Topic started by Amitabh (@ 204.115.121.242) on Tue Jun 26 17:22:24 .
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I posted this topic in Films too but really donot know where it belongs.

It is being demanded nowadays that GADAR should be banned because of some objectionable scenes in the movie. Some examples that I read are :
1. A Muslim girl has been shown reading Namaz wearing Sindoor.
2. The Muslim girl has been shown renouncing her religion to marry a Sikh
3. There has been too many Anti-Pak dialogues.

Has anybody seen this movie and comment on that.

I am specially bothered about the 3rd point where a Muslim League( India) leader mentioned to rediff.com that the Anti-Pak tone in the movie should have been toned down keeping in mind the Muslims of our country. Doesn't this clearly mean that Muslims like this person live in India but care more about Pakistan? Isn't this clearly Anti-nationalism?

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• From: Amitabh (@ proxy1.bur.adelphia.net) on: Tue Jul 24 10:37:51
  
  JanpathGuru,
  You need to read my postings more carefully.
  
  The 3 points you quoted are the points that have been raised to justify why the movie should be banned.
  
  I then saw the movie and I posted again to clarify that there is absolutely nothing like that in this movie.
  1. The Sindoor mentioned is actually blood and was put by the hero of the movie to protect the girl from Hindu rioters and neither of them accepted that as a marriage. Later in the movie, thay fell in love and they got married.
  
  2. There is not a single scene of forcing the Muslim girl to accept Hinduism.
  
  3. There are few scenes which is anti-Pakistan and against Muslim fundamentalism of Pakistan and which I have clarified in my previous posting why that is not objectionable.
  
  So either you take my word or go see the movie and tell me if you find anything different.
  
  
  
• From: JanmathaGuru (@ proxy2.cr) on: Tue Jul 24 15:19:39
  
  Amitabh;
  My concept was very clear that ALL RELIGIONS SHOULD BE RESPECTED EQUALLY and religions sentiments should not be commercialize blaming or opposing religions.
  Am well learned and versed most of all major religions and concluded myself that all flows from same source which ended in ISLAM.
  While accepting the some of Hindu ideologies go back to thousands of years, which clearly rooted into Abrahamic era which Brahmins comes. There are clear evidence of Noha's flood in Hindu scriptures, Bible and Quran.
  We should not try or accept blaming any religion or its followers just for silly reasons. We can have healthy discussions and dialogues.
  That was my opinion, am not prejudice or support a single religion or community.
  
  
• From: kavin (@ stu-elan980.sju.edu) on: Tue Jul 24 16:08:20
  
  testin!
  
  
• From: ADNAN NASIM KHAN PATHAN! (@ ac9b96cc.ipt.aol.com) on: Mon Sep 10 00:42:36
  
  I dont know much about anything, I mean I am not too egducated and qualified, but I know that one hindu guy can never come to Pakistan and take a Pakistani girl away from there, after fighting with 2000 muslims who were armed!!!WAAWWW
  The movies which are made in Hollywood are also crappy sometimes but they still make sense,I mean America always kicks the ACESS of Japan and Russia in its movies but they also show many Americans die as well,But here in India Sunny Doel just goes and conquers the whole Pakistan and gets his wife from there.Cool!I BET U A THOUSAND DOLLARZ IF PAKISTAN AND INDIA LETTERALLY GO ON WAR!!!!SUNNY DOEL WILL BE THE FIRST ONE TO LEAVE THE BATTLE FIELD!!Nothin against u guyz!And hey I have a question for Indian directors and producers
  
  Question :If one Sunny Doel can kick ACE for 100 Pakistanis,How many Sunny doels do u need to kill 100 Americans?
  
  Question : If you guys hate Pakistan because we are not ur religion and soil, why dont you guys hate Americans even they are not hindus they are christians and they are not ur soil either, So next time make a movie with sunny doel falling in love with an american girl! are u sure u guys can do that No WAY!! Coz u worship America just like bhagwan ram bhagwan krishna and bhagwan clinton!!HAHA,And also u guys are scared that the AMERICANS will set ur ACE on fire!! well i guess my question turned out to be a whole answere it self!!
  
  Bye! nothing against u guys!!
  
  
• From: ADNAN NASIM KHAN PATHAN! (@ ac9b96cc.ipt.aol.com) on: Mon Sep 10 00:44:55
  
  TELL UR FRIENDS ABOUT ME!!!
  
  
• From: Wise Man (@ ppp-185-29.bng.vsnl.net.in) on: Mon Sep 10 01:40:29
  
  ADNAN,
  
  I agree with you that in reality an Indian can never take a Pakistani woman unless he belongs to the same breed coz you guys stink.
  
  
• From: mitu (@ dialpool-210-214-204-244.maa.sify.net) on: Mon Sep 10 03:43:24
  
  i ve seen the movie and honestly feel that filmhad nothing that has made this film to be a huge hit. only due to publicity given to it by some maniacs made the day for the producers of the film.its like satanic verses, a average book was made best seller due all the protest and controversies
  adnan i fully agree on the point that the idea of a man who goes to foreign country and brings back his wife fighting a the whole army,is bit unrealistic.and if there is a man who is capable of doing such heroics. i would like him to get Dawood for india who is hiding in pakistan.
  but adnan we dont hate for u belong to another religion oranther country. we have more people of ur religion than u have. we hate u because u never abolish urvisious ways to destroy peace of this country.
  
