Topic started by Arasan (@ 166.121.37.113) on Tue Aug 14 21:36:14 .
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Hey folks, i donno how many of ya will actually post questions that will stick to the subject but i am gonna give it a go..Religion about God and God only (if possible references to the Quran only)...No hero/idol worship (be it money or a statue of a half-naked Venus or some prophet or whatever).
God bless ....

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• From: mitu,nither misunderstood nor confused (@ dialpool-210-214-204-129.maa.sify.net) on: Fri Aug 17 13:17:20
  
  Hi arsan
  U want peace well I never wanted a confrontation but was forced by ur few words. Now I am forced to react to few words u wrote in ur last response.
  U wrote and I quote ” Not against Hindus who wanna retain Kashmir, not against Hindus who hate Pakistan or Hindus who may do bad things to the Muslims in India” will u explain these lines I thought it is all Indians who are trying to retain Kashmir as it is an part of India not only Hindus and when I say Indians it includes you also (atleast I hope so) , then to ur second statement, I must clarify we don’t hate Pakistan neither Hindus nor Indians as a whole but we don’t trust them. Ur third statement can u be little specific dear, which Hindus did harm to Muslims of India.
  When u r saying something check ur words before saying.
  And u said this ” It is for monotheists!! And not for polytheists!!! I will say it one more time so those with thick skulls will understand-if you do not like this topic JUST KEEP OUT!!!”
  May be I can send some information to ur thick skulls that Hinduism is not about polytheist or monotheist only but we have the reference to both in Hinduism. That’s why we have Dweita Vedanta (dual/ poly) and Adweita Vedanta (Single/mono).
  So from now on I hope u will try to weigh ur words before posting it.
  And one more thing it is completely up to me in what name I will refer to god I can say Jesus, Allah, Bhagwan or Pravu.
  
  Thank u
  
  
  
  
  
• From: arasan (@ 166.121.36.7) on: Fri Aug 17 21:22:12
  
  "It is for monotheists!! And not for polytheists!!! I will say it one more time so those with thick skulls will understand-if you do not like this topic JUST KEEP OUT!!!”"
  READ THE SECOND SENTENCE!!!!!!!!!!!WHO DO NOT LIKE THIS TOPIC>>>>
  It is okay to hear you are not confused but misunderstood i will leave it to you..
  About my points.Did you ever read the what they have posted in the forum so far..I said Hindus....go into the forum and see for yourselves posts about mistreatment against dalists and such.I have friends from India who are now living in singapore who have told me about such things..okay? I read before i say anything..
  hello friend, my dear pal, you are talking to soemone with a hindu background..no need to tell me about hinduism..polytheism or monotheism..okay?Almost every hindu family(shaivite ot vishnuvite) has its own beliefs.i came from a Monothestic Hindu family which at one time did not celebrate deepavali. No deities ( remember i used the word deities) were in the house.Back in schoolsdays a friend of mine worshipped Kali and this put off a lot of other hindus.One was promoting the beautiful "Murugan" and another "Aiyappan".Some even went to mosques churches....I took Hindu Studies and it way diferent from what was practiced.Even in this forum there was a post about shaivism that wants to be refarded as a movemnet on its own..what can i say? every religion with the help of a few bearded ascetics(be it hindu or moslem)create a lot of divisions and seperations..I left things there...Do not talk to me about Hinduism...i know it quite well enough..
  
  
• From: arasan-rock and roll storm..skull tattoo (@ 166.121.36.7) on: Fri Aug 17 22:03:35
  
  Pravu? a new word ..
  "I thought it is all Indians who are trying to retain Kashmir as it is an part of India not only Hindus and when I say Indians it includes you also (atleast I hope so)"
  well...OF COURSE THE BIGGER THE INDIA THE BETTER IT WILL BE..econimically ..more land more biz oppurtunities, If Kashmir falls into the hands of pakistan, the taliban cockroaches wil infest it and it will be damn ugly.....
  
  One thing about "indian" A tamil living in S'pore is addressesd as an "Indian" but a Tamil from from Sri Lanka is thrown into the "others" category.i know i side tracked but it really bothers me...
  
  ISI-the Inter (?) services intelligence- can go to hell...
  
  
• From: sathyadevan (@ cache1-0.ruh.isu.net.sa) on: Sat Aug 18 16:38:23
  
  
  
  HINDUISM Exposed !!!!
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  Be proud to be a Dalit, the original inhabitants of this ancient land.
  Let us walk with our head high. Let us be proud of our Dalit culture. Black is beautiful. The word, Dalit, is the other extreme of the word Brahmin. The Brahmin cult should be destroyed and buried 100 fathoms deep.
  http://www.dalitstan.org/
  http://pub7.ezboard.com/fhinduismexposedhinduism
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Khalistan (@ cache1-0.ruh.isu.net.sa) on: Sat Aug 18 16:44:42
  
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• From: HotNews (@ 203.199.242.26) on: Sun Aug 26 06:25:03
  
  JERUSALEM--In a surprise announcement with far-reaching theological implications, Jesus Christ The Nazarene, founder of Christianity and spiritual leader of nearly two billion people, revealed Monday that He has converted to "the one true religion" of Islam.
  
  
  Above: Christ (left) consults with his new spiritual advisor, the Righteous Hassan Abdul al-Aziz.
  The controversial announcement has sent shockwaves through religious circles around the globe.
  
