Will reservation bring another version of an ugly caste system
Topic started by Jose P Punnen (@ sl-gil-gd118-23.novlab.unb.ca) on Thu Jul 6 19:14:02 .
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Will the hatred between people with and without reservation(I think this exists don't know others viewpoint) give birth to a socail war.
Responses:
- From: gd (@ dll2a010-0231.splitrock.net)
on: Thu Jul 6 20:45:16 EDT 2000
Indian psyche do need to under go a "real" social war without any interference of outsiders like mughals and british.
- From: Vijay Tharma (@ a.varitykelsey.com)
on: Fri Jul 7 09:11:30 EDT 2000
Binu becomes Jose P Punnen ??? ;-)
Cant say much for gd's questions to your questions, thus runs and starts up another upper class propagandizing thread!! God work keep it up.
- From: kalkan (@ 203.197.193.138)
on: Sat Jul 15 13:04:05 EDT 2000
This reservation system should be abolished. This is benefited only by the persons who is having good political support. The needy person without any political connection even if he is eligible for the position/job he is not getting & is utilised by the person with source.
- From: Sugrutha (@ 1cust78.tnt5.new-brunswick3.nj.da.uu.net)
on: Sun Jul 16 13:14:29 EDT 2000
Kalkan,
You say that the implementation is faulty. Agreed. Which means we have to fight for the system to be implemented correctly, not to throw the system away.
- From: critic (@ ss02.ny.us.ibm.com)
on: Wed Jul 19 12:52:37 EDT 2000
what??? no response from kalkan???
- From: IML (@ 61.1.211.133)
on: Wed Aug 16 05:49:37 EDT 2000
Nowadays there is no diversities among the student or the educated people.The government remembers us about our caste at all times.The caste system reservation is unnecessary.It greatly affects the students.All work hard and all are taught same way and all get marks as per their capacity.But a BC can easily get a seat or job which becomes a dream for FC.Is it justice?
- From: bala (@ 202.9.176.36)
on: Fri Aug 18 09:35:17 EDT 2000
hello IML,
for enligtenment on the subject of reservation there are a lot of threads in tamilhistory section. people of your kind can get answers for your whys and why us ?es there
- From: BR (@ 134.216.26.8)
on: Thu Aug 24 16:33:55 EDT 2000
hi bala and to all my forumhub mates, are yu a person from this generation, are yu economically very low then surely the government has every responsibility to provide yu with assistance and guidance in yur education and not reserve a seat for yu in an medical college and spoil some one else.
Ya, I surely agree that there are persons who really need to have upliftment in life in all aspects, but by giving reservations their economic outfit can be raised not their knowledge level or intellectual facet of life.
And this in the long run will produce disastrous result to the nation as a whole.
Ambedkar when he instituted this reservation would have surely balanced the negatives and the positive's of such motive but in the current scenario, It would really end up in an negative scale.
Rather than giving reservation, the best thing a govt can do is to provide all the infrastructure and necessities for people below the poverty line rather than just mass reservation system.
Think and plan for the future and never cribb for some thing which happened in past which history tells us.
- From: IML (@ 61.1.211.212)
on: Fri Aug 25 08:36:33 EDT 2000
Hi All!
It is from IML.bala I could not really understand what you really mean by those "threads in tamil history".And I agree with you BR.It is good if govt. supported the students with scholorship than by reservations.Hope the education minister visits this site and after seeing all these suggestions, he would consider some of them,Just a wish.
- From: Surya (@ cache-ntc-aa07.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat Mar 20 21:19:13
I think that the reservation system is just going to be another form of discrimination.
- From: ZAHIR KHAN (@ 75-210-187-203.cable-client.iqara.net)
on: Wed Jul 14 01:21:19
I SURELY BELIVE THAT GIVING RESERVATION WILLNOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT INCREASE THE GAP BETWEEN A GOOD HARDWORKING PERSON( AS THIS IS APPLICABLE IN PROMOTION )AND SO SO PERSON. DO HAVE A THOUGHT ON RESERVATION IN PROMOTION.
- From: DR SUDHIR (@ )
on: Thu Aug 5 16:03:58
can any one tell me one valid reason,why should a hard working ,talented person should stay and serve this country.when he knows that he is going to be and is being mentally raped by this caste based reservation system.
what is the need for this caste based reservation?
and if u think that by saying that it will uplift poor and bring social equallity .then u r definetly a fool.this system is not helping any way to poor who need such a support.if at all u want to bring social equallity then help all poor people irrespective of caste , that to in terms of infrastructure ,monetery help and not by giving them free seats even for 55 %.
