Topic started by FlowerGuy (@ 202.95.127.5) on Wed Jul 31 10:59:53 .
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avan madiyil unnai marandhu
oru nodiyil unnai izhandhu
mottu virindhu malarndha ennai
sumakka thinarum chinna thaaye...

ulagam unnai keli seithaalum
uravu unnai othukki vaithaalum
un ullathil uraigindra kanavai
uthirathil kulithu unargiren thaaye...

appan peyar kedkavum matten.
appanai pol kaivida matten.
annam thantha unnai maraven.
annaiye nee kan kalangaathe...

vanna vanna pookkal undaam.
chinna chinna bommaigal undaam.
thigattum inippu "mittaigal" undaam.
ulagai kaana thavam purigindren.
garpathil ennai kalaithu vidaathe..

nadanthathai enni kavalai vendaam.
nettru mudintha naragathai alasi
indru nalla mudivai eduthaal
naalai namakku sorkkam thaaye.

ennai nambi vaazhvai thodangu.
unnai nambi naanum varuven.
iruvar naam inaindhu inimel,
irandil ondru paarpom thaaye.

Responses:

• From: Iyappan (@ lan-202-144-73-10.maa.sify.net) on: Wed Jul 31 11:56:47
  
  Flower guy
  
  Touchy and Good poem
  
  Perivargalin varthaiyil
  Kuzandhaiyin thaalattu
  kuzandhiyay vilayadiya
  Annaikku arivu enge pochu ??
  ---
  
  Nalla irukku sir
  Iyappan
  
  
• From: Shakthi (@ bangdp-36-228.mantraonline.com) on: Wed Jul 31 14:35:16
  
  Nice n touchy poem!
  
  
  flowerguy,
  
  "ennai nambi vaazhvai thodangu.
  unnai nambi naanum varuven.
  iruvar naam inaindhu inimel,
  irandil ondru paarpom thaaye."<<<<<<
  
  iruvar naam inaindu, well......
  
  why should it remain iruvar!
  She can surely find a husband for herself!
  Who loves her with her son.
  
  anyway..
  
  
  Iyappan,
  
  "kuzandhiyay vilayadiya
  Annaikku arivu enge pochu ?? "<<<<<
  
  I condemn that iyappan!!!!
  
  How can u talk like that!
  
  thandaikku mattum arivu kaanama pocha?
  
  its act of TWO!
  Dont just critise one..just because she happen to carry the identity of the past happenings.
  
  WHY DO WE STILL CONSIDER, ITS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF ONLLLY THE WOMEN TO SAFE GUARD HER VIRGINITY.
  
  BOTH MEN AND WOMEN ARE MORALLY EQUAL, JUST BIOLOGICALLY SAME.
  
  I WONDER WHEN THIS CRAZZY MALE CHAUVANISTIC WORLD WOULD OPEN ITS EYES AND SEE!!!!!
  
  
  HIGHLY IRRITATED,
  SHAKTHI
  
  
• From: FlowerGuy (@ 202.95.127.5) on: Fri Aug 2 06:01:36
  
  Cool...Shakthi...Cool..
  Count 1..2...3...till..77... :-)
  
  Why did you assume that the kid is her son? It could be her daughter also.
  pennaagiya neengal pennai..marandhaalum....
  aanaagiya naan pennai vittu kodukka villai paarungal... :-)
  
  Hello Iyappan...enna sound-aiye kaanom? "mounam" sammathamaa? "mounam" kadavula? :-)
  
  edhirppu therivippeergalo...allathu...mannippu kedpeergalo...enakku theriyaathu...
  edhirppo...mannippo....4 perukku naduvil kelungal... :-)
  
  
• From: Iyappan (@ lan-202-144-73-10.maa.sify.net) on: Fri Aug 2 07:21:55
  
  Fine
  Mounam kalaigirathu...
  
  Ithu muthalil vegu sensitivana vishamayam.. adhavathu ..
  1. thavaru irandu pakkamum undu .. aanal kastappaduvathu kuzanthai. kuzanthaiyai paRRi ninaikka thavari vittom.
  
  
  2. iru thavaril pirantha oru thavaru enRu kuzandhai aanaal.. thaay kuRRama illai Thanthai kuRRama? allathu iruvarin KuRRama??
  
  3. Ithu India. if you act like foreigners behave like foreigner.. Kuzanthai uruvagum munne thadukka muyarchigal merkolla padavendiyathu thaane.. adhai vittu .. en pirandhay magane en pirandhaayo appadinnu pinnadi padinaal sarippaduma ??
  
  4. thervu saiyappadum aal nallavana kettavana ena theriyamal thannai izandhathu thavaru. thavaruthal manidha iyalbu .. oththu kolgiren.. aanal siramam yarukku?? valai veesiyavanukka
  illai valaiyil veezndhavalukka??.
  
  oosi idam kodukkamal nool nuzaiyathu enbathu pazamozi.
  