  "Allah is the name of the One and Only God," Christ said. "Allah has 99 beautiful names: He is known as The Gracious, The Merciful, The Beneficent, The Creator, The All-Knowing, The All-Wise, The Lord Of The Universe, The First, The Last and many more. He has revealed Himself unto Me through the holy words of the blessed Qur'an, and I have put My trust and faith in Him."
  
  As part of His conversion, Christ said He has taken a new name, Isa Ibn Maryam al-Salaam Christ Shabazz.
  
  Christ, 33, is urging Christians worldwide to renounce His former religion of Christianity and join Him in embracing the Muslim way of life.
  
  "People of all nations, in the past, you have heard Me say that whosoever shall believe in Me shall not die, but have eternal life," Christ said. "But now, I say unto you, forget I ever said that. There is only one holy revelation of Allah, the Qur'an, which was dictated to the Prophet Mohammed, Praise Be Unto Him, by the Archangel Jibreel in the seventh century after I died."
  
  According to Christ, the beauty and perfection of the Qur'an's Surahs are without equal in all creation, encompassing and surpassing both the Judaic Torah and the New Testament Gospels of His apostles. The former Christian messiah went on to cite Surah Aal'imraan 3:67, which reads, "This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion."
  
  "What could be more clear?" Christ said.
  
  "I was wrong, and I know that now," He added. "I deeply regret any problems or confusion I may have caused."
  
  The controversial retraction of two millennia of Christian doctrine has provoked strongly divided reaction. Millions of devout Christians, insisting that obeisance to Christ's commands is the cornerstone of their faith, have heeded His instructions and converted to Islam. Millions more, however, have decried the recalcitrant Christ's apostasy, breaking ties with Him and calling His conversion "a heathen act" of "utmost blasphemy before Himself."
  
  "Jesus, or Isa Shabazz, or whatever He's calling Himself these days, is the way, the truth and the light. It says so in the Bible," said devout Catholic Kathleen Langan of Cork, Ireland, kneeling toward Mecca for the first time. "My loyalty to Him is absolute. If He told me to be a Buddhist, I'd do it. All praise and thanks to Allah."
  
  Ruth-Anne Girolamo, a Sunday school teacher in Stillwater, OK, disagreed. "I've been a Bible-believing Christian all my life, and nothing, not even a direct order from Christ Himself, is going to change that," Girolamo said. "If Christ is going to leave the fold and become a sinner, we'll just have to go on worshipping Him against His will."
  
  
  Above: Christ (uppermost left) joins fellow Muslims in prayer.
  The Roman Catholic Church is just as divided: Approximately half the members of the Vatican's College of Cardinals have advocated embracing Islamic law, while the other half is calling for Christ's immediate excommunication and recommending the interim worship of Pope John Paul II until a suitable replacement deity can be found.
  
  In perhaps the oddest development, the Jews For Jesus organization announced Monday that it has split into three separate groups: Jews Still For Jesus, Jews For Allah, and Jews For Just Being Jews Again.
  
  Christ said He arrived at the decision to convert after centuries of deep soul-searching and contemplation. But it was not until last week's Good Friday holiday, He said, that His true spiritual path became clear.
  
  "I was in church, watching all these people hold a candlelight vigil on the day of My crucifixion, when I suddenly felt a profound sense of emptiness," Christ said. "I got up and walked out, and just sort of wandered aimlessly for a while, wondering what it all meant. Then, I saw something I'd never noticed before. At the mosque down the street, supplicants were gathering to celebrate their weekly holy day of worship, which, by sheer coincidence, happens to be Friday."
  
  "I walked in nervously, unsure of why I was even there. After all, during the Crusades, My followers had slaughtered thousands of these people in My name, and I thought maybe they wouldn't accept Me," Christ said. "But as I listened to the Imam deliver the weekly sermon, or khutba, I felt the power of Allah in My heart. For the first time, I knew I'd found true inner peace."
  
  "I now know it wasn't random chance that brought Me to that mosque," Christ continued. "It was the will of Allah."
  
  When asked about His future plans, Christ said His next move will be to undertake the Hajj, the holy pilgrimage to Mecca all Muslims are required to make at least once in a lifetime. After that, Christ said He hopes to take a few months off to rest and meditate before starting the next phase of His ministry: traveling to churches around the world and imploring the Christian faithful to stop believing in Him.
  
  "My new spiritual advisor, the Righteous Hassan Abdul al-Aziz, has explained to Me that I am not--nor was I ever--actually the Son of God, but merely one of many Prophets of the divine revelation which was to come after Me," Christ said. "After all, there is only one God, so any belief in a triune god, or 'trinity,' is polytheistic and contradicts the word of Allah Himself."
  
  "For it is written, in Surah Al-Maa'idah 5:116, 'And behold, Allah will say--O Jesus Son of Mary, did you say to men, worship me and my mother as gods beside Allah? He will reply--Glory to you, I could never say what I had no right [to say].'" Christ said. "You see? It turns out, worshipping Me isn't the key to the Gates of Heaven, after all. Salvation can only be found in the Five Pillars of Shahada, Salat, Saum, Zakat and Hajj. I can't believe how obvious it all seems to Me now."
  
  Neither the Father nor the Holy Ghost could be reached for comment.
  
  
  

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