil fishermen near Kachchativu, Sri Lankan navy now shoots and kills Tamil Nadu fishermen in other areas away from Kachchativu also. Indian government refuses to protect the fishermen. As of now, over 120 Tamil Nadu fishermen have been killed, many more injured and millions of rupees worth of boats damaged or destroyed by the Sri Lankan navy. These boats are the very means of the fishermen's livelihood.
  
  Under these circumstances what can Tamils do? Take it lying down? Murmur that we cannot do much about it and bear with it?
  
  (Thanjai Nalankilli presents his solution to the problem in Part-2 of the article. Karnataka Massacres-Part2 (by Thanjai Nalankilli)
  
  
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• From: shwetha (@ 202.54.70.2) on: Mon Oct 21 16:03:51
  
  rajinikanth xxxxed me at the age of 16
  
  
• From: shwetha (@ 202.54.70.2) on: Mon Oct 21 16:04:23
  
  milton xxxxed me at the age of 16
  
  

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