Topic started by Mahendra Kumar (@ netcache.spectranet.com) on Wed Nov 5 00:26:29 EST 2003.
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as far as I am concerned , the caste plays a big role in India . It is more so since the British came to India.Here the dominating castes cause a lot of harm to local caste. Nishads were the 5th category of caste .Before the origin of Ram and under the influence of Vedic system the Hindus were devide into 4 Verna and the 5 verna was of Nishads . It is this verna which or the people of this verna did not want any type of divisions in society and they seperated from the main stream of society these people were equel to all castes of the then society but with the passage of time all intermingled and the these Nishads were made serving classes but these did not lost there culture for long . Hence people ( Nishads having land and agraculture and or any good means of earning money became part of main stream of society and those who were poor worked as service class .Those who lived in jungles and lost there proper means of earnings but have muscle strenghth and who were seen as down grades also who were tortureed by society for not following there culture became the wariors or the decoits and the were seen as low castes or even people say they are Bad people and saying that in those times instead I will put it as taking name of these people was just like abusing .I think the Dharmacharyas of the main persons of society were not able to conver them and their unability was reflected in such manner. I think it is ( taking name as abuse)the same , thing reflecting from the period of Ram to this time also . We may have good discussion on this matter again . I am waiting for the criticism of my views.
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• From: Rohit (@ cpc1-nfds4-3-0-cust212.nott.cable.ntl.com) on: Sat Jan 17 15:35:12 EST 2004
  
  Science and Buddhism:
  
  Following are the quotations from a number of scientists and famous authors on science and Buddhism:
  
  Albert Einstein (twentieth century most famous scientist):
  
  " If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs, it would be Buddhism."
  
  Sir Edwin Arnold (Author Of "The Light Of Asia"):
  
  " I have often said, and shall say again and again, that between Buddhism and modern science there exists a close intellectual bond."
  
  Bertrand Russell (Famous Philosopher and Mathematician):
  
  " Buddhism is a combination of both speculative and scientific philosophy. It advocates the scientific method and pursues that to a finality that may be called rationalistic... It takes up where science cannot lead because of the limitations of the physical instruments."
  
  Radhakrishnan, PhD.
  
  " If Buddhism appealed to the modern mind, it was because it was scientific, empirical and not based on any dogma."
  
  Graham Howe, PhD (Famous British Psychiatrist)
  
  " To read a little Buddhism is a realize that the Buddhists knew, 2500 years ago, far more about modern problems of psychology than they have been given credit for. They studied these problems long ago and found the answers also. We are now rediscovering the ancient wisdom of the east."
  
  H.G.wells (Famous Scientist and Historian):
  
  " Over great areas of the world, Buddhism still survives. It is possible that in contact with western science, and inspired by the spirit of history, the original teaching of Gautama, revived and purified, may yet play a large part in the direction of human destiny."
  
  Karl Gustav Jung (The World's Leading Psychologist From Zurich)
  
  " As a student of comparative religions, i believe that Buddhism is the most perfect one that the world has ever seen. The philosophy of the Buddha, the theory of evolution and the law of karma were far superior to any other creed."
  
  Bhikkhu Anoma Mahinda
  
  " buddha taught facts of nature, twenty five centuries ago, which western scientists have only discovered in the last decade. The dhamma is the greatest living force in the world today which can bring among men and nations."
  
  Thomas Huxley (Famous British Scientist and Evolutionist):
  
  " Buddhism is a system which knows no god in the western sense, which denies a soul to man and counts the belief in immortality a blunder, which refuses any efficacy to prayer and sacrifice, which bids men to look to nothing but their own effort for salvation, which in its original purity knew nothing of the vows of obedience and never sought the aid of secular arm, yet spread over a considerable portion of the world with marvellous rapidity and is still the dominant creed of a large fraction of mankind."
  
  
• From: Rohit (@ cpc1-nfds4-3-0-cust212.nott.cable.ntl.com) on: Sat Jan 17 15:42:17 EST 2004
  
  Albert Einstein (twentieth century most famous scientist):
  
  " If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs, it would be Buddhism."
  
  Does God Play Dice?
  
