Topic started by Mahavir Sanglikar (@ 203.124.143.40) on Sun Sep 9 11:10:01 .
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Sleeping With Enemy

They attacked Muslims,
But we kept silence
Because we were not Muslims

Then they attacked Christians
But we kept silence
Because we were not Christians

They attacked Sikhs
But we kept silence
Because we were not Sikhs

Then they attacked Buddhists
But we kept silence
Because we were not Buddhists

Now it was our number
They attacked us
But none of above was with us

Because we were always with RSS

-Mahavir Sanglikar

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• From: abc (@ minesota.yamato.ibm.com) on: Wed Nov 7 11:31:13
  
  dravidan,
  1)take them to court? we took babri demolition issue to court and Hindus stood trial. Did that prevent Muslims from raping and killing Hindus in Indian Subcontinent?
  2)What about teh instigators of Dangs riots when missionaries pissed on Hanuman idols? What abt teh NE terrorists backed by missionaries? What about the lakhs of Kashmiri and Bangladeshi and Indian muslims who kill their Hindu neighbours? What about the Nadeem, Azhar and Dawood who harm their "motherland". What about the Bukhari who supports Afghan terrorists(who inturn support Kashmiri terrorists)?
  4)It was COmmunists that supported Partition. RSS rightly killed Gandhi. Better late than Never.
  5) distortion ? see the storm Gadar created when it portrayed true history. Did you ever study how Muslims raped and destroyed throughout history? Did you read how Tipu attached Guruvayur temple? so on? Did you read that a nun forced to drink urine was fabricated tale? Did you read that Dangs riots was caused by missionaries urinating on Hanuman idols? Did you read that a nun getting raped in Jhabua was actually done by "secular" congressmen? Who distorts facts?
  7)SO karunanidhi etc are eliminating caste system by introducing reservation system ? No more proofs required that you know some "abcd" thru reservations system by denying knowledge to a deserving Brahmin student.
  8) Tribals not being Hindus(accepting your point) does not Still justify missionaries forcing them to convert else loot their property. Does it?
  9)SUPPOSE I, A NEIGHBOUR OF YOURS BUT MUSLIM BY FAITH RAPE BRUTALLY TO DEATH YOUR MOTHER, WIFE AND DAUGHTER(UNBOTHERED ABOUT THEIR AGE) IN FRONT OF YOU JUST BECAUSE A DISTANT MUSLIM COUNTRY IS BEING ATTACKED, WOULD YOU STILL GIVE SERMONS ON TOLERANCE, ETC ETC (LIKE NEHRU ETC) ?
  
  On explaining significance of Durga Puja to you, would you bother to deliberate on Hindu victims. Did I ask you significance of Xmas when Steins was killed?
  
  I didnt get your answer regarding LTTE.
  
  1)Did you ask Bukhari, OSama, Jinnah, ISS leaders, AL Umma leaders, dawood when they killed lakhs of Hindus?
  2)Did you ask the NE missionaries and Fijian Xians when they looted Hindus?
  3) Did you ask why Pope still does not accept All religions are equal?
  4) did you ask missionaries why they fabricated lies (like forceful urine drinking, rapes in Jhabua etc), urinate of Hindu icons ?
  5)did you ask why Bukhari asks muslims to support taleban?
  6)you talk about carrying weaponms. If Constable Selvakumar had no weapons would you have saved him from AL Umma activists?
  7) why missionaris sponsor terrorism in NE, Gujarat and tribal India.
  
  Ask these questions to them first(also).
  
  You still didnt answer this -
  Would you still preach tolerance if a Muslim group gang-rapes your mother,wife and daughter infront of you to death just because some other countries are at war? Hindus got this teatment in bangladsh, in Pakistan in 1947 and before that and still today in kashmir, Mumbai. Do you libe in Kovai? Chennai ? Beware of muslims there- this may happen really to you because Muslim Afghanistan is being bombed and you are not a muslim.
  
  
• From: abc (@ minesota.yamato.ibm.com) on: Wed Nov 7 11:38:15
  
  Dravidian,
  Now to answer your hooliganism question ...
  
  is it not true that you Shudras are discriminating against Brahmanas in education and employment while at the same time call for elimination of caste system ?
  
  is it not true that at the height of dravidian movement you Shudras cut off Brahmanas' poonal.
  
  as far as i recall nathuram wanted his ash to be immersed in Sindhu, Ganga - he dreamt of a United India.
  
