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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

venkiks ,
Some of us have watched maaya kannadi ..if u scroll up ,u can see the comments from sanjeevi ,myself and mr.judge ....

I felt teh first half was a drag ,but the second half was nice ,considering cheran's sensibilities.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

app_engine wrote:
MrJudge, that's usually the case with "trend-setters"...even when they are not setting the trend anymore, they won't follow the trend...enna seiyya?


Yeah, that is the norm. But I believe IR is different from other trend-setters, and I don't want IR to follow the trend. So I am still hoping that he can turn things around and bounce back just by going back to live orchestra. Working with couple of good directors, lyricists and staying away from singing atleast in the movie will bring him back to the lost battle.

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IR, being the smart man he is, has realised this and that's probably the reason he is signing up more MalayALam movies.


I don't mind IR doing more movies and giving good music in Malayalam, but listening to tamil music is top priority, well not only to me, that will be the case with many IR fans.

In Mayakannadi, he had a good opportunity to give something good but failed IMO except couple of decent numbers.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things are felt by every IR fan.

1. He should go back to his original manual orchestration.

2. His 80s tunes had carnatic style fluctuations . That "nelivu sulivu" matters are missing nowadays.

Most of his current tunes are just plain with breaks in pallavi which doesn't mesmerize..example is "Nilavai sutri.." from Madhu etc..

But in Malayalam, he is delivering his old magic.

Nichayamaaga thamizhargal mel avarukku ava-nambikkaiyo alladhu kobamo irukku Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hindu Review :

"http://www.hindu.com/fr/2007/04/20/stories/2007042000230200.htm"

"Bottomline: Disappointing! "


"The film certainly benefits from Ilaiyaraja's songs and the background. He has literally celebrated his 31st year in films. From "Annakkili" to "Maayakkannadi" he has come a long way. The songs and orchestration do have something to talk about. "
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So bottomline is disappointing film lifted by Raja's music...Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just listened to Ajantha Songs...in summary

Return of trademark WCM music and orchestration techniques.

Different style of arranging the vocals for thoorigai.

There is freshness and no blunt sounding rhythm or synth in the songs..all have been mixed well...certainly a good album Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://vigneshram.blogspot.com/2007/04/whats-wrong-raja.html

Hope my post reflects the musings of all IR fans who miss his style of music and expect more from him
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe IR had once mentioned where i pay tax to my govt dutifully but they never give me a proper orchestra or something like that.

The synth stuff was not to keep in times but due to lack of support from orchestra he had to resort to synth stuff.

As for rehashed tunes and stuff...i feel that it is not that IR has lost his magic...its just that he is not inspired by the situations given to him...if you notice carefully his BGM has been more class for films due to their screenplay but the situations given to him are always the same and add to that directors not willing to reject the tune.

IR's magic is still there...only thing is who is willing to inspire him...if he was a 10 year MD we can feel angry but for someone who has given more than 7000 songs and has repeatedly mentioned his interest in non-filmi albums....only a director like kamal can inspire him with his thought provoking and differently styled films...thats why the vintage music...the rest just give him films to fill up the music rather than extract....i prefer if IR just sticks to non-filmi albums...we want him to prove his musical prowess to the world...filmi-music has been alrdy achieved Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you Hulkster.
But the point is, if he is not impressed by the storyline a tamil direct narrates, he can very well opt out of it, rather than giving a mediocre album and stay with non-filmi projects.

It was a disappointment for me, when I listened to "Oru naal oru kanavu" and "Adhu oru kanaa kaalam". Except for a few great and bright songs, all others were pedestrian.
That's what I observe with Raja nowadays, his hit rate in a particular album has come down to one song per album.
When u say "Pithaamagan" people remember only "Ilangaathu", for Virumaandi only "Unna vida".


I really admire you Mr.Hulkster, you have attained a stage where you are able to digest the facts very well and you optimistically admire his orchestration and interludes alone, even from a mediocre album like 'Ajantha'

I think, knowing the capability and the genius, I expect more from him. That's the problem.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vigneshram wrote:

I really admire you Mr.Hulkster, you have attained a stage where you are able to digest the facts very well and you optimistically admire his orchestration and interludes alone, even from a mediocre album like 'Ajantha'
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I think, knowing the capability and the genius, I expect more from him. That's the problem

Well said Thumbs Up! There is nothing wrong in accepting the facts.

Hulk,
FYI, The Hindu reviewer is a IR fan ( S.R.ASHOK KUMAR ) He rarely reviews movies in Hindu. Usually it is Malathi RangaRajan. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malathi RangaRajan also has good respect for IR..but she would have more neutral than this guy.

But who knows..? may be IR was a relief for those who watched the movie Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

raja_fan wrote:
Malathi RangaRajan also has good respect for IR..but she would have more neutral than this guy.

But who knows..? may be IR was a relief for those who watched the movie Smile


AFAIK, She puts her points in a subtle manner if not in a strong way. But she has more or less become 2 * Indiaglitz nowadays. She never highlights even the obvious negatives present in the movie.

Nowadays, it is tough to judge anything based on reviews from sites unless we hear / see a particular thing.

btw, raja_fan - Have u seen this movie ? Your opinion on this. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selvakumar,

I have not watched the movie even though I was eagerly planning to do so.

Now the reviews so far are not encouraging me to go to the theatre. I will wait for Sun TV "Ulaga tholai kaatchigalil mudhan muriyaga..Thiraikku vandhu sila maadhangale aana.." Smile

Saw MK songs in TV. Disappointing visuals Sad
Cheran should limit him with village subjects in my humble opinion..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.tamilcinema.com/CINENEWS/REVIEW/2007/mayakkannadi.asp

Ithu maathiri IR pathi kevalamana vimarsanam naan padichathillai

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sanjeevi,

The comment was very bitter, but true Smile
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