Topic started by *rak* (@ an7.emirates.net.ae) on Wed Jun 25 04:37:04 .
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Iam a die hard fan of his.
I just wanna find out which of his books do you people find the most interesting. To discuss some of his stories... share ideas on how the climax should have been better etc... anyone??

Responses:

• From: Daniel. (@ c211-30-169-230.livrp1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) on: Sat Dec 20 05:51:37
  
  Hi. I have only recently discovered Jeffery Archer through his prison diary VI and immediatley went to the store and brought The fourth Estate, Sons of fortune, Not a Penny more not a penny less, Shall we tell the president, Hounour amoung theives, As the crow flies, Kane and Abel, A quiver full of arrows and The prodical daughter!!
  
  His work is great. I have only read his prison dairy, the fourth estate, sons of fortune and Kane and Abel (I was going for Abel!)
  
  
• From: jaybee (@ 210.186.103.214) on: Sat Dec 20 11:31:09 EST 2003
  
  There is also anothet short story collection called, 'A Twist in the Tale'.
  
  
• From: Arun Shivanandan (@ 210.212.228.8) on: Sat Jan 3 03:30:32 EST 2004
  
  Most of Archers novels are politics based.Ofcourse,doing justice to the politition in Himself.The best one is 'Kane & Abel' ofcourse.'Eleventh Commandmend' and 'Fourth Protocol' are good.so is 'Shall We....'.'Sons of Fortune' resembles a cliche pattern followed in bollywood movies.'Prodigal daughter' and 'first among equals' lack the thrill,the 1st is a cliche and the second is just politics,something like the author narrating history.Ofcourse,no arguement to the fact that he is one of the biggest frauds in the history.heard that he will have to return his peer-hood.
  
  
• From: justin (@ nsd-nat.nsd.k12.mi.us) on: Tue Jan 20 09:11:09 EST 2004
  
  I have a question? What is the "fourth Estate" in his book the Fourth Estate. I want to read it but haven't had the chance yet. What is the significance of the title the Fourth Estate?
  
  
• From: quake (@ 202.68.154.19) on: Tue Jan 20 19:48:32 EST 2004
  
  http://www.iomx.com/online_ebooks.htm
  
  
• From: quake (@ 202.68.154.19) on: Tue Jan 20 19:49:20 EST 2004
  
  http://www.iomx.com/online_ebooks.htm
  
  
• From: hassan (@ 195.219.183.6) on: Sun Jan 25 06:27:02 EST 2004
  
  hello
  i know its stupid of me to ask this but in sons of fortune which one of the twin becomes the governor??
  
  
• From: johnbhoy (@ user-2348.l4.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk) on: Tue Feb 3 08:05:22 EST 2004
  
  Hi folks, I now consider myself to be a massive Jeffery Archer fan after reading the eleventh commandment i then read sons of fortune, not a penny more, not a penny less, shall we tell the president, Kane and abel, A matter of honour and tonight i will begin The fouth estate (can anyone tell me how good it is)Also can anyone tell me if his short stories are any good
  
  re which twin ends up as govenor?
  
  this is a good question and my answer would be fletcher. we know that the mayor is standing between them "When he came to a halt in the center of the stage, the candates took there places on each side of him, Fletcher on his left, Nat on his right, as befitted their political persuasion." And in the last paragraph we are told "The mayor picked up the coin and turned round to face the candidates. He smiled at the man now standing on his right, and said, "may i be first to congratulte you governor."" As it is clearly stated that the mayor picks up the coin then TURNS to face them with the new governor NOW standing to his right. Does anyone know if this toss of a coin rule really apply
  
  
• From: Leslie (@ aga04943a.mcilink.com) on: Tue Mar 2 11:29:59 EST 2004
  
  I want to shed a little bit more light on which twin becomes governor. I remember reading a passage in the book where there was another coin toss but I can't place exactly where it is (perhaps in the section on deciding who goes first in one of the debates earlier in the book) and one of the characters (can't remember which one) said the coin toss was a mute point because he always calls "heads" and it would have had the same result no matter who went first... i think if I can find that passage again, it might help confirm who became governor.
  
  
• From: smcgiff (@ dialup102.ts523.cwt.esat.net) on: Sun Mar 28 09:38:40 EST 2004
  
  Fletcher won. Leslie, the coin toss you refer to is on page 320 in the paperback.
  
  
• From: Ravana (@ 61.95.231.140) on: Mon Apr 19 03:14:45 EDT 2004
  
  Hi Everybody,
  
  Just now i've gone thru the 11th commandments and i've a doubt.
  Why the author (archer) have killed Chris Jackson in ? The mafia group can obtain so many people to be substituted instead of connor fitzerald,no ? i's really shocked to read that jackson was hanged in some silly retrospection that connor have saved his life during the vietnam war...Can anybody clarify me ?
  
  bye..bye..
  
  
• From: J. (@ 61.1.250.48) on: Thu Apr 22 13:11:15 EDT 2004
  
  I found Kane and Abel the best. As the crow flies was also equally inspiring.Really a gifted writer.
  
