ithu niyaayamaa - 2 ( tamil in english)
Topic started by iyappan (@ 203.200.61.1) on Fri Apr 25 07:45:19 .
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karuNaikku Orvativam enRaal
kaakuththaa unai kaattituvar
tharumaththin Or vativam enRae
Uraar unai pOtrrituvar
unnai ethirththathillai unmael
Orpazi sonnathillai
enna ninaiththu ennai
kollath thuNinthu vanthaay?
peNmaanin kOrikkaiyaal
poymaanai thotarnthavanae
unpaziyO uyarnthirukka ingu
matrravarukkO niyaayam uraippaay?
thampi paziyuraiththaan thamaiyan enmeethu
nampi nee vanthaay saram thotukkavenmeethu
entha tharumamathu en vaarththi kaetkalai nee
unnil mutivetuththu kanaivituththaay enmeethu
ethir ninRu samar seythaal avarai
Ezulakam vaazththi niRkum - nee
maraththin pin maRainthaalum ayyaa
maRai unnai pOtrruvathaen
uLLukkuL payamaa en valimai kandunakku
pOr enavanthaal naan saraNataiya thuNivaenO
oru thalai patsamaay mutivukaLai etuththu vittu
tharumaththin thalaivan ena vaazuvathum thakumO sol
Responses:
- From: Kajan (@ 24.103.235.73)
on: Sat Apr 26 02:35:23 EDT 2003
ithu niyaayamaa ? Meedum ippadi nadanthal ithu niyaayamaa ?
muthalil Pagam 1 , eppa... Pagam erandu.
Erandumae erai'yakkuthu en nerathi
viduvaeno naan ?
Iyappan,
Silla sotkal ungalin adaiyaalankai Maari viddana!
ungal kavithai pattri,
ethu yarukku adi ? ( aetho ul'lunarvu )
Vaazhthukkal
- From: ec (@ bryant.rz-berlin.mpg.de)
on: Sun Apr 27 15:07:22 EDT 2003
paavam Raman, unga kaiyil agappattu muzhikkiRaar :-) nalla kavidhai Iyappan!
"maraththin pin maRainthaalum ayyaa
maRai unnai pOtrruvathaen"
- nyayamaana kELvi! Raaman-i eppa bathil solla vaikkappOReenga Iyappan?!
- From: iyappan (@ lan-202-144-73-10.maa.sify.net)
on: Mon Apr 28 12:59:58 EDT 2003
kaajan
nanRi. innum irukku kaajan.. moonRaam paagam... innoru kElvi kandippa raamanukku undu...
"ethu yarukku adi ? ( aetho ul'lunarvu ) "
saththiyamaaga ithu ilakkiya kannottathil eduththukondu ezuthiya kavithai avvalavu thaan.... :)
ec:
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pathil thEdikondu irukkirEn. periyavargaLidam kEttullEn ithE kElviyai avar koduththa pathilai padiththu mudiththu appuram iraamanidam kEtta kElvikku pathil ( mudinthaal) alikkiREn.
raamanai ippadi kElvigal kEttathaRku antha paramporul mannippaaraaga.
anbudan
iyappan
- From: Kajan (@ wc09.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Tue May 27 17:55:59 EDT 2003
ithu niyama ?
neega athika naadkal thondrathu iruppathu niyama ?
- From: flowerguy (@ 61.11.79.225)
on: Mon Jun 2 13:31:09 EDT 2003
padam muzhukka "oomaiyaaga" vandhuvittu, padam mudinthavudan
kadavulai pazhithapadi "pesum"
andha "vaali" movie character ninaivukku varugirathu.
ungal kavithaikkum..thiraipadathukkum sambantham illaiyendraalum yeno ninaivukku vanthathu.
Ramanidam....idhuve ungalin kadaisi kelviyaaga irukkattum iyappan.
kelvigal thodarndhaal....Ramanai naan pesa vaithuviduven :-)
athu sari...enna aachu iyappan? romba naala aalai kaanom?
udambu sariyillaiya? manasu sariyillaiya?
edhuvaaga irundhaalum sollungal..."forumhub"-il ilavasa sigichai alikka padum.
take care iyappan.
- From: iyappan (@ 203.200.61.1)
on: Mon Jun 9 22:39:22 EDT 2003
Kajan
Itho vandhuvittEN... koncha naal vElai kaaranamaaga vara iyalavillai avvlavE
nanRi
Dear malaravan...
sari raamnidam kadaiysi kadaisiyaa oru kElvi kEkkanum... athukkappurama vittudalaam... ( ada namma thaaththavai kElvi kEkkaama yaarai poi kEkkirathaam.... raaman namma thaaththaa illaiyaa athaan urimaiyOda kEttEn )
sar raamanai neenga pEsa vaingalEn... nalla kavithai ungalidam irunthu ethir parththu kondu irukkirEn raamanin pathilaay
koncha naal thalai maraivaai irunthathathukku kaaranam vElai athai thavira vERu ethuvum illai ... :)
anbudan
iyappan
- From: shanthi (@ cache2.lankacom.net)
on: Tue Jul 8 02:07:02 EDT 2003
hi iyappan ur kavithai superp
ramanidam neengal kelvi kettathu thappe illai
avar seithathu kuttrame
netrikan thirappinum kutram kutrame
bye
shanthi
- From: Shakthi (@ 203-195-199-244.now-india.net.in)
on: Tue Jul 8 05:50:10 EDT 2003
Ram is not GOD
he is just a greater version of a 'perfect MAN'
He had his flaws! Why blame him?
