Topic started by Raghuvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on Tue Jan 8 10:41:32 .
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I am aware she is of Dravidan Origin, but is she really from Karnataka?

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• From: ,,,,, (@ dial81-131-51-102.in-addr.btopenworld.com) on: Mon Jul 21 14:36:33 EDT 2003
  
  who cares what mother language she belongs to??..forget her cos all this hatred and hate chat has been typed cos of her issue.....she dont care bout south india so allow her....
  
  
• From: Harish Kumar (@ 203.195.215.254) on: Wed Jul 23 11:02:07 EDT 2003
  
  At any rate a tuluva like Madhwa preffered to establish ashta matts in karnataka rather than kerala inspite of greater security and safety.He trusted kannadigas rather than mallus.Later great kannadigas developed his theory further.Mallus stick with your fuc*** mayavada theories.
  
  Tulus will stick with kannadigas only and not the stupid and evil mallus.
  
  
• From: Harish Kumar (@ 203.195.215.254) on: Wed Jul 23 11:06:41 EDT 2003
  
  The handsomest and most beautiful of Tulus are found only in KRN and its good to do with the good enviroment and respect given to Tulu culture and language so they grow well.
  
  
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• From: govind sahai (@ ) on: Mon Jan 5 13:58:29
  
  oh come on... she must definitely b of aryan origin... honestly, science has proven that dravidians r of african roots... how can africans look like that? she is just like lara dutta, an aryan family who has been living in the south.
  
  i mean.. if an indian is born in germany, he/she will speak german. but how does that make their race german? get what i mean? u cant claim a person is from a particular race just because they speak a certain language. look at her eyes, face n then decide.
  
  china? u gotta be kiddin me. well that must explain why all the chinese people have green/blue eyes n r winning beauty contests...
  
  
• From: govind sahai (@ 219.95.207.55) on: Mon Jan 5 14:12:03 EST 2004
  
  ok.. its me again. i have more proof for u guys.
  
  aishwarya rai may have been born in mangalore or wherever but the fact remains that she is a konkani. look it up n u will see. at the end of the day, her ethnicity is konkanese. and the konkanese are not dravidians. they are among the minority aryans who live in the dravidian part of india .
  
  if u search on the konkanese people, u will see that although of aryan origin, they are located mostly in Maharashtra, Kerala and Karnataka (as in Ash's case). So this proves that she is in fact an aryan indian.
  
  check out this site: http://www.ksafe.com/profiles/p_code4/709.html
  
  this will clear any doubts as of her family's origin. tq. have a nice day...
  
  
• From: Gopi R (@ host10.209.113.191.conversent.net) on: Mon Jan 12 13:18:54 EST 2004
  
  Hmmm...She resembles a friend of mine who is pure Telugu. Wow! The women of India. They never cease to amaze me...
  
  
• From: Ravi (@ ac81c74b.ipt.aol.com) on: Sat Jan 17 22:01:03 EST 2004
  
  I think Guru Dutt is also a Konkani. He was born in Bangalore IIRC.
  
  
• From: shri (@ cache-loh-ac06.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun Jan 18 06:55:33 EST 2004
  
  rubbish
  she is definetiley a tulu who is more comfortable speaking kannada. she went to school in mangalore. a vcouple of years ago she attended the Bunts conference[Bunts ate thulu speakers] and after speaking few sentences in thulu she switched over to kannada till the very end
  
  
• From: govind sahai (@ 219.95.204.36) on: Thu Jan 22 22:21:39 EST 2004
  
  well shri.. obviously u didn't check out my link as it backs my claims...
  
  u are probably a tulu urself which is why ur desperately trying to categorize ash as such as well. well.. for credibility's sake, i am a punjabi, but im not claiming she is. whereby u are claiming that she is a tulu like u. its pretty clear that all ur trying to do is to lick up some of ash's glory and fame..
  
  my advice; get a life!
  
  as i said... one can speak german, one's nationality may be german, but that does not make one's RACE/ETHNICITY german! same applies to ash..
  
  so the bare truth stilll stands... ASH IS A KONKANI!
  
  
• From: govind sahai (@ 219.95.204.36) on: Thu Jan 22 22:26:08 EST 2004
  
  also.. ur statement about 'Bunts ATE thulu speakers' was quite funny. ur good with jokes, stick to it n let me deal with the facts! bye.
  
  
• From: premnazir (@ ac927ca1.ipt.aol.com) on: Fri Jan 23 22:03:38 EST 2004
  
  She is from a Tulu-speaking Bunt family. She spent most of her life in Bombay and I read somewhere that she speaks very little Kannada. She is from the same community as Shilpa Shetty and that actor in Hindi films with surname Shetty (his name escapes me right now ). She is definitely not Konkani. Agreed, Guru Dutt was and so also is Leena Chandavarkar, Kishore Kumar's last wife
  
  I think Hema Malini looked even more beautiful (than Aishwarya Rai) when she was in her twenties.
  Aishwarya Rai has a Firangi look, because of her green eyes... Hemamalini on the other hand has very Indian looks and an incredibly expressive face. If you had to imagine what Kalidasa's Shakuntala looked like, that would be Hemamalini, not Aishwarya Rai or anyone else ... I am sure I am stirring a hornet's nest here. Be that as it may...
  
