Topic started by Snehithan (@ cache2-2.ruh.isu.net.sa) on Tue Apr 9 10:15:40 .
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I think Mammooty is the best dialog presenter that Mallus ever seen. Lal and Suresh Gopi still have to study many things from him for their improvement.
Sukumaran is the next to him in nice dialog presentation.

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• From: Snehithan (@ cache1-2.ruh.isu.net.sa) on: Sat Apr 13 10:55:00
  
  Sree
  By ascend I mean the ascend and descend of his dialog.
  What is the meaning of Napumsakam, Non-among two but belong some thing of both. I just meant that only. And in Philipines the letter that they are using is not English letters that is the letter of their language. So if it writes KAMUSTHA KA (that means how are you in their language) in their mother tongue any body can pronounce as they can. But while pronouncing the names of our Indian players English people are really mispronounced. Why? We have separate letters so we can’t write all our words in English and it makes me really boring. So I mentioned it. For my name I don’t have any other choice so I write it in Manglish.
  >>>Mammukka is an actor of India, he has made his own stardom and above all he is a malayalee and we should be proud of him. Athu kondu mammootti yude enthenkilum poraymakal nammal vimarsichal athu vaayichu annan maarum, bhaiya maarum chirikkenda….<<<
  ith oru Indian film discussion forum anu. Malyalikalk mathramullathallaa. Appol nammal ezhuthunnathu ariyuvan theercha yayum annan markum bhaiya markum avakasham undu. Pinne nadan marodu athra snehavum athu pole vimarshanathey vimarshikkukayum cheyyunna thangal enthinanu ithil ezhuthunnathu. Malyalathil ezhuthiyal malyalikalenkilum chirikkumallo. Theeray ezhuthathirunnal aarum chirikkillallo.
  
  >>>I will agree with you on loudness, clarity, voice, voice control, lip movements’ etc. but on pitch and tone I can’t come with you, others are better.<<<
  My friend I don’t have any machine to find out whose pitch is better or whose tone is better. So about me I could see perfection in his presentation. If you say his dialog is the worst or some other is better than him you can move ahead with that.
  
  >>>>Dada sahib, 1921, cbi diary kurippu okke ororo prathyeka vibhagathil pedunna characters alle? Pinne slang ! that does not mean much in determining quality of dialogue delivery of an actor. Nammude pathrangalum, Goverenment um, Cinema yum, Sahithyavaum, Gaana saakha yum, mattu visual, audio media kal ellam thanne Madhya Thiruvithamkoor (manily Kottayam Jilla, athayathu Achadi Bhasha) bhasha aanu follow cheyyunnathu… bakki pinne…<<<<
  
  Slang is the one of the main challenge in dialog presentation. It is very difficult to present dialogs in different slang. If you couldn’t see any thing in it for the determination of the quality of dialog I don’t have say any thing to you. If a singer can sing only late music and another one can sing all type of music in any taste and any style will you say almost all songs are late music so the diversity is nothing. If you are saying like this here also I have nothing to say.
  
  
• From: sree (@ 62.3.1.114) on: Sun Apr 14 01:27:20
  
  murali was a supporting charactor so he could score the award for supporting actor, if he was in leading role he might score the best actor award. that is what i said. forget it. just for example: please watch out the dialogue delivery of mammootti in inspector balram climax scene and the drunken scene in Kottayam Kunjachan, challenging Sukumaran at his house. i dont want to write more examples. btw, what is LATE music. in fact, i dont want to make others harmful by commenting my op.
  
  ee slang ennu parayunnathu entha mashe....trivandrum kaar parayunna vellangal, entharappee, thrissur kaarude enthada kannaleee, mukkuvarude kadaappuram, makaaale, namboothirimaarude, scheyy kashtayee, siva siva okke alle?
  
