Topic started by mayilvahanan (@ 213.42.2.9) on Sun Jul 27 00:29:44 .
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1 Corinthians 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

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• From: Ramadas (@ dclient217-162-115-14.hispeed.ch) on: Sun Jul 27 00:50:41 EDT 2003
  
  Good Idea. Why don't all christians obey!
  
  
• From: Seshadri (@ 240.147.3.213.dial.bluewin.ch) on: Sun Jul 27 03:21:44 EDT 2003
  
  "good for a man not to touch a woman"
  
  and ensure extiction of human race ?????
  
  
• From: Ramadas (@ dclient217-162-115-14.hispeed.ch) on: Sun Jul 27 04:02:41 EDT 2003
  
  Seshadri,
  First forumhubber I noted from Switz other than me. I am from Zurich. Contact me if interested on janaki_ramadas@hotmail.com
  
  
• From: Kajan (@ cpe0050ba1669c3-cm014110219722.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Sun Jul 27 04:43:35 EDT 2003
  
  Ramadas,
  
  If u don't mind, can u answer my question ? Is ch related to Switz ?
  
  
• From: Ramadas (@ dclient217-162-115-14.hispeed.ch) on: Sun Jul 27 05:23:13 EDT 2003
  
  of course, Kajan.
  CH stands for "Confederatio Helvetica" which is the actual name of what we call as Switzerland. The three letter short form for Swiss Frank is CHF. All zipcodes of Switz start with CH-. For example mine is CH-8050.
  
  
• From: mmc (@ 203.122.47.198) on: Sun Jul 27 05:50:49 EDT 2003
  
  oh..i thought that ramadoss is from china! :))
  
  
• From: Ramadas (@ dclient217-162-115-14.hispeed.ch) on: Sun Jul 27 05:56:17 EDT 2003
  
  ha ha ha ha
  
  
• From: Kajan (@ cpe0050ba1669c3-cm014110219722.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) on: Sun Jul 27 08:34:45 EDT 2003
  
  Ramadas thx for info.
  
  time of ur posting has been an indication that u r from Europe.
  
  
• From: Seshadri (@ 127.147.3.213.dial.bluewin.ch) on: Sun Jul 27 11:04:41 EDT 2003
  
  Ramadas,
  
  I am posting from Geneva.
  
  I would love to get in touch with you, soon.
  
  Thank you.
  
  
• From: :) (@ d150-188-97.home.cgocable.net) on: Sun Jul 27 13:48:25 EDT 2003
  
  "From: Ramadas (@ dclient217-162-115-14.hispeed.ch) on: Sun Jul 27 00:50:41 EDT 2003
  
  
  Good Idea. Why don't all christians obey!"
  
  
  What's your point Ramadas? Any agendas?
  
  
• From: Shakthi (@ 203-195-199-244.now-india.net.in) on: Mon Jul 28 03:27:24 EDT 2003
  
  mayilvahanan,
  
  There is always somethigns as CONTEXT
  
  what was there before that sentence?
  what comes after that etc?
  
  No single sentence on its own would have value or meaning unless its a proverb!
  
  
• From: Roshan (@ 203.115.13.90) on: Mon Jul 28 03:41:48 EDT 2003
  
  Shakthi,
  WOW!!!! That was an excellent one. Most of the hate mongers here just take one sentence without knowing what comes before that and what come after. These hate mongers do not understand what is a "CONTEXT". Only a handfull of like minded hate mongers will support such people.
  
  
• From: Karuvayan (@ cs2417534-176.austin.rr.com) on: Mon Jul 28 06:20:18 EDT 2003
  
  http://www.religioustolerance.org/christ.htm
  
  Best website for christianity - and the horrors it cause like Adolf Hitler, Timothy McVeigh, Joseph Goebbels, Henrich Himmler, Pope and 1 billion nutcases.
  
