Topic started by Nisarga (@ 203-195-202-25.now-india.net.in) on Thu Feb 14 01:12:03 .
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Offlate I have been seeing south indian girls/boys romancing in front of their parents.
Engagement does not give them the full right to kiss/cuddle in public.
In a recent wedding I attended, the bride and the groom (progithargal padai soozha) were smooching each other soon after the muhurtham. Agreed it is an important moment for them.
But do we need to forget our culture?

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• From: Nisala (@ ac93cb4f.ipt.aol.com) on: Fri Mar 1 01:37:23
  
  TB,
  
  Don't get too mad at Dr. Ramesh. He accidentally thought I was a female but I didn't get angry with him or anything. He is like a child with his wonder of relationships and the opposite sex. And don't forget that he is scared of you.
  
  I'm not scared of you, though!
  
  "if the sex is as free as anywhere else"
  "Is it only in Indian culture that the sanctity of sex exists?"
  
  Actually I would argue the entire opposite of what you both said. You can find the sanctity of sex in any culture and in any region. The challenge is to find people who value it so much that they can treat it as a near-sacred thing.
  
  "Do you think this cannot be achieved in premarital sex with one partner?"
  
  Where did I say anything bad about premarital sex? (and you blame Dr. Ramesh for jumping to conclusions!) I see marriage as little more than a social contract that involves the recognition of a government. I like what Shakti said about premarital sex- that the next logical step is marriage because the two are already in love (though I highly disagree that people do this only in India).
  
  
  
• From: Vinod (@ 61.1.142.153) on: Sun Mar 3 00:59:59
  
  TB,
  
  ###Commitment requires the amalgamation of two souls, etc. Marriage is just an announcement of this commitment ###
  
  Is marriage a necessary sequel to this commitment? Isn't marriage a different notion altogether, more social than personal, especially in India? Can't we see such committment out side marriage too?
  
  
• From: fridge (@ netcache6.is.co.za) on: Tue Mar 5 04:25:21
  
  Nisala
  "You can find the sanctity of sex"
  I do not undersatnd the sanctity bit, please explain, Are you refering to a spiritual level of sex.
  
  Vindod
  Is marriage a necessary sequel to this commitment? Isn't marriage a different notion altogether, more social than personal, especially in India? Can't we see such committment out side marriage too?
  I do not know who invented marriage. But I personaly like that it is there?
  I am sure that you can see such commitment outside marriage, but depending on your background and environment a lot of people just survive better in a relationship with a title attached to it, Like roleplayers in society, married people act out certain roles. the common law partner does not feel 100% attached to his or her partner, there is commitment but lacking in something concrete, there seems to always be an easier way out.
  
  
• From: Nisala (@ ac8aa1fa.ipt.aol.com) on: Wed Mar 6 23:01:57
  
  "I do not undersatnd the sanctity bit, please explain, Are you refering to a spiritual level of sex."
  
  Yes, I am. It is the spiritual aspect that can make the sexual act almost sacred. I believe that sex without some kind of spirituality is yet another repetitive, boring task.
  
  Though the institution of marriage may involve religious invocations, I do not believe it alone can provide this spiritual aspect. Hence the loveless, sex-deprived marriages we often see.
  
  
• From: Vinod (@ 61.1.142.187) on: Wed Mar 6 23:19:42
  
  Nisala,
  
  ##Yes, I am. It is the spiritual aspect that can make the sexual act almost sacred. I believe that sex without some kind of spirituality is yet another repetitive, boring task.##
  
  You are very right.
  I may add that sex without mututal respect, mututal trust, and mutual appreciation is dreary. I also believe that a person who has no self esteem cannot realise the joy and peace sex could bring.
  
  
• From: fridge (@ proxy.ndf.mweb.co.za) on: Sun Mar 10 12:12:59
  
  Nisala
  "Yes, I am. It is the spiritual aspect that can make the sexual act almost sacred. I believe that sex without some kind of spirituality is yet another repetitive, boring task."
  
  Would you not agree that the act of sex is spiritual in itself. I do not think that one can enjoy sex without exchanging some type of mutual bonding, maybe a compromise on what is wanted or expected, I am not refering to people talking about what they want, there is an obvious language between two people having sex, this is the spiritual aspect. This should not be mistaken for love.
  Infact I think that love leaves the bedroom when people want to have sex, Maybe It comes back afterwards when People cuddle and talk mush But during the act of sex No love, Only lust my boy.
  
  Vinod
  I agree that sex without trust, mutual respect etc is dreary,
  
  "a person who has no self esteem cannot realise the joy and peace sex could bring."
  Oh come on, don't go there. If this Ties in with love comes to people with self esteem and all of that, then I disagree,
  I feel that a person with high self esteem does not need the love of another person before engaging in sex. A person with a high self esteem can realise the spritualness of two bodies and the enjoyment of sex without complicating it with love, Stating that love comes into this states that one has to be dependant on another person's feelings and conditions etc.
  The joy and peace after sex that you talk about could be a physical feeling that everyone experiences after sex, A basic need, It's like this, you feel thirsty, Drink water = joy and peace, The same with sex.
  Now if more people thought like me, there would be less divorces in the world.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Vinod (@ 61.1.142.115) on: Tue Mar 12 23:19:46
  
  fridge,
  
  We are on a completely different plane altogether. It is as though trying to equate water running out of tap with the flow of the Ganges. You don't seem to have an inkling of what I am trying to say.
  
  
• From: fridge (@ netcache7.is.co.za) on: Wed Mar 13 00:59:37
  
  Vinod
  
  "It is as though trying to equate water running out of tap with the flow of the Ganges."
  Wow. never heard this phrase before. good one.
  
  "You don't seem to have an inkling of what I am trying to say"
  Don't you just hate it when that happens.
  Time to close this thread.
  
  
• From: Allmaster (@ 61.1.252.244) on: Mon Mar 18 02:41:20
  
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• From: SOMEONE (@ 202.95.84.164) on: Thu Mar 21 03:23:21
  
  I THINK IT'S OK TO HOLD HANDS IN PUBLIC.... BUT NOT FRENCH-KISSING N MAKING OUT.... I MEAN, WE SHUD ALWAZE HAVE A SENSE OF INTEGRITY N DECENCY!
  
  
• From: Balagan (@ 210-210-37-12.lan.sify.net) on: Thu Mar 21 11:05:35
  
  As long as they hang tight who cares what you do???
  whose job is it any way to watch others!!!
  
  
• From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 61.1.213.131) on: Fri Mar 29 07:49:32
  
  Only animals are oblivious of their surroundings. It is human to be aware of where we are, what we do & have a sense of propriety. Privacy is essential for free outflow of emotions.
  
  

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