Topic started by Raghavan (@ 202.140.137.242) on Sat Apr 12 12:49:49 .
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Outlook Picador Non Fiction Competition is conducted by the outlook magazine.Last year an essay by Saryu Ahuja under the Pseudonym S A Srivatsa was selected by the panel.The essay left me completely shocked.Being a tamilian myself,the prejudice and insensitivity in that essay would hurt any tamilian.

But what is more inexplicable is that this essay being selected for the top prize.If the author of this racist piece has a sick mind, then the panel which selected this essay for the top prize has persons with equally a sicker mind.

Here are the links

http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20020218&fname=Picador+%28F%29&sid=1

Even some Non Tamilians protest

http://www.outlookindia.com/rantsmag.asp?fodname=20020218&fname=Picador+%28F%29&sid=1

Here are a few questions I would like to ask.I
resisted my urge not to pay attention to this essay but due to my anger i just could not ignore.

1.Will a publication like the Hindu or frontline
publish an essay similar like this one attacking north indians ?

2.Or should we not protest this insensitive piece on tamilians just to be 'Indian'?

3.What is the ideal way to counter such notorious
writing if there is indeed one ?

4.The author says the tamils who came to mumbai grabbed the oppurtunities while the maharashtrians were involved in freedom struggle.What about the lakhs of Maharashtrians who have settled in thanjavur ? Has the dravidian movement ever attacked them ? Is there a equivalent of shiv sena in TN ?

C'mon. There is a limit to hypocrisy.

Responses:

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• From: mm (@ alecto.mt.pl) on: Tue Apr 6 23:58:03 EDT 2004
  
  See how Lord Rama's Mommy stuffed a dead horse's Pen1s in her vagina for an entire night and had sex:
  
  
  The sexual ritual of the asvamedha yajna quoted from the Vedas.
  
  ASWAMEDHA SACRIFICE:
  
  From the "satapatha brahmana" sanskrit text and translation:
  
  IN SANSKRIT:
  
  
  13.5.2.[1]
  
  eteuktva yadadhrigo? parisi??am bhavati tadaha vaso'dhivasa?
  hira?yamityasvayopast??anti tasminnenamadhi sañjñapayanti sañjñapte?u pasu?u
  patnya? pannejanairudayanti catasrasca jaya? kumari pañcami catvari ca
  satanyanucari?am
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[2]
  
  ni?th\ite?u pannejane?u mahi?imasvayopanipadayantyathainavadhivasena
  sampror?uvanti svargeloke pror?uvathamitye?a vai svargo loko yatra pasu?
  sañjñapayanti nirayatyasvasya sisnam mahi?yupasthe nidhatte v??a vaji retodha reto
  dadhatviti mithunasyaiva sarvatvaya
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[3]
  
  tayo? sayanayo? asva? yajamano'bhimethatyutsakthya ava guda? dhehiti ta? na
  kascana pratyabhimethati nedyajamanam pratiprati? kascidasaditi
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[4]
  
  athadhvaryu? kumarimabhimethati kumari haye-haye kumari yakasakau sakuntiketi
  ta? kumari pratyabhimethatyadhvaryo haye-haye'dhvaryo yako'sakau sakuntaka iti
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[5]
  
  atha brahma mahi?imabhimethati mahi?i haye-haye mahi?i mata ca te pita ca
  te'gram v?k?asya rohata iti tasyai sata? rajaputryo'nucaryo bhavanti ta brahma?am
  pratyabhimethanti brahmanhaye-haye brahmanmata ca te pita ca te'gre v?k?asya
  kri?ata iti
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[6]
  
  athodgata vavatamabhimethati vavate haye-haye vavata urdhvamenamucrapayeti
  t!syai sata? rajanya anucaryo bhavanti ta udgataram
  pratyabhimethantyudgatarhaye-haya udgatarudhvarmenamucrayataditi
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[7]
  atha hota pariv?ktamabhimethati pariv?kte haye-haye pariv?kte yadasya a?hubhedya
  iti tasyai sata? sutagrama?ya? duhitaro'nucaryo bhavanti ta hotaram
  pratyabhimethanti hotarhaye-haye hotaryaddevaso lalamagumiti
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[8]
  
