ISNT IT TIME FOR MAMMOOTTY TO PLAY HIS AGE ?
Topic started by sid (@ 203.200.157.116) on Sat Feb 28 04:23:33 EST 2004.
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Some 15 years back mammotty used to play aged charactes(fathers of teenaged kids,middle aged man etc movies like manivathur,padayottam etc etc).Over the years he has grown young and is shamelessly asking his producers to pair himself only with teenaged heroines.We are made to witness this shame him dancing with a girl of his daughters age .Isnt it real time for this great actor of malayalam to broaden his mind and start a new innings playing his age(Hes around 55)and playing father to prithvi,kunchacko etc.We will get much more sensible movies in malayalam then.Cmon Mammotty fans..please respond.Dont spare a chance to give me overdose of theris and kick me out of this forum.
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- From: shani (@ 202.88.240.12)
on: Mon Mar 1 09:45:31 EST 2004
Hello EO
nhan serious aayi chodhichathaaaaaaaa....
Wot r u doing???
Pinne nhan EO yude athrayum movies onnum kaanarilla.. Even though while watching movies ,I prefer on these types of Off-beat movies very much. As u told Nanda is one of my favourite film.. Same in the case of Hindi movies also...
Ajay devgan's Zakhm is my all time favourite..
And also Veerumandi..It is a treat to watch the realistic movies. It is the only reason,I feel something special in Mammooty also..My favourites include Vidheyan,Bhoothakkannadi(best movie according to me),Utharam like tht.........
I prefer on these types of movies. Anyway Bharathi yellam kurachu kaduppamayi poyi moneeeeeeee ;)
Ethu kondonnumalla nhan ninne budhi jeeviyennu vilichathu.. Nhan orikkal Malayal sahithyam threadil poyi..Pinne alpam politics threadilum..Avidellam EO undakum..Appol nhan oru dialogum adikkathe mungum ;).. Chummathenthina mandatharam parayunnathu?????????
- From: Aravind Kannankara (ATK) (@ 202.88.243.73)
on: Mon Mar 1 10:12:57 EST 2004
Dear evano–oruvan:
But that is precisely the point – that it is not going by numbers that I should be proved wrong! I would prefer to be proved wrong by rational arguments and unbiased views.
My motto is strictly Quality >>>>>>>>>>> Quantity. So prove me wrong quantitatively, and not using mere numbers!
Quoting you:
“Also, rn't u goin a bit biased when u say, u find lal so convincin beatin up the baddies in RP?”
See, EO, it is not the CONVICTION that rules… it is the beauty of his movements that I was stressing. No one is stooooooooopid enough to think the scene is real. It is just comfortable to a fan – and once you are comfortable, you begin to see the beauty. Am I getting too metaphorical?
No, I guess…
No, EO, Kalabhavan guys probably excel on stage. Period. But what is the taunt?
Aravind Kannankara (ATK)
- From: shani (@ 202.88.240.12)
on: Mon Mar 1 10:41:29 EST 2004
Hello AKT
I cant join with any of your Opinion man..
May be our tastes are different..
First of all you told Doing a comic role is the toughest test for a real actor
I cant join with your opinion in any way.. The reason is same tht EO is told...You just take the list of actors in Malayalm movies.. Most of them may be comedy actors....I had given you the reason in detail in my previous posting to u..
Then regarding the action scene in RP.. Frankly speaking,tht is the most blunder scene i flet in the movie..And i cant join with ur opinion in case of action movies also.. I am repeating Mammooty-Joshi, Mammooy-IV sasi team had given the best action films in the Malayalam film history.. By action u mean Jayan type of action??
If you are telling abt the movements in the stunt scene ,I am considering it as a minor factor in Malayalam cinema.. Eventhough checkout his stunts in Maruvathur kanavu,Hitler, Kottayam Kunhachan,Phantom Paily and all..Eventhough these types of comments i feel it as some thing funny,I am just answering for u..Tht's all....
I AM TELLING YOU THAT THESE ALL ARE NOT AT ALL THE LIMITATIONS OF MAMMOOTY..AND YOU PEOPLE CANT EVEN FIND WOT IS HIS MAIN LIMITATION..I WILL TELL YOU THAT..
THE MAIN LIMITATION I FOUND IN CASE OF MAMMOOTY IS THT HE IS VERY UNCONFORTABLE WITH THE HEROINES..AND IT IS VERY MUCH REFLECTED IN THE SONG SEQUENCES.. HE IS VERY POOR IN SONG SCENES..
- From: Sangeeth (@ cache2-2.ruh.isu.net.sa)
on: Mon Mar 1 10:48:18 EST 2004
AKT,
********Im not going in detail-just try to reply simply.actually I have no much time to even read all postings.I just quote ur comments again and clearing the misunderstanding only….
‘Who says that a comedy scene should be done with the two motives you specified – “make audience laugh and same time he has to be very near to the real life”? I feel the first part is enough by itself. The second need not apply….’
Nobody says like me.its me given the definition.As ur definition for acting it should like this.
*******‘And about “Maravathoor Kanavu”, I have said it at least three times TO YOU ALONE, and yet I will patiently say it again – it is a situational comedy movie – Mammootty is not the sole contributing factor to the comic element. So he can’t take ALL the credit. And even when I say it is a good movie, it is not a great COMEDY movie….though there definitely are humorous situations! I for one enjoyed all aspects of the film – not just comedy.’
So the definition for the comedy is simply what we are seeing some comedy movies.
So tell me who is better comedy actor,
Lal,Jayaram,Dilip,Indrans,Harisree Ashokan,Salim kumar,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?
