Topic started by Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on Mon Sep 9 05:44:55 .
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Does this ill treatment still exists in India?,Should not the government ban Dowry & impose a legislation based upon this?,It is a very sad thing to happen to anybody, why do these ppl do these, don't they have hearts, what the hell are the going to do with money, nothing is real in life, but 90% of the ppl are really ill hearted, who will do anything to get their so called dowry, I think that the women's family shouldnever give dowry & the shameless men's family, esp the man, should never expect money from the girl's side, this is like human trade, how pathetic?

what kind of man would like to sit on his backside & eat from other ppl's money ?, when are these ppl going to change?

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• From: Saradha (@ 207.239.176.82) on: Tue Sep 24 15:13:58
  
  """tell me about it, I have a five major projects to finish by end of october & I do not know where to start,""""
  
  I wish I could help U, Raghu. I am afraid that I can't as I am not a software gal.
  
  Sorry, Raghu!
  
  
• From: fridge (@ netcache6.is.co.za) on: Wed Sep 25 06:58:34
  
  E
  
  ""so, your're not married? but you already have your expectation set on what your wife/husband should do?( are you a guy or a girl)wow!!! ure going to be dissappointed no matter what.take my word""
  I am a girl annd you are dashing all my hopes of a happy life, Sob sob.
  
  ""i have not depended on anyone since i was 16 and got a job. i dont feel comfortable asking other people for money. i dont sit in my butt all day.""
  Same here, i also work and not sit on my ** bottom all day long, that is why I want to relax and enjoy my life instead of going to work every single day.
  
  "" if your wife can find time for all this junk, after doing the cooking, cleaning(dishes, house), washing, drying, taking care of the kids, then i can surely can use some advice from a woman like that. i barely find time for this kind of things after working and doing half the housework.""
  
  Sure this is difficult, But instead of saving washing and ironing for weekends I used to do this in the week, after work, I had most of the weekends to myself. Coffie shops and doing something you enjoy is not junk, we are entitled to this
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Wed Sep 25 07:21:23
  
  fridge;
  
  dhool, keep it up :-)
  
  
• From: pradheep (@ 207.177.73.98) on: Wed Sep 25 15:58:58
  
  Dowry is an individual problem that has rooted in the society. How can dowry be eradicated when parents want costly son-in-laws. They compete with getting a son-in-law by paying for it. They think money is more important than anything else. they compromise other aspcts for money.
  
  Next reason for dowry is to show off one-s wealth. Many parents wants to boast about their wealth by paying a heavy dowry and also baost of their rich in laws.
  
  Basically dowry is the expression of greed and sow off. This is an indivual problem and the whole soceity suffers. Unless every individual changes there can be a solution. Social evils like widow remarriage, sati, untouchability have been eradicted but dowry has intensified in its dimension, why?. Because this evil feeds greed and ego of individuals. Our way of life has boosted greed and ego and therfore this social evil continues.
  Dowry obviosuly is seen in India and in other parts indirectly. Most Marriages (not all) in most of the societies are for economical reasons. Men alone cannot be blamed for dowry. Men want wealthy women (as dowry) or women with better paying jobs. Same with women too. they want wealthy men ,or men with dignified and well paid jobs.
  
  Dowry is the price paid in India for maintaining social status. Dowry is driven both by the parents to keep social status and for the girl to choose a guy with more wealth. On the guy side, Dowry is driven by the again the parents motive to maintian social status and by the guy to get a girl with more wealth.
  
  Dowry is fueled not by men alone but equally by women also.
  
  what is the solution. Unless we live a simple life meeting basic needs and be content with ourselves, these problems would not cease to exist.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Thu Sep 26 05:24:20
  
  Pradheep;
  
  welcome to the thread :)
  
  >>. Unless we live a simple life meeting basic needs and be content with ourselves, these problems would not cease to exist. <<
  
  very good points!!
  
  
• From: Ayutkaiti (@ ce1.time.net.my) on: Tue Nov 5 08:54:02
  
  "“Does this (dowry-ness) ill treatment still exists in India?,"
  The world’s most beautiful things (for example. sari-glad Indian ladies, The Taj Mahel, Mahatma Gandhi) are there in India so as the world’s most irritating, ugly things. (Drainage politics, dowry- ness, bribery). As long as the beautiful things remain, don’t worry, the demons will be tailing all over.
  
  “Should not the government ban Dowry & impose a legislation based upon this?”
  Ban Dowry? If it’s possible then The Great Aurang Zeb, the Moguls, The Great British, or Mahathma would have succeeded it. Impose a legislation? India is the birthplace of most common Law of British (which most countries are still ruling in) Believe it!!??
  
  “It is a very sad thing to happen to anybody, why do these ppl do these, don't they have hearts,”
  Yes they do have hearts but the hearts are only being used for biological purposes minus the emotions and physiological means. That’s why these people don’t have the guilty feelings.
  