  
• From: Snehithan (@ cache1-2.ruh.isu.net.sa) on: Sun Apr 14 03:19:14
  
  Sree
  About Kerala film award every body know. When Mammooty got National award he didn't get state award for that year. I think this is sufficient reply for your award arguments.
  The dialog in climax of Inspector Balram was used even in the advertisement of that film. If you feel any mistake in it then who is wrong here you or the whole malyalees who made the film a super hit?
  I told you already I don't have any machine to show you the quality of a dialog. We can check together all the dialogs in malayalam if such a machine is invented.
  About slang now you think it is nothing. Just imagine any actor other than Mammooty in the roll of Dada Sahib, CBI, Vidheyan,etc. Who can perform like him? Who can maintain such diversity and originality?
  If you still think it is very easy to use slang you just read the comment that you have made before. I here quote it for you.
  >>>amarathil mammootti yude slang nekkal thadhatmyam prapichathu murali yude slang alle? athu kondalle amarathile state award muralikku kittiyathum, mammoottikku kittathe poyathum..<<<
  thangal ippozhum ivide thanney yund alley? kochu kallan! njan vicharichu thangaludey mudinja bhasha sneham karanam ividey ninnum poyittundakum ennu.
  
  
• From: sreekrishnan (@ 62.3.1.114) on: Sun Apr 14 04:39:35
  
  OH ! thankal aa pazhaya mammootti fan aalu thanne? nerathe paranjirunnenkil ithrayum ezhuthi menakkedenda aavasyam illayirunnallo? ellam vittukala.... ellam paranju "compliments" aakkam........bhagyam kondum, sabdham kondum, aakara saushtavum kondum palarum rekshpedarundu.. enikku kooduthal onnum parayuvan illa varatte...
  
  
• From: Snehithan (@ cache1-2.ruh.isu.net.sa) on: Sun Apr 14 05:10:01
  
  sreekrishnan alias sree
  THANK U VERY MUCH! But undrestand one thing I am not a fan of any body! In another thread I mentioned my veiw about film actors ie "Dirty people doing dirty things for money". But I do atleast admit any body who have talent in any thing. That is all.
  
  
• From: sree (@ 62.3.1.114) on: Sun Apr 14 06:08:48
  
  oh , bus ithuvare vannilla...
  
  It’s obviously explicable from each of your lines whether you are a fan or not. Your opinion on actors that “dirty people are doing dirty things” does not make any sense to me. As a spectator I would say that they are not dirty people and they are not doing any dirty things. I do admit mammootti’s physique, voice, dubbing, clarity, thunderness, acting etc. etc. however I cant say that mammukka aanu malayalathile ettavum nalla nadan ennum addheham aanu ettavum nannayi dialogue present cheyuunnathu ennum.. athu nammal manasil aakkunnathinte ettakkurachil kondanu…. Mammootti yekkal valare nannyi sabdha gambheeryathil dialogue present cheyyunna orale maathram paranju kondu ivide avasanippikkunnu… aa oral thilakan thanne aanu. Ennu vicharichu mammootti theere mosam aanu ennum njan oridathum paranjittilla, parimithikal undu ennu maathram. anyway thanx for everything,.
  
  
• From: Snehithan (@ cache1-2.ruh.isu.net.sa) on: Sun Apr 14 06:40:03
  
  Sree
  It may be Thilakan the best dialog presenter for you but in my view it is Mammooty, the reasons I already explined to you.
  And about another my openion ie dirty peope.... I already made a long fight about that subject. I wouldn't like to get bore the forum hubbers again. If you would like to see my comments just see the thread "WHY DO PEOPLE HATE MY CHOCKOCHAN". Then it will be apparent for you that I can't be a fan of any actor. Then OK! Bye Bye!
  
  
• From: «« [ kizhavan ] »» (@ soochak.ishoni.co.in) on: Mon Apr 15 06:37:31
  
  " sabdha gambheeryathe maathram vechu dialogue inte quality nirnayichal sheriyavilla " -- sree
  
  Athe. athu patilla. allaayirunnenkil Biju Menon-nte peru ivide aalukal paranjenemallo. He has real good sabda gaambheeryam. but athu engane use cheyyanam ennu angerkku nallavannam arinju koodaa. athaanu saadhaarana sabda gambheeryavum mammotty-de sabda gaambheeryavum thammilulla vyathyaasam.
  
  pinne, mammootty-de aarohana avarohanangalkku evideyaanu kuzhappam, sree.?
  
