Topic started by BabuRasheed (@ nc1.qatar.net.qa) on Tue Apr 20 14:17:30 EDT 2004.
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Mammotty still attract the large crowd in India because he is the best actor everseen by Indian Screen.
1. He keeps his figure perfect still in this age.
2. mohanlal lost his figure, and acting capabability
3. if Vismayathumbathu is successful, credit goest to Fazil, Mukesh and Nayanthara
4. Vajram is more successful than Vismayathumbathu eventhough story and direction was not that much good as Vismayathumbathu, credit for Vajram goes only to MAMMOTTY.
5. When mammotty was the Secretary of Amma, there was smooth relationship with all other sectors from Film Industry, but Mohanlal is not suitable for any position like it
6. Mohanlal was fit for the characters like Jagathy sreekumar before ,but now his comedey role also boring.
7. Mammootty is everlasting hero
8.Mamootty can take any role, Police, Collector, Rowdy, poorman, antihero, father, oldman, commonman, supernatural charactor etc.
9. He has proven as most successful actor both in Commercial and Arts film alike.

Don't argue any more
Please accept it.
No need of comments from Mohanlal fans.

Responses:

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• From: Thamizhan (@ cache-mtc-ae09.proxy.aol.com) on: Sun May 9 19:45:27 EDT 2004
  
  Mammooty ninde ammayude pooru
  
  
• From: Annachi (@ 195.229.241.180) on: Mon May 10 01:20:59 EDT 2004
  
  Lale ninte ammayude vatta ppooru
  
  
• From: NiC (@ 213.42.2.29) on: Mon May 10 03:11:56 EDT 2004
  
  eo,
  suryamanasam okke bore film.....pottan maarku thanne nanakeeda.....we didnt putturumeese....we dont want see him again......
  eo u r email id...pls
  
  
• From: evano-oruvan (@ 61.247.254.42) on: Tue May 11 01:47:40 EDT 2004
  
  NiC,
  
  vkattabomman@yahoo.com
  
  hari,
  
  i guess.. i disagree with u on finer nuances of acting. alright.. 2 put it honestly, i may not b able 2 judge on the finer nuances.. bcos, i rather look @ the way the character was portrayed, and how consistently one pulls it off thru-out the movie..
  
  the neelakandan u were referring 2 waz a gr8 portrayal. lal portrayed it with appropriate mannerisms. and this is what makes his performance largely situation based. i think that's what enables u 2 observe these finer nuances from his characters.
  
  but, look @ the way mammootty portrays a character. it's not with the help of mannerisms or body language, but with expressions. that's what i call a more successful character portrayal.
  
  when a belram comes on screen, his eyes and his expressions convey more than his gestures. and the way the person open his mouth abruptly makes u judge his charactr attributes. but, neelakandan comes with the expressions not significantly varying from an normal guy, and with mannerism and gestures of a rogue.
  
  and coming a defensive stand..
  
  rgding ur observation abt thinkalazhcha nalla divasam, i wud extend it 2 sukritham as well.. mammootty's character in thinkalazhcha nalal divasam was a totally pragmatic character. it was one of the most realistic commercial movie "atleast partially" in mallu. thatz largely bcos, he looks the ay he looks. if he enacted the characters with melancholy and confusion i bet, it wud just look another plain melodramatic stuff. also, if sukritham is worth a repeat view, it's mainly bcos, he didn't convey a depressed portrayal of ravishankar. otherwise, it wud have ended up in another stereotypical character.
  
  coming 2 a more offensive stand.. ur comments abt lal's character in bharatham is appreciated. but, how do u suggest that character in adimakal udamakal shud have portrayed. it was the same non-confident, vulnerable look the character conveyed in adimakal udamakal too.
  
  and consistency is another important aspect in a character portrayal. consider thsi aspect with the characters u've mentioned in aham, rajashilpi, and kamaladalam. imagine when nandagopan burst out "chapalyam" b4 monisha, when she reveals her feelings 2wards him. i thought that was totally inconsistent with the character nuances u were mentioning abt.
  
  and, i guess the comments abt "company" may not b really justifiable, bcos, i wud give the credits partially 2 ramgopal verma, just like u wanted me 2 share the credits of achootti with bharathan.
  
  just think abt the combination sequence bet'n ajay, vivek and lal in that police station..
  
