Fate of the malaysian indian youths.
Topic started by VJ (@ 210.187.2.158) on Thu Oct 16 01:16:11 .
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The amount of voilence that happening among indian youths are increasing tremendously and the amount of education preference among them is decreasing.They are easily influenced by indian media's which regularly promotes movies which contains extreme voilence in them.And they usually choose to end thier studies at G.C.E level or maybe lower. Youths are the one who is going to put the standing of our society and they are the one who going to decide where we will stand. Are we forever going to be third class citizens?Did our ancestors gained us freedom to waste it?What method of life that our people think enough for them..cukup makan? I'm not condemning our people,our people have the brains and brawns but why waste it?
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- From: mathanal (@ )
on: Thu Jul 8 01:00:44
i support you satya.
mathanal
- From: Prakash Ram Nair (@ 203.106.77.247)
on: Fri Jul 9 15:08:37 EDT 2004
after reading most of ur oppinions i can see some bright thinking people n also on the other hand the loussy stinking minded ones. i wud have to say our problems are caused by ourselves actually. we seem to look at a problem and gaze at it. tertiary education prob dat we faced recently for instance. u see we alredy have our very own AIMST but u know wat there are those who look at it with disgust. TAFE is another. we can see how UNITAR has grown under the chinese support. indians here in malaysia tend to think getting into the indians circular is not a right thing to do. TEMPLES are built at high costs n beauty but believe me thats not goin to guaranty our future. y not spend the same money for poor childrens edu.i believe "HANDS THE HELP ARE HOLIER THAN HANDS THAT PRAY". i personnaly made a vow to GOD dat i wud give my first pay entirely for poor indians spm n stpm fees. i don mean to be proud of myself but how many of us actually do it.
- From: Prakash Ram Nair (@ 203.106.77.247)
on: Fri Jul 9 15:10:33 EDT 2004
a man is in trouble n we seek governments help to deal with it. i m talkin bout welfare dept. i m ashamed dat we cant form a society amongst us to help an INDIAN. the gov is slow but its doin its job believe me. y not we do it ourselves.n fellow people out there do a job cleanly n finish within time n date.dont because of u guys the other indians are not trusted. 1 last thing i have to say. "YOU COME UP IN LIFE FIRST, N ALONG YOUR WAY BRING TWO FELLOW INDIANS WITH YOU" with this u n the other 2 will come up. forget the indian crab story for heavens sake. Indians Valge....
- From: nirosha (@ j38.stw21.jaring.my)
on: Sun Jul 11 22:53:34 EDT 2004
What you say is so true Prakash. As a community, we need to close ranks not pull ranks. While I'm happy for many of us who've made it and have a positive attitude to life, we should equally be magnanimous in spreading the message of self-improvement to our brethren.
We are a shrinking community, so no matter how heterogenous we are, we should consider ourselves only as the Indian community. Only then can we collectively fight for our rights. Fight, struggle, etc - they all mean the same to me. We are an ancient race, it's such a crying shame when we are made to feel we do not matter as a society. Highlighting our social problems should be top priority for our communal leaders. It is the shrinking violets who sit in Parliament, State Assemblies, Town Councils and say nothing that I'm disturbed about. What do you all say?
- From: J.Suresh (@ c-176-126.carrels.unb.ca)
on: Sat Jul 17 10:44:20 EDT 2004
IT's time that we indians in the country close ranks. I have never had problems about having friends of so called other "ranks".To me indians are the same..well atleast that's true in malaysia. The only divisions here are that of wealth.Some indians are poor, some middle class and some rich.
But wait...why continue harping on the poor people and the gansgters ?
- From: J.Suresh (@ c-176-126.carrels.unb.ca)
on: Sat Jul 17 10:45:09 EDT 2004
It simply escapes me. I used to take taxi,bus other local transportation system and if lucky drive.
But one fact that I always encounter when I see decent hardworking indians. They work hard and are successful. Successful you say?...how? well, a taxi driver that I met was beaming with joy saying that he educated his children until they've graduated from university (If I can remember one of his kids is in Comp Science)...There are many Indians out there ..so called..poor Indians who are actually doing well. So instead of crying foul that we indians are a bunch of incorrigible and despondent race...please muster the incredible wealth of hardwork and determination which we have in us to achieve our dreams...Am I a dreamer...No..I don't think so.I've talked to many people from different economic backgrounds which I think could qualify me to be an optimist.
- From: J.Suresh (@ c-176-126.carrels.unb.ca)
on: Sat Jul 17 10:45:40 EDT 2004
As for MIC, I can't say very much.But we Indians must learn to trust and help each other. Why should we be jealous when other Indians are successful. If they are it's because they worked hard and ofcourse they're shrewd...but should we just put a blanket label that they're cronies??Even so...use whatever opportunities ...no..create opportunities to help not only ourselves but for the rest of the Indian communities in Malaysia.