  
• From: mmc (@ netcache.spectranet.com) on: Mon Jul 28 09:52:23 EDT 2003
  
  ///Good Idea. Why don't all christians obey!///
  
  oopsss :)) I didnt see this bit! enna ramados annachi neengalum hindutva goons kooda sernthuteengala??
  
  but , couldnt control my laughter yet....nalla kusumbar aiya neer!! :)))))
  
  
• From: Raj (@ 12.163.39.254) on: Mon Jul 28 10:25:56 EDT 2003
  
  Shakthi,
  Please check the following versus which comes after 1 Corinthians 7:1
  
  ---------
  
  1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
  
  -----------
  
  2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
  3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
  4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
  5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
  
  
• From: mayilvahanan (@ 213.42.2.8) on: Sun Aug 10 01:28:56 EDT 2003
  
  Shakthi, Roshan,
  I dont know what a hate monger is.
  Now, look at my question. it is only a query concerning the relative advantage for a christian
  who does'nt marry. (I asked, if it is better not to marry?)
  Now please answer to me without inhibitions and prejudice.
  
  
• From: Shekhar (@ 61.1.142.176) on: Sun Aug 10 09:22:47 EDT 2003
  
  Shakti, Roshan and others,
  
  "Now, look at my question. it is only a query concerning the relative advantage for a christian
  who does'nt marry. (I asked, if it is better not to marry?)
  Now please answer to me without inhibitions and prejudice."
  
  For once a forumhubber is on the threashold of a wise decision not to marry and you women make mockery of his dilemma.
  
  Mr Mayilvahanan,
  It is not a question of whether you are a christian or not. It is whether you are a man or a woman. If you are a man try your best not to marry, but I don't think you will suceed. Women out there, one after the other, will conspire to push you in to wedlock (LOCK), because they have all the advantages in a marriage, and hardly any man has the stamina to resist for long. He is destined and doomed to be a husband.
  If you want to derive strengh and support to resist, confide with any man who is married for more than 6 months! Best of luck!!!
  
  
• From: mayilvahanan (@ 213.42.2.8) on: Mon Aug 11 02:15:47 EDT 2003
  
  Dear Shekhar
  Thanks for the strength and support u have given me. Now that I have all the resistance power, I dont' want to confide with anybody. But we are talking about the positive interpretation of a biblical writ. I am sure u have better things to say.
  
  
• From: :) (@ d150-40-7.home.cgocable.net) on: Mon Aug 11 07:59:28 EDT 2003
  
  Any interpretation (whether it is good or bad) has to be seen in context, otherwise it is conceit and a lie. So let me repeat Raj's post here for everyone's benefit.
  
  
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  From: Raj (@ 12.163.39.254) on: Mon Jul 28 10:25:56 EDT 2003
  
  
  Shakthi,
  Please check the following versus which comes after 1 Corinthians 7:1
  
  ---------
  
  1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
  
  -----------
  
  2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
  3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
  4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
  5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
  
  
• From: :) (@ d150-40-7.home.cgocable.net) on: Mon Aug 11 08:01:52 EDT 2003
  
  "(I asked, if it is better not to marry?) "
  
  Well, the answer to that question would depend on your understanding is what a marriage is.
  
  So, mayilvahanan, the question is coming back to you. What is marriage for you? What are the reasons YOU would want to marry?
  
  
• From: KAM (@ 161.65-104.adsl.ij.net) on: Mon Aug 11 08:46:04 EDT 2003
  
  Mayilvahanan,
  
  If you want to become a true Christian... a true and noble christian , then you should follow the example of Jesus Christ.
  
  Jesus Christ and Mary are role models for every Christian man and woman to emulate and live accordingly.
  
  Peace be unto you !
  
  :-))
  
  
• From: KAM (@ 161.65-104.adsl.ij.net) on: Mon Aug 11 08:50:29 EDT 2003
  
  What I meant was every christian man should abstain from Marriage , like your Jesus Christ, the saviour of christians.
  
  Neither Jesus nor his disciples married. Every Christian should emulate such great souls.
  
  :-))
  
  
• From: mayilvahananpillai (@ ac0.emirates.net.ae) on: Mon Aug 11 09:37:39 EDT 2003
  
  ->>>>What is marriage for you? What are the reasons YOU would want to marry?
  
  I am not any exceptional case. Marriage has its own physical , mental and social objectives.
  Again somebody here is concerned about my marriage.. I repeat ..question is about a biblical writ, which applies to mankind in general. My marriage is not expected to be the discussion and may be left alone as 'my own business'.
  
  
• From: :) (@ d150-40-7.home.cgocable.net) on: Mon Aug 11 09:40:00 EDT 2003
  
  "I repeat ..question is about a biblical writ, which applies to mankind in general."
  