He just did what he wanted for his life.........
Dont we make mistakeS? WE make 100000000 mistakes more than him........poor RAM leave him alone
- From: Iyappan (@ 203.200.61.1)
on: Tue Jul 8 10:24:22 EDT 2003
shakthi,
ungal karuththinilirunthu maarupaduvathaRku mannikkavum
oru saatharana manidhanaaga irunthaalum intha seyal kuRRam thaan. Raaman oru saatharana manithan mattum alla oru naattin arasanudaiya magan kooda. appadi irukkaiyil tharma niyaayangal therinthu irukka vEndum. athu pogattum, ithE raamanallava ambin keez agappatta thEraiyai paarththu kanneer vittu azuthavan, ithE raaman allavaa inRu pOi naalai vaa ena thoothu anuppinavan, appothu iruntha tharumam intha idaththil engu pOnathu enbathu thaan kElvi. sila periyavargalin vilakkanggaL Oralavukku sari seythaalum ithu paRRi innum muzumaiyaaga purinthu kollaatha varai raaman en paarvaiyil thavarizaiththavan.
we make mistakes, which will not affect too many, when he makes mistakes, it will spoil his following generation, because he was such a perfect man. PPl shouldnt think when the greater version of perfect man himself did such a kind of mistake and why not we?? isnt it..
it is not blame on rama, i just wondering why did he do that. there might be some reason which we couldnt understand. till then this question will be remain in my mind.
anbudan
iyappan
- From: Iyappan (@ 203.200.61.1)
on: Wed Jul 9 01:33:23 EDT 2003
Shanti,
ungal karuththukku mikka nanRi. neengal padiththathil pidiththathu enRu ithai kuRippittu uLLIrgam.. mikka magizchchi.
vaazththunggal valarnthidavE
anbudan
iyappan
- From: flowerguy (@ 217.154.50.203)
on: Sat Jul 12 11:58:47 EDT 2003
azhagukkum,arivukkum,veerathukkum,....indraiya iLaiya thalaimuraikku irukkira ore role-model RAMAN mattume..
avaraiyaavadhu vittu vaiyungal...nanbargale..
iyappan, yaamarindha pulavargalil...Ramanai "thaathaa" konathil paartha ore kavi... neenga oruvar thaan Sir...
Ramanai "perusagal" list-il serthu ennai tension seyya vendaam please...
- From: Surathi (@ cache9-5.ruh.isu.net.sa)
on: Sun Jul 13 04:02:26 EDT 2003
eppa pArthalum kAdhal kAdhal-nnu kavidhai ezhuthum janangal (including me) mathiyilEy, oru AthmArthamAna thread.. in spite of the difficulties in transliteration!
iyappan, unga vayasu enna? eppadi ippadi oru gnAnam?
Leaving aside all your arguments, answer one simple question: Just consider sukrivan and vaali alone. The scale of dharm tilt in whose favour?
Rendu perumEy 100% nyAyavadhi illEy endru vaithu koLvOm. yAr pakkam adhigha nyAyam?
- From: surathi (@ cache8-5.ruh.isu.net.sa)
on: Sun Jul 13 04:04:03 EDT 2003
eppa pArthalum kAdhal kAdhal-nnu kavidhai ezhuthum janangal (including me) mathiyilEy, oru AthmArthamAna thread.. in spite of the difficulties in transliteration!
iyappan, unga vayasu enna? eppadi ippadi oru gnAnam?
Leaving aside all your arguments, answer one simple question: Just consider sukrivan and vaali alone. The scale of dharm tilt in whose favour?
Rendu perumEy 100% nyAyavadhi illEy endru vaithu koLvOm. yAr pakkam adhigha nyAyam?
- From: Iyappan (@ 203.200.61.1)
on: Mon Jul 14 14:45:00 EDT 2003
flowerguy
koncham poruththukkunga
itho innum koncham naalla raaman pathil solla poraar intha kElvikku :)
sarathi nanRi..
en vayasaa... 27 nadakkuthu ( oooduthu ).
sugrivanO vaaliyO enna seythaargal enbathu vEndam.... avargal utharana purushargalaaga maara villai... avargal edhu seythaalum athu paRRi makkal kavalai pattu irukka povathillai. but uthaarana purushan ena pORRapadum raaman... siru thavaru seythalum athu ven thaalil patta karuppu pulli pOl thaan.... but... all with reason... aduththu sila thinangalil ithu niyaayam thaannu ramarE sollappOraar ;)
anbudan
iyappan
- From: Kajan (@ 24.156.114.180)
on: Mon Jul 14 19:14:38 EDT 2003
Iyappan,
>en vayasaa... 27 nadakkuthu >
ada ennai vida vayasu kooda irukku ena ninaiththEn!!!!!!!
u don't notice what said, ur kavithaikku kavithai going very well, has passed one year.
padiththathu pidiththathu is good topic.
ur thoughts also good,
I need ur advice if u can,
when I read tamizh poem in English, i hardly get image of kavithai when i read first time. as I am lost and loose patience i stopped reading at midway.
what can I do to improve.
ah..don't tell me to read lot to make easier.
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