  "kyon?"
  "kyon.. matlab?"
  "aapse poocha"
  "jis se bhi poochega jawab to yahee dega"
  
  i thought the 90% credit goes 2 the director..
  
  alright.. coming back 2 finer nuances, i wonder how u missed an instance in manichithrathazhu.. where lal looks 4 shobhana, and suresh gopi asks him where she is.. he says.. "vaa, nokkam".. without a sound coming out.. that i think was one of the most brilliant moment in lal's whole career..
  
  just giving the credits where itz DUE... :)
  
  
• From: KADHALAN (@ 193.188.97.151) on: Tue May 11 02:30:44 EDT 2004
  
  BOLO THE MEGA-SUPERSTAR KI JAI!!!!!
  
  BOLO THE GREATEST KI JAI!!!!
  
  BOLO THE NUMBER 1 ACTOR KI JAI!!!!!
  
  BOLO MAMMOOKKA KI JAI!!!!!!!
  
  
• From: mm (@ 82.205.139.230) on: Tue May 11 03:11:43 EDT 2004
  
  """i may not b able 2 judge on the finer nuances""
  
  eo, nuance inte malayalam word enthuvanu?
  
  """but, look @ the way mammootty portrays a character. it's not with the help of mannerisms or body language, but with expressions"""""
  
  valathu kaal side ilottu cherichu vechu , kone kone ennu nadakkunnathum, kazhuthu neetti nerves valichu dialogue parayunnathum, valam kai kondu nilathinittu kuthi mannilakkunnathum....….. neettunnilla eo..
  
  aa mukhathu enthokke rasangal aano viriyunnathu ennu ezhuthi oru board kazhuthil ittal nallathanu...
  
  Erotic, Peaceful, Humorous, Terrible, Pathetic, , Heroic, Fearful, Wonderous, Odious, ennee nava rasangalum angu kathi nilkkuka alle?
  
  Ennal itha pidicho chila eg:
  
  Erotic (paadamudra, anuragi)
  Peaceful (vaanaprastham)
  Humourous (thenmavin kompathu)
  Terrible (Spatikam)
  Pathetic (bharatham)
  Heroic (aaraam thampuran)
  Fearful (Sadayam)
  Wonderous (Vishnulokam)
  Odious (Manjil Virinja Pookal)
  
  Oro chithrangal mathram ezhuthi enneyullu…
  
  Matte mahaante oru 9 chithram ithu pole onnu paranje mashe…
  
  lal was performed extra ordinarily in company as a south indian police officer. but his physique was not suitable at that time..
  
  
• From: evano-oruvan (@ 61.247.254.42) on: Tue May 11 03:59:34 EDT 2004
  
  Erotic (paadamudra, anuragi)
  Peaceful (vaanaprastham)
  Humourous (thenmavin kompathu)
  Terrible (Spatikam)
  Pathetic (bharatham)
  Heroic (aaraam thampuran)
  Fearful (Sadayam)
  Wonderous (Vishnulokam)
  Odious (Manjil Virinja Pookal)
  
  thenmavin kombathile humorous, fearful sadayam and wonderous vishnulokam, odious manjil virinja pookkal okke aalochichu ezhuthiyathano?
  
  
• From: evano-oruvan (@ 61.247.254.42) on: Tue May 11 04:06:48 EDT 2004
  
  ethayalum ithupolonnu njanum ezhuthi nokkam.. mm, i shud tell u that i am indulgin in a childish exercise though.. :)
  
  bheebhalsam - vidheyan
  bhayanakam - ponthanmada
  karunam - anubandham
  shantham - kauravar
  sringaram - mathilukal
  vismayam - utharam
  veeram - veeragatha
  hasyam - kottayam kunjachan
  roudram - 1921
  
  
• From: nmkk (@ 82.145.193.13) on: Tue May 11 04:42:09 EDT 2004
  
  MOHANLAL NO1 STAR IN INDIA
  
  MOHANLAL still attract the large crowd in India because he is the best actor everseen by Indian Screen.
  1. He keeps his figure perfect still in this age.
  2.Mammootty lost his figure, and acting capabability
  3. if Vismayathumbathu is successful, credit goest to MOHANLAL.
  4. Vajram also successful eventhough story and direction was not that much good as Vismayathumbathu, credit for Vajram goes only to Director n script writer.
  
  5. MOHANLAL is everlasting hero
  6.MOHANLAL can take any role, Police, Collector, Rowdy, poorman, antihero, father, oldman, commonman, supernatural charactor etc.
  7. He has proven as most successful actor both in Commercial and Arts film alike.
  