  atha k?atta palagalimabhimethati palagali haye-haye palagali yaddhari?o yavamatti
  na pu??am pasu manyata iti tasyai sata? k?atrasa?grahit??a? duhitaro'nucaryo
  bhavanti ta? k?attaram pratyabhimethanti k?attarhaye-haye k?attaryaddhari?o
  yavamatti na pu??am bahu manyata iti
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[9]
  
  sarvaptirvae?a vaca? yadabhimethika? sarve kama asvamedhe sarvaya vaca
  sarvankamanapnavametyutthapayanti mahi?i? tatasta yathetam
  pratip!rayantyathetare surabhimatim?camantato'nvahurdadhikrav?oakari?amiti
  
  __________________________________________________
  
  ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
  
  The priests supervising the asvamedha: the officiant (adhvaryu), overseer (brahman), cantor (udgatri) and the invoker (hotri). The king's wives which
  participate in the queen-horse copulation ceremony of the asvamedha: the chief wife (mahishi), favourite wife, rejected wife and the fourth wife. The Satapatha
  Brahmana, quoted below, offers clear instructions on how the queen-horse copulation ritual of the asvamedha is to be conducted; the king's chief wife (the
  mahishi) is to copulate with the carcass of the horse while the priests and all the participants curse each other in degenerate language:
  
  "A cloth, an upper cloth, and gold is what they spread out for the horse, and on that they 'quiet' him. When the sacrificial animals have been 'quieted', the
  (king's) wives come up with water for washing the feet -- four wives, and a maiden as the fifth, and four hundred women attendants. When the water for
  washing the feet is ready, they make the chief queen (Mahishi) lie down next to the horse, and they cover the two of them up with the upper cloth as they say
  the verse, 'Let the two of us cover ourselves in the world of heaven', for the world of heaven is where they 'quiet' the sacrificial animal. Then they draw out the
  PEN1S of the horse and place it in the vagina of the chief queen, while she says, 'May the vigorous virile male, the layer of seed, lay the seed'; this she says for
  sexual intercourse. While they are lying there, the sacrificer insults the horse by saying, 'Lift up her thighs and put it in her rectum.' No one insults (the
  sacrificer) back, lest there should be someone to act as a rival against the sacrificer. The officiant (Adhvaryu) then insults the maiden: 'Hey, maiden, hey,
  maiden, the little female bird ...' and she insults him back: 'Hey, officiant, hey, officiant, that little bird....' And then the overseer (Brahman) insults the chief
  queen: 'Hey, chief queen, hey, chief queen, your mother and father climb to the top of a tree....' She has as her attendants a hundred daughters of kings; they
  insult the overseer in return: 'Hey, overseer, hey, overseer, your mother and your father play in the top of a tree....' Then the cantor (Udgatri) insults the king's
  favourite wife: 'Hey, favourite, hey, favourite wife, raise her up erect....' She has as her attendants a hundred royal women; they insult the cantor in return:
  'Hey, cantor, hey, cantor, raise him up erect....' Then the invoker (Hotri) insults the rejected wife: 'Hey, rejected wife, hey, rejected wife, when inside her tight
  crack....' She has as her attendants a hundred daughters of bards and village headmen; they insult the invoker in return: 'Hey, invoker, hey, invoker, when the
  gods see that miserable PEN1S....' Then the carver (Kshatri) insults the fourth wife: 'Hey, fourth wife, hey, fourth wife, when the deer eats the barley, (the
  farmer) does not hope to nourish the animal....' She has as her attendants a hundred daughters of carvers and charioteers; they insult the carver in return: 'Hey,
  carver, hey, carver, when the deer eats the barley, (the farmer) does not hope to nourish the animal....' These insulting speeches are for all kinds of attainment,
  for through the horse sacrifice all desires are achieved. Thinking, 'With all kinds of speech we will achieve all kinds of desires', they make the chief queen get
  up. Then the women walk back the way they came, and the others utter at the end a sweet-smelling verse, the verse that begins, 'I praise Dadhikravan.' For
  the life-span and the gods go out of those who speak impure speech in the sacrifice. Thus they purify their speech to keep the gods from going out of the
  sacrifice."
  