*******’And tell me this. What is wrong with Priyadarshan and Lal’s work in the ‘90s that you keep referring to? Priyadarshan is a better copycat than an original artist, but the movies they teamed for were positively superb! I will quote a few – Chithram, Kilukkam, Mukundetta Sumithra Vilikkunnu, Vellanakalude Naadu, Vandanam, Midhunam, Thenmaavinkombathu, etc. I have excluded the slapstick comedy movies…’
I just mentioned what lal-priyadarshan contribute to malayalm movie in the category of comedy movie.
So my question again – if the film is super hit that means, all the artist did well in their area…do u mean it?
******Don’t be biased without a reason – these movies epitomize every Malayalee’s idea of good humour. If you fail to perceive this, this is probably because you are too much mired in this childish ML vs. MY stuff propagated by some idiotic imbeciles on this forum. Give each actor credit for what he does best. And the range that he truthfully possesses. Not what a passionate fan’s clamored senses tell him/her…
Hay,u again misunderstanding me…….i never try to say that Lal is bad in comedy.i told u about both type of comedy-situational comedy and action comedy.
*******In the first sentence you talk about “real” comedy. This is purely a relative and arbitrary word in the context. It implies that there is something you (and possibly, nay, even probably nobody else) regard as real comedy, and that your favorite actor epitomizes it! Hah! Talk about prejudice… Or at least kindly explain!
yes what I mean mammootty did only situational comedy, he was refused (or if u want u can say he cant) to do action comedy, what actually I mean, lal did with priyadarshan which is fully out of reality.
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****You are again slipping into the same track. Image is something a STAR has, not an actor. I mean where does this concept come in when we are seriously considering ACTING as a fine art, and discussing it’s nuances? So what the heck if MY’s fans see him differently? Is he going to cater to something so abysmally petite as IMAGE? After all this is something that can change with time, and hence is purely a variable factor! I don’t think even MY himself would make such a statement!!!
actually u were start to say about weakness of mammootty and then u suddenly mention about Lal’s performance in padamudra – about performance in Padamudra which is not actually come in any of category of Action or comedyam-am I right-so who actually slipping into out of track.
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And if a person who does comedy on screen is a buffoon, then an on–screen rapist should be sent to jail and an on–screen murderer should be hung by law! What a derogatory remark!
HA this time im saying to you, Come on Aravind – grow up!
The hero who killing the villain is always become the hero of audience.But what is fate of comedian.Hah, just what all saying about Dilip-I just repeat it.Can u rate Dilip’s comedy to high level talent!
*******So, this part clear, we proceed – if all action scene is camera tricks, then the playing field is level for ALL actors. Why is it that MY does not have this “ease of motion”? Tell me Tell me Tell me Tell me Tell me Tell me Tell me Tell me!!
So u think Lal is real actor,so that mammootty should imitate it.then we can see many talented actors in the mimicry troop!
That’s all dear Aravind
- From: Aravind Kannankara (ATK) (@ 202.88.243.73)
on: Mon Mar 1 11:26:21 EST 2004
Dear Shani:
Instead of repeating "I cant join with your opinion in any way" over and over, may be you should give me rational reasons... And not the type you gave in the earlier postings - I want GOOD arguments.
And I don't think your finding is true - MY is not uncomfortable with his heroines. If the song sequences turn into nightmare, it is probably coz he can't dance.
Aravind Kannankara (ATK)
- From: Aravind Kannankara (ATK) (@ 202.88.243.73)
on: Mon Mar 1 11:32:33 EST 2004
Dear Sangeeth:
Guess you are pressed for time afterall! Bcoz your arguments seem to lack logic and appear jumbled.
Seeya later when you have more time...
Aravind Kannankara )ATK_
- From: Sangeeth (@ cache9-5.ruh.isu.net.sa)
on: Mon Mar 1 11:55:53 EST 2004
AKT
No logic in my Arguements, hay dont say like that. I just reply ur quotes...Ok.
- From: shani (@ 202.88.240.12)
on: Tue Mar 2 00:29:54 EST 2004
Hello AKT
I cant get u man.....
Ur taste is totally differnet from me...
You enjoy slapstick comedy and for u comedians are the greatest artists.. For me just opposite to tht.. I enjoy situational comedies and for me doing crap comedy is nothing(the success of CID moosa is an example). And I evaluate an actoe according to his talent in doing more powerful roles..
Again I will not take care abt the movements and all in the fighting scenes.. I just need a good script and power-packed dialogues and totally a mood of violence..Tht's all.. For seeing the fighting scenes of ur taste I will watch Bollywood or Hollywood movies,where the movements and all matters..
And the funny thing is tht while fighting and Dancing, the steps and actions of Mohanlal will be same.. Dont u feel very boring when a bulky man doing like tht..The only fighting scene ,I found very excellent in Mohanlal film was in Yodha.. In tht he was superb...
- From: shani (@ 202.88.240.12)
on: Tue Mar 2 00:33:38 EST 2004
Hello AKT
Can u tell me Wot all are the limitation of Mohanlal??????????????
- From: Aravind Kannankara (ATK) (@ 202.88.243.73)
on: Tue Mar 2 09:41:41 EST 2004
Hmmmmm
Innu njaan verry fitt! I am on a binge-drinking bout....
Naale reply tharaam - I'll probably start a new thread - it is an interesting topic
Thanks - and Cheers!
- From: mff (@ 132.170.140.164)
on: Fri Mar 5 02:25:56 EST 2004
Sethuramaiyer CBI has released in chennai in movie list it is given as Tamil.. I think it is a mistake , have they dubbed?? .. i hope it is the malayalam version that has released in Chennai - Shantham 4 shows.. Guys from chennai , EO please clarify this.
- From: evano-oruvan (@ 198.23.26.253)
on: Tue Mar 9 00:59:53 EST 2004
mff,
this one's the original.. not the dubbed one.. but, they r promotin it as if this one's a tamil movie.. :)
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