NO WAY WILL THIS SYSTEM REDUCE THE CASTE BASED RIFT BETWEEN US IT WILL DEFINETELLY WIDEN IT.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU GIVE A SEAT OR PROMOTION TO SUCH A UNDESERVING PERSON,DEFINETELLY A HARDWORKING TALENTED PERSON IS DEMORALISED.AND THIS WILL INCREASE THE HATERED.
BUT U PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK FOR THIS CASTE BASED SYSTEM,BECAUSE U R NOT HARD-WORKING,U CAN'T COMPETE WITH US.THAT'S WHY U ALWAYS CRY AND BEG FOR RESERVATION.
MY OFFER TO U:-
WHY ARE U ASKING FOR RESERVATION.YOU VOTE ME IN ELECTION AND GET ME TO THE PARLIAMENT.I WILL PROPOSE THAT "WHENEVER SOME ONE IN YOUR CASTE IS BORN ,THE MUNICIPALTY SHOULD GIVE U PEOPLE BIRTH CIRTIFICATE AS WELL AS MBBS/MD/MCH ANYTHING UR PARENTS WANT.U ARE REALLY VERY POOR U SHOULD NOT TAKE ANY TENSION TO STUDY EVEN TILL SSC."
WILL THIS SATISFY YO PEOPLE ?
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Thu Aug 5 17:47:04 EDT 2004
**can any one tell me one valid reason,why should a hard working ,talented person should stay and serve this country.**
Who said that you have to stay here????
Just get the f'k out of here so that we can have people those who care for each other unlike selfish bastds like you.
Just f'k off, doctor Sudir!
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Thu Aug 5 17:47:20 EDT 2004
*when he knows that he is going to be and is being mentally raped by this caste based reservation system.*
Go on get intellectually molested by white people in a foreign country. Do all the formalities one more time dont believe any o fthe siht you have earned so far. It will take another decade for you to go through the whole filthy practice. Moreover, they will look at your like never-can-trust piece of siht with weird filthy accent and all.
Tell me what talents you have shown so farby occupying 95% of the positions everywhere for the half century after independence?
How many Nobel Prizes you have won so far or how many new drugs you have got FDA approved or how mnay patents have filed in international patents which helped India to become a developed country?
We lose a bunch of rats if you fukc off, that is all.
Dont act like a God, we already have millions of them. Do you get me, my dear?
- From: suresh (@ 61.95.227.148)
on: Fri Aug 6 08:17:52 EDT 2004
:-)
dr.sudhir, (M.B.B.S..? )
why you get pissed of when a poor is being fed ? in fact, even if your food is served to a poor, you should be proud that your LIFE has got some meaning. all are human beings after all.
and when your food being served to the poor, please remember his hunger is quenched only for that moment. you are not giving him fortune but only just a food for that particular time.
and that is what exactly this reservation is doing.
sariyaaththaan solliyirukkaar pattukkOttai :
vasathi padaichavan tharamaattaan
vayiRu pasichavan vidamaattaan.
:-)
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Fri Aug 6 19:16:54 EDT 2004
Suresh!
Come on, Suresh! Dont insiult the doctor's by misquoting his educational qualifications. He has earned an MD and Ph.D. from Harvard Medical school. That is why he has the filthy attitude. He should be called Dr x Dr or (Dr.)squared.
But, you know, he is (will be) sending his kids to the Corporation school and not to a convent because he knows that is where he can provide he same education backward class people generally getting. He is such a broad-minded Doctor2 ;=)
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Fri Aug 6 19:51:50 EDT 2004
Come on, Suresh! Dont insult the doctor by misquoting his educational qualifications, please. In fact he has earned an MD and a Ph.D. from Harvard Medical school!!!
That is why he has the filthy attitude. ;-(((
Actually, he should be called Dr x Dr or (Dr.)squared. ;-)
But, you know, he came back to India to provide the same education backward people getting. He is such a patriot with a filthy attitude!
Moreover, he is (will be) sending his kids to the Corporation school and not to a convent! You believe that?! He knows that, that is where he can provide he same education backward class people generally getting. Now you know why he gets pissed off.
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