  -- Satapatha Brahmana 13:5:2:1-10. [O'Flaherty, Wendy D. Textual Sources for the Study of Hinduism. Pub.: University of Chicago Press. ISBN
  0-226-61847-1. pp.16-17].
  
  
• From: mm (@ alecto.mt.pl) on: Tue Apr 6 23:58:09 EDT 2004
  
  See how Lord Rama's Mommy stuffed a dead horse's Pen1s in her vagina for an entire night and had sex:
  
  
  The sexual ritual of the asvamedha yajna quoted from the Vedas.
  
  ASWAMEDHA SACRIFICE:
  
  From the "satapatha brahmana" sanskrit text and translation:
  
  IN SANSKRIT:
  
  
  13.5.2.[1]
  
  eteuktva yadadhrigo? parisi??am bhavati tadaha vaso'dhivasa?
  hira?yamityasvayopast??anti tasminnenamadhi sañjñapayanti sañjñapte?u pasu?u
  patnya? pannejanairudayanti catasrasca jaya? kumari pañcami catvari ca
  satanyanucari?am
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[2]
  
  ni?th\ite?u pannejane?u mahi?imasvayopanipadayantyathainavadhivasena
  sampror?uvanti svargeloke pror?uvathamitye?a vai svargo loko yatra pasu?
  sañjñapayanti nirayatyasvasya sisnam mahi?yupasthe nidhatte v??a vaji retodha reto
  dadhatviti mithunasyaiva sarvatvaya
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[3]
  
  tayo? sayanayo? asva? yajamano'bhimethatyutsakthya ava guda? dhehiti ta? na
  kascana pratyabhimethati nedyajamanam pratiprati? kascidasaditi
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[4]
  
  athadhvaryu? kumarimabhimethati kumari haye-haye kumari yakasakau sakuntiketi
  ta? kumari pratyabhimethatyadhvaryo haye-haye'dhvaryo yako'sakau sakuntaka iti
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[5]
  
  atha brahma mahi?imabhimethati mahi?i haye-haye mahi?i mata ca te pita ca
  te'gram v?k?asya rohata iti tasyai sata? rajaputryo'nucaryo bhavanti ta brahma?am
  pratyabhimethanti brahmanhaye-haye brahmanmata ca te pita ca te'gre v?k?asya
  kri?ata iti
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[6]
  
  athodgata vavatamabhimethati vavate haye-haye vavata urdhvamenamucrapayeti
  t!syai sata? rajanya anucaryo bhavanti ta udgataram
  pratyabhimethantyudgatarhaye-haya udgatarudhvarmenamucrayataditi
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[7]
  atha hota pariv?ktamabhimethati pariv?kte haye-haye pariv?kte yadasya a?hubhedya
  iti tasyai sata? sutagrama?ya? duhitaro'nucaryo bhavanti ta hotaram
  pratyabhimethanti hotarhaye-haye hotaryaddevaso lalamagumiti
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[8]
  
  atha k?atta palagalimabhimethati palagali haye-haye palagali yaddhari?o yavamatti
  na pu??am pasu manyata iti tasyai sata? k?atrasa?grahit??a? duhitaro'nucaryo
  bhavanti ta? k?attaram pratyabhimethanti k?attarhaye-haye k?attaryaddhari?o
  yavamatti na pu??am bahu manyata iti
  
  
  
  13.5.2.[9]
  
  sarvaptirvae?a vaca? yadabhimethika? sarve kama asvamedhe sarvaya vaca
  sarvankamanapnavametyutthapayanti mahi?i? tatasta yathetam
  pratip!rayantyathetare surabhimatim?camantato'nvahurdadhikrav?oakari?amiti
  
  __________________________________________________
  
  ENGLISH TRANSLATION:
  
  The priests supervising the asvamedha: the officiant (adhvaryu), overseer (brahman), cantor (udgatri) and the invoker (hotri). The king's wives which
  participate in the queen-horse copulation ceremony of the asvamedha: the chief wife (mahishi), favourite wife, rejected wife and the fourth wife. The Satapatha
  Brahmana, quoted below, offers clear instructions on how the queen-horse copulation ritual of the asvamedha is to be conducted; the king's chief wife (the
  mahishi) is to copulate with the carcass of the horse while the priests and all the participants curse each other in degenerate language:
  