  
  
• From: usha (@ inktomi2-lut.server.ntl.com) on: Mon Sep 10 04:33:53
  
  If it's shown in UK then the pak's will bomb the cinema .. like what they did when they showed Border
  
  
• From: Vince (@ ac853158.ipt.aol.com) on: Fri Sep 21 03:18:33
  
  USHA r u serious?? I wish there will be a prime minister who will have some courage to NUKE pakistan. I can't believe our indian govenment for not responding good enough to the KARGIL WAR. All they are intrested in money and prostitutes, even our pm Bajbai is a theif.
  
  
• From: Afghani (@ ool-435058c7.dyn.optonline.net) on: Thu Dec 27 21:53:10
  
  All pakistani's were indians before..... and paki muslims were hindu... Its same blood, but now we call each other by different names... We created two sport teams, and bunch of fans. Water is trying to beat the ice..... but they don't understand that they are the same damn thing, in different name.
  
  
• From: yukthanjali (@ brf-ppp1-80.arc.net.my) on: Mon Dec 31 03:04:34
  
  yep, they r the same damn stoopid thing.
  
  
• From: raju (@ webport-cl6-cache3.ilford.mdip.bt.net) on: Tue Jan 1 15:07:10
  
  just saw the last hour of gadarnext door. no story, bad editing, no coherent structure and usual 1 vs 1000 fight scenes.
  as for the muslim,hindu, christian ideologies....they are all as bad as each other.
  there were no bombs in cinemas for gadar or border
  and both were hits here in UK.
  
  
• From: Amy (@ ns.cfmmajestic.com) on: Wed Feb 13 11:01:25
  
  Well this story is so much like my life story.
  I think this movie was based on my life aside from all that killing and religious abuse.
  I think religion does not exist in humans anymore
  its more of who is on top of who. And no one has a right to make stupid comments about anyone in this world.
  
  
• From: SONNY GILL (@ dsl092-007-102.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) on: Sun Apr 7 04:09:57
  
  GADAR IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF SHIT-FILMS/IDEAS/PEOPLE/SOCIETIES THAT FESTER IN SOUTHEAST ASIA...THEY AND MOST OF YOU ARE IGNORANT! THE BIGGEST FLAW OF THE MOVIE, WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGIOUS ERRORS, IS THAT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEENA A SIKH AND A HINDU!!! AND EVEN A BIGGER PROBLEM IS THAT NO ONE REALIZES IT!!!
  
  
• From: fahim_mohabat@hotmail.com (@ ) on: Mon Apr 22 11:47:59
  
  hej du läget jag hoppas att du mår bra jag älskar dig hej då
  
  
• From: THODA PYO (@ ) on: Wed May 15 23:37:21
  
  the movie is an insult to sikhs, sunny deol has converted to hindusim and is part of the rss or in other word as become a hiindu facist!
  
  one day he keeps his hair and the other day he does'nt, the movie is obvious hindu government propoganda to cause problems between sikh and muslim who sould unite to crush hindustant!
  
  they only times hindus have ne courage is when the out # the other by 100:1 ratio!
  
  ex: gujrat! haha a ratio of sommin like 100:20 hundu:muslim burnt children for gods sake what kinda of stupidy was that
  ??
  
  
• From: Adnan Pathan (@ dip7-ppp-11.bu.edu) on: Sat Mar 15 15:10:26
  
  Hi guys
  
  I read all the comments about Gaddar. To be honest with you, I didn't get offended by the movie as a Muslim or as a Pakistani. I and my friends had a good time watching the movie, beucause we thought of it as a movie/fun. Try to make fun of it while wearing your own shoes. I am sure you will find it just a movie.
  
  One more thought. Be open minded. Let the other person finished before you take out your guns. When the other perosn is finished with his comment or thought, think to see if he is right. If he is, solve the problem. Don't reply back. You will a winner even if you loose that conversation.
  
  Peace.
  
  Adnan Pathan
  
  
• From: Muralidhar (@ ) on: Thu May 8 07:12:52
  
  Hi,
  
  Some of U guys have sick imagination. First U watch the movie, enjoy it and then later abuse the same. So then why watch It in the 1st place U Morons.
  
  
• From: JInn (@ 81-86-104-219.dsl.pipex.com) on: Sun Aug 29 17:33:05
  
  Film like this creates hatred between us all, instead of fighting each other we should fight against the producers of this films and sonny deol( who is clearly a racist and hates pakistanies). This film is a insult to muslims, hindus, sikth and to all who live in pakistan and india. i live in london and Ive never since such hatred between these three religion. People in india and pakistan mainly care about making a living and such hatred only exist in government parties.
  
  
• From: $IKH PRIDE (@ 11cust34.tnt1.loxton.au.da.uu.net) on: Wed Sep 1 01:30:53 EDT 2004
  
  WTF U LOT ON ABT. GARDAR IS A DISGRACE 2 ALL DA SIKHZ N PAKIZ OUT DER. N ITS A FCUKIN INSAULT 2 C SUNNY DEOL MARRYIN SUM PAKI CHIX. I GOT NUFFIN AGAINST PAKIZ INIT. BUT I FCUKIN HATE HINDUZ, SALLI ALL FCUKIN COWARDS. MAKE DA FCUKIN SIKHS BAK DER A*** 4 EM. SALLI HINDUZ MAKE ME SIK. HINDUZ CAN GET FCUKED, SALLI FCUKIN USELESS PIECEZ OF SHYT. DA MOVIE WOS FCUKED YEH. AITE ENUFF RESPECT 2 ALL MA SIKHZ.
  
  
  

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