  “What the hell are they going to do with money?’
  A lot. Bed minus sleep. House minus loved ones, Family minus love, frens minus friendship, rose minus fragrance…………..
  
  ‘I think that the women's family should never give dowry’
  They don’t purposely offer. I can’t imagine how a dad of 6 girls is going to married off his kids with his little income. A beloved father would never ever kill his kids or push them into prostitution. What else can he do? Lodge a FIR? Protest, strikes hunger? Or commits suicide?
  
  “the shameless men's family, esp the man, should never expect money from the girl's side, this is like human trade, how pathetic?”
  In case the same thing happens to me (touchwood*3), I would go to an extent of giving him( and his family, of course) a nice “shoe adi”
  
  “what kind of man would like to sit on his backside & eat from other ppl's money ?,”
  Let them eat whatever they want. They wouldn’t be able to get Red wine back ion Hell later.
  
  “when are these ppl going to change”
  Very possible, maybe on 32nd of February year 20000000000009912!!!
  
  
  Ragoo, dowry- ness may include both men and women but somehow the women get the most ugly piece. It’s very heartwarming to see a man (u r a man right?) “fighting and shouting ” for this unscrupulous act of sin. Go ahead, fren.
  
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Nov 5 09:20:30
  
  Ayutkaiti;
  
  
  >>It’s very heartwarming to see a man (u r a man right?) “fighting and shouting ” <<
  
  enna lolla, peyarai partha man mathiri thane irkuthu, amma nan oru 25 yr old male, pothuma :))
  
  just kiding, my friend, no offence meant :)
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Tue Nov 5 09:22:06
  
  Ayutkaiti;
  
  http://www.forumhub.com/expr/20517.06.26.22.html
  
  pls post your comments here :)
  
  
• From: Sweetie (@ webcacheh07a.cache.pol.co.uk) on: Tue Nov 5 13:55:42
  
  Not until recently many girls had to stay at home and help around with the housework. In this way they couldn't finish what little education they had and so had no skills or a job. The concept of dowry was that when the girl got married that the bride's parents gave a gift of money to the couple to start them off in life and to make up for the fact that bride could give no source of income to the household.This is still a problem in many parts of the world.
  However many ppl are now abusing dowry. There are many succsessful women out there with a job but the groom's parents still want dowry! Most often it's the groom's parents who keep a large amount or all of the money.
  This is sad since the custom of dowry itself is not a bad thing but ppl are greedy for money. It's uneccessary for a bride's parents to give dowry if she has a job but that just show's the society we live in.
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Wed Nov 6 05:19:44
  
  sweetie :
  
  >>However many ppl are now abusing dowry<,. yes, exactly right, in fact parents give what ever they can to the boy / boy's family, so that the daughter does not have any financial difficulties, but it is severly misused , very sad indeed :((
  
  
• From: Ayutkaiti (@ ce7.time.net.my) on: Fri Nov 8 09:39:12
  
  Raghu,
  "enna lolla, peyarai partha man mathiri thane irkuthu, amma nan oru 25 yr old male, pothuma :))"
  
  Sure, ur name sounds manly, but who knows u r really a man!!! sile pengaluku kude boys names irukku, teriyuma???
  
  Anywayz, 10x 4 the sweet info on ur age....only 25, already married ya? :))
  
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226) on: Fri Nov 8 10:43:59
  
  Ayutkaiti;
  
  yeh, i was married when I was 22, sighs, love at first sight, well I thought, but now, sighs :))
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ ) on: Tue Jun 17 07:53:15
  
  We can have some constructive arguments, as we have some new hubbers like Rosha, Tamil Nattan, ..etc
  
  
• From: muniandy (@ 194.82.157.100) on: Tue Jun 17 09:43:01 EDT 2003
  
  This means that the current government doesn't practice "equal oppurtunuity"
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.134.69.162) on: Tue Jun 17 09:51:39 EDT 2003
  
  Hi Muniandy,
  
  Yes, that's true!, but I heard in India that
  there are Government Legislations and acts tp prevent such things, but it never works does it?
  
  
• From: brenda mccallum (@ 202.188.223.11) on: Mon Jun 30 22:39:43 EDT 2003
  
  i think it is ok to follow malaysian style of not giving dowry but as honest reward of happiness to bride and bridegroom.most of the indian folks in malaysia purchases a set of beddings like bed,matress,closets/wardrobe and dressing table. i found out this from my cousin sister from malaysia and she too has no fuss over this kind of custom.what do you think?
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.134.69.162) on: Tue Jul 1 05:46:43 EDT 2003
  
  Brenda,
  
  Precisely, u can give gifts money/items as good gesture, but not like trading animals!
  
  

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