  "A cloth, an upper cloth, and gold is what they spread out for the horse, and on that they 'quiet' him. When the sacrificial animals have been 'quieted', the
  (king's) wives come up with water for washing the feet -- four wives, and a maiden as the fifth, and four hundred women attendants. When the water for
  washing the feet is ready, they make the chief queen (Mahishi) lie down next to the horse, and they cover the two of them up with the upper cloth as they say
  the verse, 'Let the two of us cover ourselves in the world of heaven', for the world of heaven is where they 'quiet' the sacrificial animal. Then they draw out the
  PEN1S of the horse and place it in the vagina of the chief queen, while she says, 'May the vigorous virile male, the layer of seed, lay the seed'; this she says for
  sexual intercourse. While they are lying there, the sacrificer insults the horse by saying, 'Lift up her thighs and put it in her rectum.' No one insults (the
  sacrificer) back, lest there should be someone to act as a rival against the sacrificer. The officiant (Adhvaryu) then insults the maiden: 'Hey, maiden, hey,
  maiden, the little female bird ...' and she insults him back: 'Hey, officiant, hey, officiant, that little bird....' And then the overseer (Brahman) insults the chief
  queen: 'Hey, chief queen, hey, chief queen, your mother and father climb to the top of a tree....' She has as her attendants a hundred daughters of kings; they
  insult the overseer in return: 'Hey, overseer, hey, overseer, your mother and your father play in the top of a tree....' Then the cantor (Udgatri) insults the king's
  favourite wife: 'Hey, favourite, hey, favourite wife, raise her up erect....' She has as her attendants a hundred royal women; they insult the cantor in return:
  'Hey, cantor, hey, cantor, raise him up erect....' Then the invoker (Hotri) insults the rejected wife: 'Hey, rejected wife, hey, rejected wife, when inside her tight
  crack....' She has as her attendants a hundred daughters of bards and village headmen; they insult the invoker in return: 'Hey, invoker, hey, invoker, when the
  gods see that miserable PEN1S....' Then the carver (Kshatri) insults the fourth wife: 'Hey, fourth wife, hey, fourth wife, when the deer eats the barley, (the
  farmer) does not hope to nourish the animal....' She has as her attendants a hundred daughters of carvers and charioteers; they insult the carver in return: 'Hey,
  carver, hey, carver, when the deer eats the barley, (the farmer) does not hope to nourish the animal....' These insulting speeches are for all kinds of attainment,
  for through the horse sacrifice all desires are achieved. Thinking, 'With all kinds of speech we will achieve all kinds of desires', they make the chief queen get
  up. Then the women walk back the way they came, and the others utter at the end a sweet-smelling verse, the verse that begins, 'I praise Dadhikravan.' For
  the life-span and the gods go out of those who speak impure speech in the sacrifice. Thus they purify their speech to keep the gods from going out of the
  sacrifice."
  
  -- Satapatha Brahmana 13:5:2:1-10. [O'Flaherty, Wendy D. Textual Sources for the Study of Hinduism. Pub.: University of Chicago Press. ISBN
  0-226-61847-1. pp.16-17].
  
  
• From: Maran S (@ alecto.mt.pl) on: Sun Apr 11 00:23:57 EDT 2004
  
  LAKSHMANA, SEETHA & KAUSALYA GANG RAPE LORD RAMA OF AYODHYA
  ===========================================================================================================
  
  AS TOLD IN THE RAMAYANA IN RAMA'S OWN WORDS!
  
  
  I am lord Shri Rama of Ayodhya...... My wife is Seetha..
  Seetha has been my wife for many years and she knows nearly every
  fantasy I have ever had. Tonight she had went all out she was wearing a
  tight leather Dominatrix outfit. Needless to say my cock stood at attention
  quickly.
  
  "Take your clothes off now boy." she said
  
  Playing along I quickly stripped, she walked over to me and let her fingers
  rub down my chest, teasing my nipples and moving slowly down to my cock.
  She grabbed me firmly in her hand and pulled me towards her.
  