  You seem to dwell upon Aryans attacking others. Can you explain about the Tamil Nadu riots ? Can you explain why you poeple are so casteist that you even have parties for Thevars, Vanniyars etc. Are they Aryans?
  
  By the way, have you questioned Karunanidhi as to why he didnt change his Samskrit name to Karunaikadal rather than changing Srivilliputur to Tiruvillipthur and asking for tamilisation of Samskrit prayers. Why he does not ask mullas in TN to shout koran in Tamil?
  
  
• From: abc (@ minesota.yamato.ibm.com) on: Wed Nov 7 12:15:20
  
  Dravidian,
  I just marvel at this statement of yours -
  --When Buddhists rape Hindus in Lanks, no problem?
  Its aryans who rape Hindus in Lanks. Infact LTTE is secular
  
  How beautifully you converted the Sinhala-Tamil problem into Aryan-Hindu problem.
  
  Are Srilankan Tamils listening?
  BY the way what Dravidan, whats teh difference between Aryan and Hindu? Hinduism is a religion whereas Aryan is a race. How are these two interlinked? Your stmt resembles the following example.
  You ask a Muslim whether he is a Kannadiga or a Tamilian. He says- "No, I am a Muslim."
  
  
• From: Tamil Christian (@ proxy1-external.orng1.occa.home.com) on: Sat Nov 10 18:55:17
  
  abc,
  
  'How beautifully you converted the Sinhala-Tamil problem into Aryan-Hindu problem. '
  
  I did not convert Sinhala-Tamil problem into a aryan-hindu problem, instead i intended to say its a aryan-indian or aryan-dravidian problem. 99% of lankan tamils are dravidians, whereas 100% srilankans claim to be aryans. Do the correlation yourself or using your IBM workstation.
  
  
  'You ask a Muslim whether he is a Kannadiga or a Tamilian. He says- "No, I am a Muslim."'
  
  I cannot speak for muslims. If you ask a christian whether he/she is a Kannadiga or a Tamilian. He/she will say i am an indian and then a christian. Christianity encourages growth of the culture and society. Infact, many foreign christians have chosen to become indians, out of affinity towards indians(Mother Teresa, Veeramamunivar). If you talk about north-east christians, i have no idea and i wish you to tell more about them.
  
  
  
• From: Tamil Christian (@ proxy1-external.orng1.occa.home.com) on: Sat Nov 10 19:05:10
  
  abc,
  
  'Can you explain why you poeple are so casteist that you even have parties for Thevars, Vanniyars etc. Are they Aryans?'
  
  Vanniyars constitute 40% of the population. Thevars are also in double digit range. Brahmins that claim to be aryans constitute 2% of the population. Given the above statistic,
  
  can you tell me why 90% of PM's were brahmins.
  can you tell me how 100% of brahmins are literates.
  can you tell me how secretariat that controls the decision making process is controlled by brahmins.
  
  When brahmins directly or indirectly controlled the society for so long, why cant vanniars and thevars group themselves for their betterment. If brahmins had taken care to uplift the entire society, groupism will not have survived.
  
  All i can see is even today, brahmins have a pretty good networking, even in US. I do admire that, except that such a unity should be based not on caste but indian citizenship.
  
  Caste based groups will not survive if caste is abolished. We should strike at the root of the problem. Any religion that supports caste must reform itself, including christianity practiced by indians. I have to give credit to isalm and buddhism, jainism on this.
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: koton (@ ) on: Thu Oct 2 19:32:15
  
  I'm a Bangladeshi Hindu by birth and I'm angry that my dad is treated like a 2nd class citizen in his own country. I live in a Western country now, and the same people who persecuted my dad and now flooding that country. I'm packing with my shotgun. If any intolerant Muslims try to f**k with me, they better watch out. Notice I said INTOLERANT Muslims, thats right, I like Islam but I hate dogs who dont deserve to be called Muslim. I'm only 20 and I'd love to go to jail over shooting some communal fascists.
  
  

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