We should emulate the Chinese...in this respect...it's odd isn't it. The race who built the first Modern Society..(harappa and Mohenjo Daro ) now has to relearn some aspects of hard work from another race...
- From: J.Suresh (@ c-176-126.carrels.unb.ca)
on: Sat Jul 17 10:46:03 EDT 2004
But we will rice up again..Btw...Who believes that the Indian economic participation would be up to 25 % in say...30-40 yrs.
I think it's a possibility...if we start to reorganize ourselves first (better work ethics..etc) before branching off to help the community.
Regards,
- From: Kiran (@ c-24-9-94-236.client.comcast.net)
on: Sat Sep 4 00:59:22
I dont think we're gonna last that long in Msia.We're a dying race in S.E. asia.Historically yes we have made an impact through language/theological influences...but as recent times has shown...our social structure is falling apart and so is our influence(if there was any to start off with)on sociopolitical issues.there isnt much we can do about it...I admire the positive optimism i see but to neglect the inevitable is only plain denial in my view.I read this book once ...couldnt remember exactly the title...went something like "melayu" or something along those lines...and it had detailed description of what was needed for to be categorized as a malay.It isnt easy anymore for me to just stand by and watch foreigners(ie indonesian,arab,pakistani etc) coming into the country and getting away with "bumiputera" claims while we, the people who actually built the country(literally speaking) being turned a blind eye upon. I JUST CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE.I'm not some kind of plague and im sick of being viewed as such.My point is, if the general Malaysian perception AND the constitutional rights regarding minorities doesnt change...I'm packing my bags and heading off to somewhere else WHERE I CAN BE TREATED AS A FOREIGNER IN A FOREIGN LAND...which is only right...and in a manner in which no one should ever be treated in their own homeland
- From: ukchristian (@ 202.174.158.9)
on: Sun Sep 5 07:54:31 EDT 2004
Tamilians have a great history and they will consider reaching New glories wherever they are ! Long live tamil and her Children !
- From: jeya (@ 210.187.125.251)
on: Tue Sep 28 07:10:55 EDT 2004
nothing's going to change unless u change it. kiran, u can run whereever u want but look at the other countries, they're not without their own problems. we're not going to die that soon if we could maintain our language (tamil schools basically) culture and faith.
- From: Shashi (@ 218.111.1.29)
on: Fri Oct 8 14:10:25 EDT 2004
as i know most of our people is wasting the time with cinema's and most of the time talking and lepaking with friend's for many hour's, why not put that hour for useful purpose. I'm right? as u see the richest man in malaysia is an Indian I'm really proud to hear that one of our race person is the top in this malay country and do u think Datok Ananda Krishan just sit and lepaking like most of the people do now? to get bad name is really very easy and to get bad name with a second u can get it. See who reach to mount Everest its 2 indian guys, its really proud to say.. So let's say "PROUD TO BE INDIAN"
simon shashi
- From: Shashi (@ 218.111.1.29)
on: Fri Oct 8 14:10:34 EDT 2004
as i know most of our people is wasting the time with cinema's and most of the time talking and lepaking with friend's for many hour's, why not put that hour for useful purpose. I'm right? as u see the richest man in malaysia is an Indian I'm really proud to hear that one of our race person is the top in this malay country and do u think Datok Ananda Krishan just sit and lepaking like most of the people do now? to get bad name is really very easy and to get bad name with a second u can get it. See who reach to mount Everest its 2 indian guys, its really proud to say.. So let's say "PROUD TO BE INDIAN"
simon shashi
- From: Jeyaratnam Sabaratnam (@ 210.19.80.2)
on: Wed Oct 20 23:47:27 EDT 2004
Why Indian farts smell like parupu curry. The the chinese' farts should smell like Bak Kut Teh and Malay ones should smell like sambal belacan!
- From: aa (@ brf-ce08-g2-0.tm.net.my)
on: Thu Dec 9 12:04:05
there is new website 4 malaysian indian..in malay check it out http://www.freewebs.com/sejarah/index.htm
- From: shan (@ brf-ce08-g2-0.tm.net.my)
on: Fri Dec 24 03:33:59 EST 2004
I had the opprtunity to view the forum and it was delightful to know that many Indian Youth have a serious perception on what is happening to Malaysian Indians. As an individuals there is nothing much that anyone can do. Take M.K.Gandhi for an example,he had the burning desire to see change in Indian's life but he did not step into the problems to face it and against it, instead he moved with the people and changed their mind set, created the hope that faded in them and then created a gruop of society(practically the whole India) and then went into the central circle to face the problem. I suggest that if you guys want to do some change, better join hand and change the mind set of the surrounding first, then a change will occure. meet me as the consenses of mind are the same.
- From: shan (@ brf-ce08-g2-0.tm.net.my)
on: Fri Dec 24 03:36:39 EST 2004
mail me instead. shan@connectmalaysia.com
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