  Don't argue any more
  Please accept it.
  No need of comments from mammu,s fans.
  
  
  
• From: Inspector Balram (@ 195.229.241.186) on: Tue May 11 06:24:23 EDT 2004
  
  nmkk (naanavum maanavum ketta kalla)
  
  Mammooty is No.1 star in India. Lal is turning to business because his film gets less collection than jayasurya
  
  
• From: mm (@ 82.205.139.230) on: Tue May 11 06:48:58 EDT 2004
  
  i balram, thanakale pole ullavaranu ente sakthi
  
  
  mammutti.....
  
  
• From: hari (@ 203.94.218.19) on: Tue May 11 10:11:00 EDT 2004
  
  eo,
  as i had mentioned earlier,we have comp. differnt views abt wot stimulates us to believe wot is an efficient "character protrayal".
  ok in your view expressions stand much higher than nuances but 1 thing that u must remember is that at the end of the day wot we r discussing is wot is a "great character presentation?".
  when u r talking abt nuances 1 thing that u shud take into considearation is that any nuances r justified only if the basic character protrayal is good.nuances just add onto a character presentation.if i felt that lal has displayed tremendous grasp over subtle nuances,it is taken for granted that he has protrayed the character efficiently and those nuances r just an indication of his astute interpretation of a character.
  i strongly believe that acting is a process in which an actor coverses on 2 differnt levels:
  1)he converses with the audience.
  2)he establishes a conversation with himself.
  its through the second process of conversation that i believe an actor dilutes the effect of a camera catching his protrayal.and i have through many instances come to believe that lal is brilliant in the second aspect.
  if his protrayals in recent times have given rise to gargantum expressions its cos he has in recent times tried to converse more with the audience.
  also when mammmo plays a "balaram" or a "varunni" or "mada" he automatically thru the selection of those roles gets himself into a position where he plays a character that deviates from the normal..and even a process of direct communication with the audience aids the strength of his performances.and when u say lal plays a character close to normal person,dont u think he runs a risk of being caught if he protrays it in a flawed manner??cos an audience wud know when he is not natural,cos hes playing 1 among them.and the fact that hes pulled of such characters with amazing grace is a proof of his natural acting ability?i think so....
  and i dont know wot do u mean by a performance thats not situation-based.every performance shud be situation-based cos if it is not,then u r seeing an actor and not a character.
  regarding the comparison of "amaram" and "comapany" scenes. i dont understand how u dont see this. that scene that u talked abt is completely framed scene.even if mammo hadnt played the character that scene wud have been there.on the other hand when lal observes ajay devgan thru the gaps that separate the glass frames, dont u see that its not a scene in itself.its a process in between the communication that takes place and that expression is a reaction that emanates during the conversation.
  also the scene in manichitrathazhu "vaa nokkam"(belive it or not i was gonna mention that in my previous post)that is part of the characters frustration.fazil cudnt have directed that expression from lal.on the other hand there r many instances within that movie(twitching of his fingers)where i can see fazil's contribution towards the character development.also in "naadodikattu" thers a scene where he goes with the milk to the milk-dealer and u observe the way he says "oruuuuuu 100 rupa".that oruu is said longer than the normal way.its just a way to render more naturality to the scene.
  
  
• From: LGK (@ ) on: Mon May 24 04:34:35
  
  Mohanlal is a good actor but I think Mammootty is more classic in acting.
  When Mammooty acts the charector projects first but that is not the case in most of lal's movies.Lal is still not escaped from his usual mannerism and style.
  Mammooty excels in dialogues in any language and slangs.
  Mammootty is better actor than Mohanlal.
  Mammooty keeps better shape
  Mohanlal physique looks like Paravoor Bharathan.
  (Imagine Mohanlal in a swimming suit)
  
  
• From: LGK (@ ) on: Mon May 24 04:34:41
  
  Mohanlal is a good actor but I think Mammootty is more classic in acting.
  When Mammooty acts the charector projects first but that is not the case in most of lal's movies.Lal is still not escaped from his usual mannerism and style.
  Mammooty excels in dialogues in any language and slangs.
  Mammootty is better actor than Mohanlal.
  Mammooty keeps better shape
  Mohanlal physique looks like Paravoor Bharathan.
  (Imagine Mohanlal in a swimming suit)
  
  

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