  "Tonight you will do everything I tell you, Lord Rama. If you don't I will not let you
  cum and I will keep your cock hard all night" she promised
  
  Not looking forward to a major case of blue b@lls I quickly agreed. She
  handed me a blindfold and told me to put it on, as soon as I did this I felt
  her slide a loop over the head of my cock. She slowly slid it down my shaft
  to the base where she tightened it just shy of being painful, next she gave
  me a tug on it and I knew then it was a leash.
  
  "Come with me Lord Shri Ram, the bed is our next stop" she whispered in my ear.
  
  She led me down the hall to our room, as soon as we were in I heard her
  turn off the lights. She led me over towards the bed and had me kneel down.
  Next she tied a silk cloth around my left wrist, then another around my
  right wrist.
  
  "Lean forwards" she instructed
  
  When I leaned forward I found myself tied down to her blanket chest, next
  she tied my ankles and spread my legs.
  
  "I love the way Shri Rama looks like that don't you?" she asks
  
  "Yeah, Shri Rama's b@lls hang nicely! Jai Shri Ram!" a woman's voice replied. It was my mother Kausalya!
  
  "Pull on the leash again Seetha, I want to see Lord Shri Rama's cock again" A man told her.
  It was my brother Lakshmana.
  
  "Seetha what's going on here??" I asked
  
  "Shutup Lord Rama" She told me and spanked my A$$ with her hand. "Tonight you
  are going to suck cock and get your A$$ fu*cked. Your mother Kausalya is going
  to watch and Lakshmana here is going to use his 9 inch cock on you"
  
  The lights were turned on, and a gag was placed in my mouth before I could
  respond. Seetha pulled on the leash till my cock was pointing straight down.
  She rubbed her hands across my A$$, gently teasing my tight hole until I
  began pushing back to her from the pleasure. Seetha knew form our many little
  fantasy sessions that I loved having my A$$ played with and now she was
  taking it all the way to the top level. I was nervous as hell about being
  fu*cked and I didn't want to suck a cock, but in this position I couldn't do
  anything. To be honest I was kinda looking forward to the experience.
  
  "MMM his cock is leaking precum," my mother Kausalya said "What are you going to do
  about that Lord Rama, my son?"
  
  Then I felt my brother Lakshmana's hand on my cock. He gently gripped the shaft and slowly
  rubbed the tip of one finger across my cock smearing the precum across it.
  I could feel his hand gently begin stroking me. I moaned in pleasure at the
  feeling getting even harder with the thought of my wife and my mother kausalya
  watching me being used by a man. Then I felt his breath on my A$$ as he
  moved his mouth to my hole. His tongue begin sliding back and forth across
  it and then ever so softly he began to stick his tongue into it. My God he
  was rimming me and I loved it, my breath got shorter and I began moaning
  harder.
  
  "Like that Lord Rama??" Seetha asked me as she removed the gag off my mouth
  
  "Ohh baby that feels so good" I gasped
  
  Lakshmana laughed as he pulled back and replaced his mouth with his hand, His
  fingers gently probing my A$$. He easily slid a finger deep into me. I
  moaned loudly as the intense pleasure of it went through me. I wasn't the
  only one moaning Kausalya was as well and it sounded like Seetha was playing
  with herself as well. The feelings were going all through me as Lakshmana
  fingered me with one hand and jacked me off with the other, oh siva, my bro
  was talented. His finger bent slightly and began rubbing inside of me
  twisting and touching all different places pleasure one way was quickly repl
  aced as he moved around spreading my A$$hole so he could slid another finger
  in.
  
  "That's enough Lakshmana, I think its time for Lord Shri Rama to repay you for the
  pleasure. Come around here and let him service your beautiful cock. Open
  your mouth Lord Rama." Seetha demanded
  
  I slowly opened my mouth, licking my lips to help cover my nervousness.
  Lakshmana moved around in front of me and began rubbing his cock head on my
  cheeks. He was beginning to leak precum as well and it left a wet trail
  wherever it moved on my skin. Then he slowly rubbed his cock around my
  lips, The salty taste of his precum on my tongue made me gasp then he began
  shoving it in me slowly at first. He grabbed the back of my head and put
  his D1CK all the way in chocking me with it causing me to swallow
  instinctively. As he pulled back I ran my tongue along his shaft. He
  stopped with just his head in my mouth and I began sucking on him like he
  was a lollipop, my tongue swirling around his head, teasing his piss slit
  and rubbing gently on the rim.
  