  Find out
  
  http://www.hawking.org.uk/pdf/dice.pdf
  
  
• From: Rohit (@ cpc1-nfds4-3-0-cust212.nott.cable.ntl.com) on: Sat Jan 17 15:47:04 EST 2004
  
  Does God Play Dice?
  
  Einstein was very unhappy about this apparent randomness in
  nature. His views were summed up in his famous phrase, 'God
  does not play dice'. He seemed to have felt that the
  uncertainty was only provisional: but that there was an
  underlying reality, in which particles would have well defined
  positions and speeds, and would evolve according to
  deterministic laws, in the spirit of Laplace. This reality might be
  known to God, but the quantum nature of light would prevent
  us seeing it, except through a glass darkly.
  Einstein's view was what would now be called, a hidden
  variable theory. Hidden variable theories might seem to be the most obvious way to
  incorporate the Uncertainty Principle into physics. They form the basis of the mental picture of
  the universe, held by many scientists, and almost all philosophers of science. But these hidden
  variable theories are wrong. The British physicist, John Bell, who died recently, devised an
  experimental test that would distinguish hidden variable theories. When the experiment was
  carried out carefully, the results were inconsistent with hidden variables. Thus it seems that
  even God is bound by the Uncertainty Principle, and can not know both the position, and the
  speed, of a particle. So God does play dice with the universe. All the evidence points to him
  being an inveterate gambler, who throws the dice on every possible occasion.
  
  Find out
  
  http://www.hawking.org.uk/pdf/dice.pdf
  
  
  
  
• From: Rohit (@ cpc1-nfds4-3-0-cust212.nott.cable.ntl.com) on: Sat Jan 17 15:49:41 EST 2004
  
  Then: Albert Einstein (twentieth century most famous scientist): came to a very profound conclusion:
  
  " If there is any religion that would cope with modern scientific needs, it would be Buddhism."
  
  
• From: Star (@ adsl-68-75-45-141.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) on: Sat Jan 17 20:18:13 EST 2004
  
  "When I read the Bhagavad-Gita and reflect about how God created this universe everything else seems so superfluous," said Albert Einstein."
  
  http://hinduism.about.com/b/a/2003_12_05.htm
  
  ???!!!
  
  
  
• From: mummudicholan (@ 195.145.21.42) on: Sat Jan 17 23:01:25 EST 2004
  
  Pun-dai Star
  
  First tell me if your mother disinfects her dildo after she fukks you in the anus with it!
  
  
• From: mummudicholan (@ 195.145.21.42) on: Sat Jan 17 23:09:50 EST 2004
  
  PUN-DAI STAR AND HIS MOTHER HAVE REVERSE SEX!
  
  Star's mother strapped on the Dildo that she got as a christmas present from one of her nightly customers. Star watched in fascination as his mother went thru
  the maneuver of buckling it near her cunt. It was a perfect dildo with a full set of balls and even some fake pubic hair on the top.
  
  Star said "Mom, are you gonna fukk me with that monster dildo? I don't think my Anus can widen enough to accomodate it!"
  
  Star's mother responded "Relax sonny! I have done this with your sister many times, that too up her butt. So don't be a pussy and come here you ba$tardo!"
  
  Star whimpered like a whipped dog and slowly took off his pants and got into the bed with his mother. Star's mother always had a brash laugh whenever she
  saw her son's tiny genitals. She had a weird way of laughing, like a donkey's braying combined with a buffalo mooing.
  
  Star had hormonal trouble as a teenager and he never matured as a man. He had slight bumps in his chest due to male type breast growth and his prick was
  really tiny like a snail. The funniest thing happens when it gets erect. It looks like a half smoked beedi, almost like a spaghetti noodle.
  
  Star could easily pass for a woman except for his hideously ugly pig-like face. Star's mother always lamented that if only he looked a bit more presentable, she
  could let her customers have him. As it is she and Star's sister had to work round the clock in the prostitution circles to make ends meet.
  
  Star's mother pushed her son rudely down and plunged the dildo deep into his rectum. "Mother that hurts!!!!! " screamed Star as his mother started ramming
  the dildo in and out of his bleeding rectum.
  
  Star's mother responded "Son recite Shri Rama Jeyam a hundred times and imagine that this is really Shri Rama's PRICK in your A$$. The pain will go
  away!"
  
  

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