Topic started by Nadopasaka (@ aippp30.buffnet.net) on Tue Mar 14 19:16:50 .
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Who are these 'unsung' accompanying artistes ? What ragas and/or krities typically appear ? Is the 'javali' or padam favored etc.

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• From: Nadopasaka (@ ahppp24.buffnet.net) on: Sat Mar 18 19:18:38 EST 2000
  
  It will be very useful to get some meanings of the lyrics of these jaavali constructions. Is there double-entendre , coyness etc. ? Anyone with any suggestions ? Thanks
  
  
• From: IR (@ dialup-209.244.121.249.boston1.level3.net) on: Sun Mar 19 06:24:47 EST 2000
  
  >>>" meanings of the lyrics"<<< :::)) Nado
  
  
• From: Nadopasaka (@ aeppp8.buffnet.net) on: Sun Mar 19 09:38:51 EST 2000
  
  touche , IR ! I heard a rousing Cheli Nenetlu by DKJ. I have no idea what is being said :(
  
  
• From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp4.buffnet.net) on: Sun Mar 19 15:55:05 EST 2000
  
  The fine 'Nanu Brovamani cheppave' of BhadrachalaRamdas supposed to be in Kalyani ( also sung unfortunately in Begada by, who else, BMK ) has a phrase 'Ekaantamaina Eka-shayyanundati vela'. I managed to translate this roughly as 'Sita! whisper my name to Him in His immense solitude and when He lays Himself next to You !" ( maybe wrong )
  
  Ramdas' incarceration certainly stimulated a brilliant imagination and his hormones. Of course none of his krities are treated as padams or jaavalis. Is this example relatively 'tame' compared to the theme of a majority of the 'jaavalis' ?
  
  
• From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp45.buffnet.net) on: Wed Mar 22 17:09:28 EST 2000
  
  So , any takers on this Cheli Nenetlu lyric ??
  
  
• From: RAM (@ ) on: Thu May 25 11:22:18
  
  
  Hi
  
  I think "Alar Sara Parithapam" in Raga Surutti, by
  
  Maharaja Swathithrunal" is a padam.
  
  
  RAM
  
  
• From: nick (@ host.sumitomomarine.co.uk) on: Tue Jun 13 12:18:51 EDT 2000
  
  I have just read through this thread and remembered that I have a cassette of Padams and Javalis by R Vedavali. I've never much listened to it, so I shall go home and do so at once!
  What a shame I won't understand any of the words.
  
  
• From: Nadopasaka (@ ahppp8.buffnet.net) on: Tue Jun 13 13:09:01 EDT 2000
  
  The language of seduction may be universal, Nick. If there is an inlay card that is understandable please post the details.
  
  
• From: revive (@ netapps2.krdl.org.sg) on: Wed Oct 4 22:40:41 EDT 2000
  
  
  
  
• From: anjum (@ ) on: Mon Oct 21 09:19:36
  
  hello pals,
  
  is there any book which deals with J & P and thier transliteration n translation?? if so plz do tell me .
  
  bye n take care
  
  
• From: DILLOO S .K. (@ ) on: Thu Jan 30 00:46:14
  
  dear sirs
  i would like to get the lyrics and its meaning in english for the javali composed by Pattabhiramayya ni matale mayanura in rag poorvi kalyani set to adi tal
  kindly do the need ful
  send the same to my mail id
  regards
  dilloo
  
  
• From: pradeep (@ ppp-219.65.104.56.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Wed May 7 13:27:23
  
  what a fascinating thread. I live in Madras and am fortunate to learn music from T Brinda(the acknowledged Master/Mistress of Padams) Girish hasnr got around to teach them yet but I have listened to Ososi in Mukhari and Ninnujuchi(Punnagavarali), my 2 favourites so often that I know most of them I would love to listen to more, any one in Madras who can help? The Sampradaya archives has a good selection in Madras and charge Rs.5 to listen to any number of tapes per day.
  
  In Javali's, those written on Girish's Great-Great Granny Veena Dhanambal - smara Sundaram and Sakhiprana are super!
  
  regards
  Pradeep
  
  
  
• From: pradeep (@ ppp-219.65.104.56.chn.vsnl.net.in) on: Wed May 7 13:29:02 EDT 2003
  
  oops! Girish is T Brinda's grandson!!
  
  
• From: G. Subbiah (@ ool-435425b8.dyn.optonline.net) on: Wed May 14 21:05:09 EDT 2003
  
  Prof. A. K. Ramanujam has written a book translating some of the Padams and javalis. I have not seen or read the book but saw a review in one website related to CM. I will post that if I can recall the site.
  
  
• From: G. Subbiah (@ ool-435425b8.dyn.optonline.net) on: Wed May 14 21:09:43 EDT 2003
  
  The name of the book is "When God is a customer".
  A link is given for a review of the book.
  http://www.carnaticmusic.com/reviews/showbkreview.asp?code=review&code2=5
  
  
• From: Ramya Mohan (@ dialpool-210-214-115-57.maa.sify.net) on: Fri May 23 02:02:10 EDT 2003
  
  Hey all!
  I am a Bharatanatyam dancer,and Ive got to write my Vidwath exam shortly.Does anyone have the lyrics for the Javalis-Parulanna Maata(kapi)and another javali Varijamukhi Vittalana..in kannada(raga Kamach),their meaning.. and also where exactly I could download the songs?(if i could that is)
  thanks a lot!
  Waiting eagerly for your responses
  regards
  Ramya
  
  
• From: Lakshman (@ kit-nas2-33.55.porchlight.ca) on: Fri May 23 07:32:43 EDT 2003
  
  parulanna mATa. rAgA: kApi. Composer: Dharmapuri SubbarAya Iyer.
  
  P: parulenna mATa namma vaddu prANa nAyaka
  C1: mOmu cinna pOyinadi marmamEmirA mAyalADi bOdhanace pAya cEsErA
  2: madayAna evate nIku mandu beTTErA mundu delpu ipuDu mOvi vinta jEserA
  3: dharmapurini sthiramugA nelakonna sAmi nI dharmamuna nElukOrA nIku mrokkerA
  
  
• From: Ramya (@ dialpool-210-214-114-35.maa.sify.net) on: Tue May 27 04:45:55 EDT 2003
  
  hey lakshman!
  Thanks a lot for that one.I o u 1
  :)
  Ramya
  
  
• From: deepa krishnan (@ 202-63-162-14.exatt.com) on: Wed Jan 7 06:24:49
  
  can anyone pls send me lyrics of diff padams/javalis and bhav prakars, language no bar , hindustani/carnatic no bar along with the raag and taal .
  
  

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