  Then read it in context :) unless you have some hidden agenda in which case I will leave you to your own hallucinations.
  
  
• From: Keezhkottam Arunmozhi Mazhavarayan (@ 161.65-104.adsl.ij.net) on: Wed Aug 13 07:14:40 EDT 2003
  
  [[[Jesus said, "Blessed are those who are alone and chosen, for you will find the kingdom. For you have come from it, and you will return there again."]]]]]]
  
  
• From: Star (@ dial0-353.dialin.uic.edu) on: Tue Mar 30 03:44:29
  
  [[[Jesus said, "Blessed are those who are alone and chosen, for you will find the kingdom. For you have come from it, and you will return there again."]]]]]]
  
  Does this include,
  
  (1) Fat man in Rome
  
  (2) Pedophile priests
  
  (3) Christian missionaries
  
  ???
  
  
• From: RJ (@ 203.126.114.18) on: Tue Mar 30 04:01:07 EST 2004
  
  It Does not include
  
  1.Homo Saibaba (ref lot of americans started web sites after become victim of SAI Baba)
  
  2.And those Worshiping peni s of Shiva(Lingam)
  
  3.And those Hindu Holymans(Samiyar)arrested for conducting Sexual Ashrams.
  
  4. And all the imaginary characters(Rama,hanuman...) from the imaginary stories like
  Ramayana , Mahabharatha.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: RJ (@ 203.126.114.18) on: Tue Mar 30 04:05:45 EST 2004
  
  HI All
  
  
  Only Bible Talks from Origin of Earth , creation of all creatures , including man & woman
  
  Then goes to Universal Flood - Noah s Ark(evidence available).
  
  And for all the Kings Ruled , there is evidence for each Biblical chapters.
  
  That easily proove that There is only one God , that is Christian God.
  
  No need to eloborate more
  
  Read & do reseach in bible
  
  
• From: alabaster (@ bess-proxy.trin.edu) on: Tue Apr 6 13:55:39 EDT 2004
  
  Was Jesus a liar or Is it garbage? YOUR PICK!!!
  
  
  
  By: Shahid Bin Waheed
  
  
  In the Gospel according to Matthew, Jesus is allegedly reported to have said the following in chapters 10 and 16:
  
  
  
  010:023
  But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
  
  
  
  
  016:027
  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
  
  016:028
  Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
  
  
  
  
  These two statements cited above, precisely suggests that only one of the two things can and are possible, or perhaps both according to New Testament:
  
  
  
  1. Jesus was a LIAR, or
  
  2. It is GARBAGE, not gospel
  
  
  
  Christians cannot have both ways, i.e. (1) Jesus was a god and/or son of god; and (2) Bible is word of God. Though, examining the verses cited above proves that BOTH ARE FALSE (false god and/or son of god and/or false book).
  
  
  
  Let us ask Christians to make a choice and pick one out of the following two:
  
  
  
  1. Jesus was a liar!
  
  2. It is garbage not gospel!
  
  
  
  The absurd claims made in Matthew 10:23 and 16:27-28 are certainly wrongly been attributed to Jesus because all those “standing here” (16:28) have already been dead for almost 2000 years, and none of them saw Son of Man (allegedly Jesus) coming into his so-called kingdom, BECAUSE HE NEVER DID COME as of today i.e. 07-08-2003!
  
  
  
  Matthew 10:23 (Jesus supposedly addressing his disciples) is also OBVIOUSLY absurd, because Jesus’ disciples did travel and almost all got persecuted except John, who committed suicide. AGAIN, Son of Man (Jesus) remained NO SHOW. Jesus didn’t come as of today.
  
  
  
  Conclusion!
  
  
  
  It is fair when we demand Christians’ to stop pussyfooting around myths and LIES, and admit least one of the two ABOVE, if not both. THAT EITHER JESUS WAS A LIAR OR WHAT IS IN THE GOSPEL, IN FACT IS GARBAGE NOT THE TRUTH, which constitutes that Bible is NOT the word of God, which in fact not.
  
  
  
  Readers are advised to keep this fact in mind that what is presented above is one proof out of thousands, that are in the Bible
  
  
  
  Also read:
  
  Bible’s missing books, and WHY ARE THEY MISSING?
  
  http://www.geocities.com/sbwus/Liar-or-Garbage.htm
  
  

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