  I know shakthi may not accept .. and this shouldnt go as serious arguement.
  
  and yet .. i would like not to participate in this argument further. as i told you it is very sensitive. if you spell one wrong word also makes lots of Problem..
  ---------
  and shakthi..
  I am sorry hope i have not told any thing against women Ok .. It is all about (pre)caution
  seRRu madaiyil purandu varum panRi ethirvarin vilagi selluthal thaan sariye thavira.. panRi seithathu thavara illai naan seithathu thavara ena nianithal sarippadathu.. ( i definitly consider a man who runs away like this from girl / women, as pig or lesser than that) Hope i havent told any thing wrong. If any thing wrong I am really sorry for that
  
  Iyappan
  
  
• From: Sheik (@ 167.218.152.161) on: Fri Aug 2 16:09:45
  
  Hmmmm soodaana vaakku vaatham thaan...
  
  ithula naan enna solla varrennnaa
  iyappan neenga mannippu ketka vendiya avasiyam illainu nenaikkiren.
  
  Shakthi,
  neenga eppadi pothuvaa intha ulagaththai aanaathikka ulagam nu sollalaam. Neengalaa appadi mudivu pannida koodaathu. apporam neenga highly irritated appadinnu sonninga. ithula irritate aaga enna irukku nu sollunga.
  
  Iyappan ketta kelviyila enna thappu irukku?
  
  "Look before you leap" appadinnu innoru pazhamozhi aangilathula irukku. So ethirvarum igazhchigalai manathil nirutthi irunthaal izhappugalukku idam irukkaathu illaiyaa?
  
  
  
• From: Shakthi (@ bangdp-35-133.mantraonline.com) on: Sat Aug 3 04:46:52
  
  iyappan,
  
  "kuzanthaiyai paRRi ninaikka thavari vittom."<<<
  
  yes! I agree.
  
  one thing I would like to point out....
  
  We are definitely not gonna benefit, by arguing who did the mistake?
  right?
  
  Like what u said, consequences matters.
  So ONLY because the consequences are tough for a woman, because
  the society and biology made it so, U POINT OUT THE MISTAKE ONLY ON WOMAN?
  
  What i say, mistake is on both. When something like this happens, dont just
  ridicule or put down ladies alone!
  
  Point out the mistake on both.....or still better...dont say anything at all.
  
  "oosi idam kodukkamal nool nuzaiyathu enbathu pazamozi. "<<<<<
  
  Cases of rape, is an exemption. Now how many of us, forgive the woman, who
  did not do ANY MISTAKE, and still is burdened with society's ridicule?
  
  This topic is very sensitive. lets plz stop it here.
  
  Sheik,
  
  I personally feel, any woman would say its a male dominated society.
  
  Economical freedom, domestic freedom, alone is not enough.
  
  In society's point of view, always, women are treated a step lower, if
  they commit any error morally.
  
  So on moral backgrounds it is a male dominated society, in any part of
  earth.
  
  This topic is sensitive, I do not wanna continue pls.
  
  
  
  Iyappan, Sheik, Flowerguy, and all,
  
  iyappan neenga mannippu ketka vendiya avasiyam illainu nenaikkiren. <<<<<<<<<
  
  NO!
  
  Why should he?
  I did not ask for any sorry!
  
  It is his views, which I feel is wrong.
  I am upset with his views, not him.
  I personally feel he is a wonderful guy.
  
  I am arguing with iyappan, based on only his views.
  Iyappan as a person is always my friend.
  
  thx
  
  :)
  shakthi.
  
  
• From: iyappan (@ lan-202-144-73-10.maa.sify.net) on: Mon Aug 5 00:49:13
  
  Thanks Sheik and Thanks Shakthi..
  
  to all
  Let us not continue this topic further Pleae.
  Iyappan
  
  
• From: FlowerGuy (@ 202.95.127.5) on: Sun Aug 11 02:14:34
  
  Iyappan,Shakthi,..adhiga urimaiyudan thavaraaga ethaavathu pesiyirundhaal...ennai mannikavum.
  
  Sheik..thanks for finding time and throwing your thoughts in this thread.
  
  
  
• From: veera (@ dialpool-210-214-6-75.maa.sify.net) on: Wed Dec 24 00:58:06
  
  very nice veera
  
  
• From: sarathi (@ 202.88.172.99) on: Wed Dec 24 03:13:53 EST 2003
  
  really i can c some beauty finishing in thease lines,
  
  romba nalla varigal , excelent work ,
  romba azatham vendam
  
  superb
  
  sarathi
  
  
• From: ilakia (@ 203.106.188.53) on: Wed Dec 24 05:26:10 EST 2003
  
  good! keep writing.......natpudan
  
  

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