  
• From: Saumya Chopra (@ 220.224.19.33) on: Fri May 14 11:04:13 EDT 2004
  
  i'm a real fan of jeffrey archer after having read eleventh commandment... after that i read kane and abel and then prodigal daughter.a twist in the tale is just truly amazing...
  
  
• From: Sara (@ d141-132-22.home.cgocable.net) on: Fri Aug 13 03:38:38
  
  OMG, thanks for clearing up the sons of fortune thing, i wanted Nat to win. I always liked him better.
  
  
• From: VP (@ 207.238.65.242) on: Thu Sep 2 09:58:04 EDT 2004
  
  I read "Kane and Abel" and listened to the recorded tape by Barbara Rosenblat of " The prodigal daughter".
  Although I enjoyed both, I found them both too
  predictable and only Abel was shown (at first) as an interesting character.
  
  
• From: john (@ 61.1.209.109) on: Mon Sep 13 14:03:34 EDT 2004
  
  more entreprising are the short story collections
  my favourite is 'the first miracle"
  you just cant be creative like that
  
  
• From: elissa (@ 203-219-152-146-nsw.tpgi.com.au) on: Wed Sep 15 18:51:18 EDT 2004
  
  I was stumped with the winner thing. For a while i was really glad that i didnt know who won, just becasue i fell in love with both the characters... but secretly nat was my favorite...
  
  
• From: Steve (@ 193-118.35-65.tampabay.rr.com) on: Sun Sep 19 23:57:15 EDT 2004
  
  Right - now that I knew which debate it was easy to find. Top of chapter 31, which is page 285:
  
  "Heads or tails?" asked the moderator.
  "Tails," said Barbara Hunter.
  "Tails it is," said the moderator. He looked across at Mrs. Hunter and nodded. Fletcher couldn't complain, because he would have called heads - he always did...
  
  I also agree that this is one of Archer's weaker works. For heaven's sake - he used the coin flip to decide an election in First Among Equals which was a much better work. I was most dissapointed.
  
  
• From: Martin (@ 164.164.98.3) on: Mon Sep 20 04:35:09 EDT 2004
  
  I like his short stories best: "A quiver full of arrows", "A twist in the tale", "Twelve Red Herrings" and "To cut a long story short" all have very good stories. My personal favorite is "Old Love" from the first book.
  
  
• From: David Evans (@ host213-122-167-135.in-addr.btopenworld.com) on: Mon Oct 11 08:25:52 EDT 2004
  
  Just re-read Kane and Abel for the fourth time and something that has always confused me is why, when Abel rings up Mccarthy does he get such a negative response. I cant quite work out what the click Abel hears. After studying Mccarthyism at school it does interest me to know why Archer felt that Mccarthy would respond so forcefully
  
  
• From: Raquel Hassan (@ 195-44-170-11.metrong.com) on: Wed Oct 20 13:05:14 EDT 2004
  
  Hi there,
  I am a Nigerian and I reside in Nigeria.
  I am just reading Jeffrey's book(Honour among thieves)It's very intersting,I think Jeffrey is very good,I enjoyed every page of it.But i was confused about some unsettled issues in the book.I will like to know if the leader of the Mossad in the book actually died,Why was the lady that was doing the killing was caught or probably killed.............I just told a friend holidaying the US to get the Sons of fortune and some other books by Jeffrey Archer.
  
  
• From: cherian (@ ppp62-143.dsl-blr.eth.net) on: Wed Oct 27 06:06:59 EDT 2004
  
  hi does anyone know where i can get a pdf or online version of sons of fortune
  
  
• From: Joe (@ ip68-230-147-37.ri.ri.cox.net) on: Wed Nov 3 16:38:51 EST 2004
  
  do any of you know any other authors which I would like, if i like jeffrey archer
  
  
• From: Claire Hay (@ 212.219.198.36) on: Tue Nov 9 04:24:09 EST 2004
  
  does anyone know where i could get kane and abel on film as i read the book and have heard that the film is excellent
  
  
• From: ya (@ igld-83-130-204-61.inter.net.il) on: Tue Nov 23 15:38:37 EST 2004
  
  hi,
  i am despretley seeking a copy of archer's - cristina rosenthal....
  
  please help!!!
  
  
• From: sdf (@ 220.227.179.5) on: Wed Nov 24 11:44:33 EST 2004
  
  I loved Chritina Rosenthal. It is in his collection "A quiver full of arrows" i guess.
  
  
• From: kwadwo kusi (@ 81.199.93.140) on: Thu Dec 16 22:59:43 EST 2004
  
  i guess the "fourth estae " is about Rupert keith murdoch ala Keith Townsend. And RObert maxwell .both media moguls and their quest to control the largest media empire in the world. could any one be so interested in reading "DA vinci code" by Dan Brown .it's the best book i have read for the year
  
  
• From: kwadwo kusi (@ 81.199.93.140) on: Thu Dec 16 23:04:05 EST 2004
  
  in political science the media is often reffered to as the "the fourth estate of the realm"meaning it comes next after the executive,legislative and judicial branches of government.
  
  
• From: mack (@ ip-83-97.dot.net.au) on: Wed Dec 29 00:53:50 EST 2004
  
  Hi, i'm currently reading Sons of Fortune, and i'm not sure if I missed something or not, but what did Su Ling find out in Korea
  
  

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