  "Ohhhh yeah that's hot....my pussy is so wet! JAI SHRI RAM! " Kausalya gasped.
  
  Lakshmana began moaning as he thrust back into my mouth, in and out. He is
  fu*cking my mouth I thought as his b@lls slapped on my chin. I began sucking
  harder on him, running my tongue all over him eager to please him, knowing
  that was the only way I was going to cum tonight. I could feel his cock
  beginning to swell as his orgasm built up. Then Seetha began jerking gently
  on the cock leash sending pain and pleasure through me. Her moans were
  getting loudly as her orgasm was building as well, I could her the hum of
  her vibrator as she slid it in and out of her pussy.
  
  "Lakshmana, I think its time for Lord Rama to get fu*cked. He needs your cock in him,
  isn't that right Lord Rama?? " Seetha asked me
  
  "Ohhh yesssssss!! JAI SHRI RAM!" Kausalya gasped as her orgasm went through her.
  
  All I could do was moan in agreement, at that moment there was nothing more
  in the world I wanted then to have his cock b@lls deep in my A$$. Lakshmana
  pulled out of my mouth and moved back around behind me. He rubbed the head
  of his cock across my A$$hole before slowly pushing into me. His hands
  gripped my hips just like I do when I fu*ck Seetha doggy style. With one
  thrust he entered into me and I could feel his b@lls against mine. The ridge
  of his head sent chills down my spine as it rubbed in me, filling me up and
  giving me all kinds of pleasure. The shaft rubbing back and forth was
  manipulating my A$$hole in the most amazing ways. I couldn't help but to
  moan and gasp in pleasure. I was Lord Rama's slave and I loved it.
  
  "SH1T his A$$ is so hot, he was very willing for this Seetha" He moaned. "I
  think your right he will make a good fu*ck toy for the party next Friday"
  
  "mmmmmmm ohhh yeah" was the only thing I could get out.
  
  My mind was spinning, I was going to be a fu*ck toy at a party and my wife
  had set it up. I could hardly concentrate as he pounded my A$$. His hands
  grasping my hips and his cock's swelling was causing my cock to twitch.
  fu*ck, I was going to cum like this.......Then his cock exploded, I could
  feel the pulse of his D1CK as his cum shot into me filling me up. It was
  hot, wet and too much for me to handle as my own cock began shooting cum
  onto the blanket chest I was bent over I came and I came A huge load spilt
  out of me onto the chest and onto my thighs. someone scooped some of it up
  with their fingers and put them in my mouth, from the feel of them they were
  Seetha's. Damn I loved the taste of my own cum and she knew it, I thought as
  I slurped it greedily off her fingers..
  
  "Ohhhh SH1TTTTTTT!!!!! JAI SHRI RAM!!" Lakshmana yelled in pleasure
  
  "YEAH BABY" my mother Kausalya yelled . "Suck Shri rama's cock"
  
  "Yes they will but not as much as I am, now Lord Rama is going to have to do
  whatever I say or his cock is going to be cut off" Seetha replied
  
  "What are you talking about??" I gasped
  
  "Shut up bitch" Seetha said as she slapped me
  
  Now what's going to happen to me I thought only time would tell............
  
  Shree Rama Rama Rama Raghu Nandana pee soothu Rama Rama
  1.Shree Rama Rama Rama Raghu Nandana pee soothu Rama Rama
  2.Shree Rama Rama Rama big dicked homo fucker Bharathaagraja Rama Ram
  3.Shree Rama Rama Rama bastard Ranadheera Rama Ram
  4.Shree Rama Rama Rama madharchuth Sharanam Bhava Rama Ram
  
  
  ===========================================================================================================
  
  Author: Maran Subramaniam (Aruvaal)
  Please visit my website : http://pesona.mmu.edu.my/~maran
  
  If you liked this Vedic report, please send me a donation. We need your support!
  Jai Shri Ram!
  
  

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