  
• From: govind sahai (@ 219.95.206.253) on: Sat Jan 24 00:30:02 EST 2004
  
  well premnazir... first and foremost i still stand by my statement that she IS a konkani. like shri, u are most probably a tulu too i think. hmmmm.. feel sorry for u.
  
  coz ur statement that aishwarya rai does not look indian already highlights your ignorance. for your information... kalidasa was a poet of arya india NOT dravida india. so being dravidian yourself, i would strongly advise u not to make comments on how HIS shakuntala looked like. leave that to us aryan indians who share a common brotherhood with him.
  
  hema malini is NOT an aryan indian therefore she would most definitely NOT epitomise shakuntala. aishwarya, as i have said, is konkanese. thus she may represent arya india/shakuntala as the konkanese are indo-aryan anyways.
  
  and stop deluding urselves! the only reason that certain south indian people have coloured eyes is that somewhere along the line there was an aryan indian married into their families.
  
  its all scientific. scientists have proven the fact that india is in fact a nation of indo-aryans (meaning aryans of india) and dravidians. just look in any dictionary @ reference book, dravidian = people descended from the aboriginals of india. i mean, its proven! the closest living relative of the south indians are the aboriginals of australia. and they dont have green/blue eyes! why? cause they did not have aryan intermingling in australia until the last 100 years ago!
  
  i rest my case!
  
  
• From: Premnazir (@ acada223.ipt.aol.com) on: Sat Jan 24 09:46:33 EST 2004
  
  You can find information about Aishwarya Rai in
  hundreds of sites if not more and not one of them says that she is a Konkani. All of them say she is
  a Bunt. Bunts are Tulu-speaking people ... End of reasoning ! Anyone who knows about people of the west coast of Karnataka can tell you that Rai is the surname of a caste of Tulu speaking people !(You have jumped to the conclusion that I must be a Tulu. How and why you jumped to the conclusion, who knows ? Most likely explanation is that you are a clueless idiot and that is why! )
  
  All your ranting about Aryans and Dravidians is puerile and childish ! There is no pure Aryan in India and you can keep fantasizing all you want about your being Aryan ! Any person who knows some modern genetics and has been keeping up with the Human genome project will laugh at your claims ! I do not care whether Hema malini is Aryan or not, but everyone recognises her beauty
  and most people would agree that she looks far better than any of the Punjabi actresses of the 70's or 90's for that matter. There were quite a few north Indian actresses who wanted to look like her, in the 70's and 80's in fact !
  Hema malini is probably MORE aryan than you, but I could not care less ! As a person who has studied Kalidasa's plays in Sanskrit and knows something about Sanskrit literature, I am definitely more qualified to talk about Kalidasa than a clueless idiot like you ! What do you know ?
  
  Lastly, I dont think I want to engage in any arguments with such a STUPID MORON like you who
  is making outrageous statements like "Aishwarya Rai is Konkani" etc etc !!!!! Scram, you idiot !
  (I dont think you will even understand what the last sentence means ! )
  
  
• From: govind sahai (@ 219.95.206.131) on: Sat Jan 24 11:58:32 EST 2004
  
  hmmm... childish? me or u with ur immature taunts and super-inflated ego? of course there is no such thing as the pure aryan. but obviously ur ignorance led u to assume that only U know that.
  
  and trust me. i can say a million things in english that u would definitely not understand coz it is my first language. but i will refrain from doing so knowing that it will definitely demean me n place me at the same sub-standard level that u unfortunately exist in. u have my sympathies.
  
  and i'm sorry if my assumption that u were a southern indian proved wrong but i think that must be because u have a higher level of bad blood in ur family. trust me. it shows!
  
  and just because u studied sankrit what makes u think that u've become a wiz at the sanskrit speaking nation of the ancient aryans? have u forgotten that ur family as well probably served as our slaves long before? :) it's like a hindi-speaking person saying i know everything about india! lolz.. shallow prem. very shallow.
  
  oh wow..! human genome project! oooohh.. how long did u take to learn that phrase? did ur daddy help u learn it? lolz... really feel sorry for u south indians. first u guyz were our slaves and now u want to be us. hmmm, sad... well anyways.. what the whole world knows of indian is this, national language = hindi/english, centre of admin= delhi, etc. u prem, n other south indians are basically nothing :) which is why my ancestors made urs eat dust :)
  
  the world knows the truth prem. n the world knows what u losers are! they recognize the superiority of aryan india. even hitler knew that the north was the hub of aryanism and the south is the hub of the african-descended indians (such as urself).
  
  so before i stop.. let me just say that for a fact i speak better english than u. i mean gimme a break, it IS my first language. whats urs? lemme guess.. tulu/tamil/kannadam? hmmmmm.. impressive line-up. i swear some of these languages sound like swear words..! lolz..
  
  and whatever u say, however this thread ends up, rest assured that ash is and always will be associated with hindi cinema (her tamil movies were mostly flops, she only won awards for hindi acting) so basically all of the world will always associate her with aryan india. where she belongs!
  
  
• From: Harish Kumar (@ 203-195-203-203.now-india.net.in) on: Sat Jan 24 12:36:33 EST 2004
  
  Most Punjabis are born to barbaric invaders.Almost all punjabis are b**astards.
  
  There are two classes of beautiful ppl in India.The ones in NI are mostly children of women raped by Greeks , Shakas,Hunas,Mughals...list is endless.
  
  The others are in coastal Karnataka and Maharastra.They are the result of intermarraige between Greeks & Romans and Indians as this regions had great trade relations with Greece.Most international models come from coastal KRN and Maharashtra.