  
• From: sree (@ 62.3.1.114) on: Mon Apr 15 09:18:17
  
  murali and kpac lalitha was supporting charactors and mammootti was in leading role in amaram. both murali & lalitha won the awards in amaram while mammootti cannot score any award.
  
  few examples: please watch out the dialogue delivery of mammootti in inspector balram climax scene with kiran kumar and the drunken scene in Kottayam Kunjachan, challenging Sukumaran at his house. ini Sandharbham enna padam onnu kandu nokku...ithu pole vere ethra ennam venam enkilum tharaam.
  
  njan onnu koodi thelichu parayam.. addheham oru above average dialogue presenter thanne aanu, njan sammadhikkunnu.. vv gadha yilum, avanazhi yilum, nair saab ilum, new delhi yilum, okke valare ugran performance thanne aanu... mattu palathilum just average ennu parayane enikkavoo....kaaranam oru dialogue inte perfection ennu parayunnathu athinte extreme tone, sound control, mouth movements ennathanu… athil aparyapthatha kaananam enkil athrayum aazhathil aa kala ye kurichu arinjirikkanam, oru sadharana prekshakanu mammoootti dharalam mathi…. Njan oru asaadharana prekshakan aanu ennu parayukayalla… ee prayathil thanne thilakan rajan p dev jose pellisseri thudangiyavare polullavarude directionil oru 250 professional drama stage il enkilum kalichittullathu kondum, njan parayunnu enneyullu…
  
  pinne oru 17-18 years old vare njanum mammootti aanu nallathu ellam kondum ennu karuthi irunnavan thanne aanu… pakshe athu kazhinju athe kurichu kooduthal aayi padikkuvan avasaram labhichappol, athu enthanu ennu thottariyuvan kazhinjappol maathramanu enikku thiricharivundayathu…. Athu kondu enikku angene ulkollan kazhiyilla…. (exclusively it is for kizhavan) frankly speaking, mammootti yekkal better aayi dialogue athinte bhavangalodeyum, thalathiloodeyum present cheyyunna palarum nammude munnil undu… oru vivadathinu vendi ezhuthiyathalla, ini ee thread il njan ezhuthunnum illa. Pore?
  
  
• From: Snehithan (@ cache5-0.ruh.isu.net.sa) on: Tue Apr 16 07:32:53
  
  You are still saying about the award of Amaram. Mammooty did't get award in Amaram but he did't get award in Vadakkan Veeragadha also. You also agree his performance was superb in V.V not only you but National Film award commettee also agree. So it is clear our award commettee is some thing abnormal. And KPAC her self said in the set of Amaram Mammooty helped her for the presentation of dialogs. One more thing Fazil said when he thinks about Mammooty’s best characters it is Amaram and Hitler comes first in his mind.
  You said if Murali has done the leading role he would get the award. I can’t see any logic in your that statement. Because I can say if Mammooty has done the supporting role he would get award.
  One of the most fames Dubbing artist of malaylam movie Shammi Thilakan, who must have more awareness about art of dialogs. But his father Thilakan said Shammi is imitating mammooty. He will not imitate if he didn’t see any thing outstanding in his dialogs.
  Thangale pole 250 professional natakthil kalichittulla varudeyum oru natakam polum kanditillatha enney pole ullavarudeyum aswadana nilavarathil vythasa mundakaam. Pakshe malyala sahithyathile kulapathiyum malyala cinemakku karyamaya sambhavana nalkiyittulla MT polum Mammootiye kurichu paranjathu malyalikaludey swakarya ahankaram ennanu. Athu pole Derik Malkam paranjathu abhinayathintey ooshmalatha ennanum appol avarudeyum aswadana nilavaram thankalekkal thazhey thanneyanoo.
  
  I think you sent your last message exclusively for kizhavan. I am really sorry to make reply.
  
  
• From: sami (@ ) on: Tue Jun 25 08:54:07
  
  Mammooty and Thilakan are best in dialogue presentation.
  
  

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