Topic started by Mithra (@ 136.181.195.25) on Fri Jun 29 14:25:10 .
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Hi Friends,
What really "Ego" means? It sounds more of bad character of a person.
"Ego - The self, especially as distinct from the world and other selves.
Appropriate pride in oneself; self-esteem.
Your consciousness of your own identity".

Is that, to have our own identity is bad?
I think always bending down to others is also not good.
Can anyone clear this off for me.

Thanks,
Mithra

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• From: Mithra (@ 136.181.195.25) on: Thu Jul 5 10:15:40
  
  Thanks Mr.Raja for helping me out to figure what 'ego' is.
  I truly agree the following lines.
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  "And remember, there is no need to drop the ego.
  
  You cannot drop it.
  
  If you try to drop it, you will attain to a certain subtle ego again which says, "I have become humble."
  Don't try to be humble. That's again ego in hiding - but it's not dead.
  
  
  And a really humble man is neither humble nor egoistic.
  
  He is simply simple.
  
  He's not even aware that he is humble.
  
  If you are aware that you are humble, the ego is there."
  
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  But Raja do you think that the real humble man can survive in the society? Can he lead the social life?
  If we are not prematurely dropping the ego and just watching it to drop by itself like a dead leaf then what kind of life that would be?
  One thing I can say this is very hard but not impossible.
  
  Thanks Mr Mutziputz.
  You categorize ego as developed and undeveloped. I can accept that too. By the way I dont understand what "Kia ora" means.
  
  Thanks,
  Mithra.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Mithra (@ 136.181.195.25) on: Thu Jul 5 16:59:04
  
  Vanakkam Mutziputz,
  Now I understand what "Kia ora" means, hello and/or goodbye, right?. The way of saluting in "Maori".
  Good to know that.
  Anyway, hope you believe "developed ego" is must.
  
  Cheers,
  Mithra
  
  
• From: Mutziputz (@ netcache1-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz) on: Sun Jul 8 02:11:52
  
  Kia ora, Mithra,
  Definitely!
  Developing/learning to control one's Ego is an absolute must if we are to develop at all as human beings. Our human evolutionary path itself also depends upon this on-going, conscious development.
  Another aspect of the human to consider is the conscience. Does, do you think, a person with a more developed Ego have a more active conscience, and vice versa, or is this simply a matter of coincidence? Is conscience a result of religious/spiritual belief, or is it a product of the demands and expectations of our society? And if the latter, how does conscience work in cultures that have very different expectations of the individuals in them?
  I'd be interested on anyone's thoughts on this.
  
  
• From: venkat (@ 202.9.180.57) on: Sun Jul 8 11:37:12
  
  dear mitra
  where ever u attach i , my , mine there comes ego.
  when u say I have done this then the ego is within
  u. and the problem comes when comments about that work u have done.
  instead if u take the responsibility of the work
  there won't be any problem.
  so ego must be in line with the responsibility
  (porupu earkum thiran).
  but in practical life is it viable?
  sonme one cross u at a higher speed then our ego says who is that illeterate driver and we try to speed our car . ends up with tension and may be worst accident
  
  
• From: Mithra (@ ac92bb4b.ipt.aol.com) on: Sun Jul 8 19:29:30
  
  Dear Venkat,
  Thanks for your response. Kinda agree your concept. But according to Mutziputz, Ego is both developed and undeveloped where developed Ego is must. I can agree that. Can you?
  
  Dear Mutz,
  You've brought up a very good topic. "Conscience" and its coincidence with Ego.
  I can say that activeConscience and developedEgo are inter related. People who have developed ego will sure have active conscience.
  
  I dont believe spiritual/religious belief is the cause. It might help but can never be the root cause.
  
  The demand and the expectations of our society affects partly and again it cannot be the root cause or it cannot be the major cause for the active conscience.
  
  These are my views but still I cannot also explain that where does the active Conscience is emerging from. I am expceting the response from others.
  
  Thanx,
  Mithra
  
  
• From: hurricane (@ gwextclu.seagate.com) on: Mon Jul 9 03:14:51
  
  As u said alway bending down to others is not good true but u wont loose anything by being humble ,the right word to say. To achieve something you musn't have the word EGO in your life bcz ego can drop you anytime , anywhere.
  It will say "here u go".Eventhough it is human nature where ego is in but that doesn't mean you must have it. It is not that hard for a person to throw "ego" . It a matter whether u are willing or not !
  
  
• From: Mithra (@ 136.181.195.25) on: Mon Jul 9 10:35:01
  
  Dear Hurricane,
  Thanks for your response.
  Did you read Osho's idea on this, sent by Raja before?
  If you try to drop it, you will attain to a certain subtle ego again which says, "I have become humble."
  Don't try to be humble. That's again ego in hiding - but it's not dead.
  
  Do you agree?
  
  
  
  
• From: ravi (@ guardian.aig.com) on: Tue Jul 10 17:41:23
  
  Raja, thanx for the Osho post. It was very profound, we need to ponder deeply on his words. Though consciously we can all see that ego is an illusion, dropping it completely from our sub-conscious will take an enlightened mind.
  
  hurricane,
  To achieve something you musn't have the word EGO in your life
  Once the ego is dropped, there is no question of achieving anything. You have a desire to achieve only because 'achievements' boost your ego; you can tell yourself and others 'I have achieved this'. If there is no ego, why do u need to achieve anything ?
  
  
• From: Mutziputz (@ netcache2-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz) on: Tue Jul 17 16:47:43
  
  Vanakkam,
  Although i would hesitate to disagree with an authority loke Osho, i would like to pursue this idea a little further.
  
  To me, Ego, (capitalised to indicate the essential part of man, rather than ego, the me, me, me, bit) can no more be picked up or put down voluntarily, than can my head or a leg. All we can do is to work with it, or ignore it. If we work with it, we evolve as humans, which has benefits for us both as individuals and as a species. If we ignore it, we remain stuck in our development. And quite clearly, as a species, we are working with it, or we would still all be living in caves and eating each other.
  As far as the point about Ego being an illusion, our physical body, through which the Ego is expressed, is also an illusion, as it merely reflects our spiritual being, our true and eternal self.
  
  Poyittu varan, Mutz.
  
  

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