Harappan ruins dated to 3200 BC
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From Deccan Chronicle - Jan 30,2002
Hyderabad, Jan. 29: Excavations in Hissar district of Haryana during the last five years have yielded findings that suggest that the rise of Harappan civilisation had stared around 3200 BC.
This was revealed by Archaeological Survey of India Director, Excavations, Amarendra Nath during a lecture at Salar Jung Museum on Tuesday.
Nath who was in the city for the last three days, extended his stay by a day to speak on Archeological discoveries at Harappan site, Rakhigarhi, and its cultural significance.
He divided the Harappan civilisation into three phases — Early Period that started from 3200 BC to 2500 BC; Matured Period that began in 2500 BC and reached its zenith in 1900 BC and Later Period that took off from 1900 BC and remained till 1600 BC.
In 1997, he said, excavations were undertaken in Rakhigarhi area of Hissar district and carried out for three “field seasons” or winters.
To the surprise of the investigators the sites began giving evidence that the early Harappan people lived in organised settlements that hitherto was thought to be the phenomenon of the Matured era.
The people of the era also knew the use of copper, wove carpet-like cloth, coloured it at specially made dying ghat and performed religious rituals such as animal sacrifice. They buried their women who wore metallic ornaments and ivory bangles.
There are two places in Rakhigarhi that are known as Rakhi Khas and Rakhi Shah, he said. The excavation sites in these places are spread over an area of 236 hectare.
It was discovered that the people in the Early Period built circular houses. The pattern of these housing units changed over to square and rectangle during the
Matured Era. The circular houses were built by burnt bricks layers of which are still found fitted in the walls. They started using copper around 2700 BC because there is evidence of smelter plant like structure.
Copper implements such as a needle with a hole in the head that could have been used for knitting or weaving some kind of cloth; a knife like piece that is normally used by carpet weavers and, an arrow-headed metal piece were found indicating that the people were involved in craftsmanship of some level.
There were also finds such as tops, whistles, discs etc. that indicated the people also played some form of sports.
Against the backdrop of new findings, Nath said, archaeologists and historians should look at the Harappan civilisation from a new perspective.
“Our experts need to change their mindset and try to understand that the evolution of that civilisation had begun as early as 3200 BC,” he said.
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- From: davie (@ meta114847.utep.edu)
on: Thu Nov 11 17:47:59 EST 2004
Even before that we had a literature and culture which was good or even better than similar time period civilizations like egyptian or greek.
the so called indus valley civilization was in afganistan/pakistan, which is just a part of mediterranean.
SUN TANNING CAUSES SKIN COLOR.
so dravidians have got their skin color tanned.
so we have brown/blak dravidians.
but ALL INDIANS ARE OF THE SAME RACE AND ARE LIKE BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
we are not related with africans simply because we dont have all the features of africans (eg. afr hair) except the skin color. if anyone assumes a white skin to these dravidians, there will be no difference.
even small kids can understand these concepts.
aryan invasion is the term given by british people to mention the muslim mediterranen invaders into india
AGAIN MOST OF THE WEBSITES GIVE WRONG INFORMATION.
IF U SHOW ME A JOURNAL RRESEARCH PAPER I READY TO ACCEPT THINGS.
- From: davie (@ meta114847.utep.edu)
on: Thu Nov 11 17:48:14 EST 2004
JUST DONT REFER TO WEBSITES. that is the only thing i can say.
these african websites just say all black people are of their race.
- From: davie (@ meta114847.utep.edu)
on: Thu Nov 11 17:50:07 EST 2004
TANTRIX UR ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
THERE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT IMMIGRATION INTO INDIA AT VARIOUS PERIODS OF TIME.
india is just near to china and europe
- From: davie (@ meta114847.utep.edu)
on: Thu Nov 11 17:53:12 EST 2004
and linda why do u say that fair people in india are cute.
black people in india are also cute and look the same like those fair ones with skin color being the difference
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- From: Dhaval (@ lmb19.path.ox.ac.uk)
on: Sun Dec 19 13:17:27
Irrelevant argument. Sanskrit word for monkey has always been 'vanar' becos monkeys are human-like and live in jungles, that itself should be enough to prove that vanars were a species of anthropological apes. Moreover the description of vanars and their tails as well as other monkey like features are uneqvivocal. Rather than tortuously bending the evidences towards Aryan Invasion theory (which was never proved by any evidence, and stand routed now by contrary evidences ), is a specious argument to fit everything into a nehruvian marxist model.
- From: Dhaval (@ lmb19.path.ox.ac.uk)
on: Sun Dec 19 13:28:13 EST 2004
The evidences which have surfaced have shown that the ancient Egyptians came from a land called 'Punt' which was riche in exotic spices and herbs. The names mentioned in the list of spices and botonical species are found only in India. Their description of 'a land bound on three sides by sea' also fits in and points towards the malabar coast of India, in Kerela. Other evidences which go against the aryan invasion theory include the deciphering of Indus valley script which points towards the existence of Saraswati (3000BC) mentioned in rigved so often. geological records of saraswati also indicate that it dried about the same time. So the actual vedic age was probabaly earlier than 5000BC at least. For eg: geological records show that kashmir was a lake around 50,000BC and the ancient sanskrit texts mention the same thing. All the evidences archeological or otherwise indicate towards the unbroken continuity of the Vedic civilization and its indigeneousness.
- From: davie (@ ecc-24.ecc.utep.edu)
on: Sun Dec 19 14:42:06 EST 2004
// The evidences which have surfaced have shown that the ancient Egyptians came from a land called 'Punt' which was riche in exotic spices and herbs. The names mentioned in the list of spices and botonical species are found only in India//.
FOR THIS LINE MY ANSWER IS PLANTS AND ANIMALS BEING COMMON IN DIFFERENT CONTINENTS OCCURED DURING THE TIME OF DINASAURS. IF WE FIND TIGERS IN AFRICA, INDIA AND CHINA IT MEANS THAT U CAN ALSO FIND DINASAUR FOSSIL REMAINS IN ALL THESE COUNTRIES, THESE OCCURED LONG BACK BEFORE EVEN HUMAN EVOLUTION.
for the last few lines i will say that ITS CLEAR THAT THE LINEANTS OF HARAPPAN/INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATIONS WROTE THOSE VEDHAS.
as ur argument also relates that saraswati dried when rig vedha was written. saraswati river formed the main progenitor of the indus valley and dravidian civilizations.
So, u know its all interesting to know the origin of these vedhas and brahmins
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