Topic started by vohsendhan (@ 202.88.133.66) on Mon Mar 25 07:04:27 .
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In this nation where some persons are nationalists by birth and the others are to prove their credentials and earn the title of being a nationalist, here are some tips to avoid being called anti-nationalists and to earn the right title :
(1)If you cite this portion of history, you become nationalist:
"955 CE: Medieval Europe - John XII becomes pope at the age of eighteen and
rules for nine years. His title as pope exemplifies the decline in value of
the Church in the early-medieval period. Local lords establish control over
churches and monasteries, and Church officials are often unqualified. The
majority of priests are illiterate and live with concubines. The majority of
popes, mostly sons of powerful Roman families, are corrupt or incompetent"
If you cite this portion of history, you become anti-nationalist:
Inscriptions of the Kulothunga Cholan III, in his 29th year. (1099 AD):-
Three Brahmins who had stolen the ornaments of the deity in the temple have been caught.
Similar incident had taken place in 1070 AD in the third year of Cholan Adhirajendran. This theft had come to light during the audit by the Temple Treasurer Rajaraja Moovendha Velar.
It was found out during the audit of Senapathi Pallavarayar that the priests had stolen the ornaments of the temple, during the eighth year of rule of Kulothungan III (1186 AD).
During the 21st year of rule of Kulothungan III Senapathy Nandiarasan while auditing had found out that the priests had stolen the ornaments of the temple. The king had ordered the cost of the stolen ornaments (valued at 540 gold coins) to be recovered from them. He had also punished them. The name of one of the priests punished thus was Kumarasamy. The name of the others could not be ascertained.
One priest by name Thiruchitrampala pattar had stolen the ornament called 'Thirumuththuvaali' and presented it to his keep who was a prostitute. He had been assisted in this case by another Brahmin .
Removal of the entire statue by the priests, theft of the paddy of the temple by the priests, spending only ½ kazhanji gold but recording the expenditure as 2 kazhanju , etc have been found recorded in three inscriptions of the king Rajarajan III.
(2)If you quote, in examinations, this portion of criminal law in the medieval India, from an approved text-book, you are a nationalist:
"The efficacy of punishment, by and large, depends on its impartiality. The penal policy should, therefore, be completely free from considerations as to the caste, creed, religion or status of the offender. It would be pertinent to note in this context that the failure of criminal justice during Moghul-rule in India was solely due to the discriminatory nature of Muslim law of crimes and evidence. Thus, no Mohammedan could be awarded capital punishment on the evidence of an infidel, that is, the unbeliever in the Muslim faith. Further, the evidence of one Mohammedan was equivalent to two Hindus and evidentiary value of two female witnesses was equal to one male withess under the Muslim law. ..This amply evinces irrationality of the muslim criminal law and the bias which it carried against Hindus and women." (Page 158&159 -Criminology and Penology - Prof. N. V. Paranjape - Central Law Publications -1998, a book which starts from Dharmasastras and approved for use by law students)
If you quote this portion of the criminal law of the anicient India, you are an anti-nationalist:
Manu smriti : Chapter VIII. 66. Nor one wholly dependent, nor one of bad fame, nor a Dasyu, nor one who follows forbidden occupations, nor an aged (man), nor an infant, nor one (man alone), nor a man of the lowest castes, nor one deficient in organs of sense,
68. Women should give evidence for women, and for twice-born men twice-born men (of the) same (kind), virtuous Sudras for Sudras, and men of the lowest castes for the lowest.
77. One man who is free from covetousness may be (accepted as) witness; but not even many pure women, because the understanding of females is apt to waver, nor even many other men, who are tainted with sin.
267. A Kshatriya, having defamed a Brahmana, shall be fined one hundred (panas); a Vaisya one hundred and fifty or two hundred; a Sudra shall suffer corporal punishment.
268. A Brahmana shall be fined fifty (panas) for defaming a Kshatriya; in (the case of) a Vaisya the fine shall be twenty-five (panas); in (the case of) a Sudra twelve
379. Tonsure (of the head) is ordained for a Brahmana (instead of) capital punishment; but (men of) other castes shall suffer capital punishment.
380. Let him never slay a Brahmana, though he have committed all (possible) crimes; let him banish such an (offender), leaving all his property (to him) and (his body) unhurt.
(3)If you quote this portion of history, you are nationalist:
The papacy approves the use of torture for religious disobedience, following Innocent III's brutal "inquisitions" against heresy (namely the Waldensian and Albigensian heretics).
If you quote this portion of history, you are anti-nationalist:
The way Temples were used and advised to be used by the first political terrorist of the world, Chanakya to promote Brahminical domination, as explained in Arthasastra:
"Contrivance to kill the enemy may be formed in those places of worship and visit, which the enemy, under the influence of faith, frequents on occasions of worshipping gods and of pilgrimage."- Page 428.-Book XI -Chapter V.
"A wall or stone, kept by mechanical contrivance, may, by loosening the fastenings, be let to fall on the head of the enemy when he has entered into a temple;
Stones and weapons may be showered over his head from the topmost story;
Or a door - panel may be let to fall;
Or a huge rod kept over a wall or partly attached to a wall may be made to fall over him;
Or weapons kept inside the body of an idol may be thrown over his head;
Or the floor of those places where he usually stands, sits, or walks may be sprinkled with poison mixed with cow dung or with pure water;
Or under the plea of giving him flowers, scented powders, or of causing scented smoke, he may be poisoned;
(All these have been recorded in Arthasasthra. Dear suppressed 'Hindus'! All this can be done only if the priesthood is in possession of a single Varna. If everybody has the right to officiate as priests, this kind of conspiracies cannot be hatched.)
(4)If you believe what they want you to believe, you are a nationalist.
If you believe what you know to be true, you are an anti-nationalist.
(5)If you stop thinking, you are a nationalist.
If you start thinking you are an anti-nationalist.
(6)If you identify them with the nation and their welfare with the nation's welfare, you are a nationalist.
If you want to search for your welfare also in such a nation, you are an anti-nationalist.
(7)If you become mercenery to those wearing the hate-threads across their body, you are a nationalist.
If you question the purpose of those threads in this forum, your topic will be called as a hate-thread and you an anti-nationalist.
Dear friends, revert to your own priest-less and corruption-less Saivite tradition of the Indus era. Keep aloof of all these temples for some time. Only for some time. If your Swarna-pushpa is not available to them, they will come out of the temples. If your right to officiate as priests is established, the RSS, VHP and their parivars will come out and cry hoarse that there is no God. Periyar, originally a great Saivite, preached atheism only to liberate you from the clutches of these exploiters. But, these people really believe there is no God. They are real athiests. That is why they keep on fine tuning the art of apartheid right from the days of Arthasastra.
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