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Topic started by R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68-0-198-105.ri.ri.cox.net) on Mon Oct 20 15:11:42 .

"Yaadhum Oorae, Yaavarum Kaelhir" is the Gospel of TAMILIAN-CULTURE. Right from the Ancient days of Humanity around the world, Tamilians have established this highly healthy Social-Culture of UNIVERSAL-LOVE.

Participants are invited to discuss on the relevant Issues, in the HEALTHY ASPECT and HEARTY-OUTLOOK, true to the spirit of the above TAMILIAN GOSPEL.

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From: Sudhaama on Sun Feb 27 12:44:08 2005. [Full View]

Manu-Smrithi

Vaedhas are called SRUTHI ... which are the authentic Divine commandments... being the Voice of God communicated to the Humanity through Rishis and such other Seers towards the overall Emancipation and advancement of Mankind.

Whereas SMRITHIs are not the Divine-Commandments.... but man-made Laws and Regulations without any Divinity or Sanctity attached to.

"Smrithi" means..... "Code-of-Practice".... a just recorded version of the self-imposed practices already in existence but recorded by the Representatives of the Kings. It was not newly legalised to be imposed on by the Rulers.

During the ancient days the the people were governed more by their Social- discipline based on their unified understanding within their respective section formed on the basis of Occupation or Profession... likee Farmers, Merchants, Medical-practitioners, Sculptors and so on. So to say the Social-Laws self-prescribed by the respective section of Social-groups were recorded and codified as the Branches of Laws applicable to that section of Society only. During those days when the Kings were ruling over different parts of Bhaarath... for their convenience of Reign, they depended upon the Self-imposed Laws of each Section of the Society.

How the so called "Manu-Smirithi" came into existence?

The Code of Practice already adopted by various sections of the Society was recorded by one Minister named Manu, even on which lot of amendments and supplements have been incorporated subsequently varying from country to country.. There is much dispute and controversial statements on the originality of Manu-Smrithi, because the versions of Manu-Smirithi adopted by the Guptha-Kings are far different from that Chandraguptha mourya King as also from that of Kalinga Rulers.

While the Manu-Smrithi has been based on Castes, the definitions on various castes itself are inconsistent and ambiguous, further differing from one another versions of Manu-Smrithi even though all of them had been documented in different countries in Palm-leaves and Metal-plates.

Manu-Smrithi became an utter failure due to its illogical reasoning and justifications, even though it was already a self-imposed code of practice. Especially it was vehemently criticised and objected to by some of the Religious Leaders of those days, as discriminatory and inhuman Laws.

Then Chanakya wrote the Artha-Saasthra, as the common Law for Governing the people of a country.. which too was on the Communal basis. But even that Saasthram was a modified code-of-practice as practically felt convenient sections of the Society on Community-basis.

But the Ministers could not enforce Artha-sasthra too effectively because of much of Communal mix-up even within the Royal families subsequently.

Because the Learned men of those days could convince their Kings that those man-made Smrithis are ambiguous inconsistent impracticable some being even inhuman too irrespective of the degree of Crime or the magnitude of the Offense committed. They were also considered as the encroachment and Gross Violation of Vaedhic Stipulations of Humanitarian approach

Thus both the Manu-Smrithi and Artha-Saasthra totally failed during the Ancient days itself.
From: Sudhaama on Sun Feb 27 12:46:21 2005. [Full View]

Origin of Caste-System in India?

Castes got shaped by various means.. Mainly they were... Based on...

(1) Occupation or Profession.. Kuyavar, Naavidhar, Aasaari, Vaiththiyar, etc.

(2) Status caused by the Honours bestowed on them as Mudali, Vaanhan etc.

(3) Sects following a specific Faith... Pilhai, Iyer, Iyengar etc.

(4) Sects oppressed by the Kings as the habitual Criminals, Traitors(Unduly) of the Kingdom... Sandaalhaas... and others.

(1) Based on Occupation / Talent

Let us consider the case of a Hindu family. Within any one Family, the tasks are apportioned by the Head of the Family.... the aged Father.... amongst his grown up Sons. Suppose he has 4 Sons, and varieties of Family-duties are to be distributed. He knows the discerning competencies of his each son distinctively different from one another, by their individuality.... He analyses as to which Son is well-competent to perform the Manual-duties in his Farms... another to take care of the Cattle for ablusions etc.... the other to take care of Selling the Grains in themarket... another to take care of his Financial transactions... another to be at home with him in assisting in office-correspodency as well as to take care of the Home-duties. Corresponding with the individual competency with the Job-demands of the tasks on hand... he allots to each individual son and gets his family run by means of Team-spirit by the Family-members as the Common asset of the whole family... without any discrimination.

So was the spirit of the ideal Kings of Ancient days.... the King being treated as the Head of the Society... his Subjects considered as of one Single Family.... of the Kingdom as One Home.

Accordingly matching with the individual Talents some people were selected as the apt Farmers, Sculptors, Merchants, Teachers, Artists, Medical-practitioners and the like. They formed into several groups based on such occupation and used to live together in a specific area. They formed unions amongst them group-wise. Such unions were found necessary to represent to the King as well as in dealing with the relevant other Group for mutual Transactions.

So to say a Pot-maker has to sell his pots to a Farmer and fetch Food-grains in return. Similarly for other occupations too.

Then such people wanted to transfer their Job-knowledge to their children to ensure the committed earning of his posterity but wanted to confine such Skills within his family only, since he did not want others to compete witht his children. So it became the Kula-Thozhil (Family-occupation).

Ultimately each group was identified with a Name attributed by the Kings and the Common Society... based on their Occupation / Talent.

... To continue....
From: Sudhaama on Fri Apr 15 15:47:18 2005. [Full View]

GOD- WORSHIP in Ancient Tamilian-Culture.

Generally the Tribals and Savages considered Nature by its indications of Sun, Storm, Rain, Fire etc..as the Super-Human-Power... they regarded them.... as the objects of FEAR.

Whereas ...quite contrary to them... the ancient Tamilians regarded Nature including Sun as the objects of FAITH (the Opposite Spirit to "Fear")....

...and Nature as the Super-Human-power... as their Life-Support..

... .whereas the Natural-calamities...considered as the Punishment from God for some ills or Sins committed by the Society...

...So they were more Social-spirited to ensure none of them commit anything sinful ... even within ones own family... which may eventually lead to the detriment of the Society on the whole due to wrath of the hidden God.

Besides they felt... that Sun is the Supervisory-Leader of Nature which makes their Life...in several ways...and so.... out of Gratitude they regarded the Sun... as the Supreme-power, ...alongside the Nature in the overall sense.

At their initial stages... they had No Religion ... nor any such means of Worship... but only Faith that there exists One Supreme-Human Power which organises Nature.. But later on they started worshiping Sun as God.

Only with such a spirit towards Sun-God-Faith... we see in Silappadhikaaram...

... "Gnjaayirhu poatrudhum.."... meaning... "Oh ! the Sun God !!... Our obesance to you.!!!"

Such an impled Faith continues even now .. in the Tamilians culture... in various ways.... by their Calendar... Festivals.. Customs etc.

Basically Tamilians' main occupation being Agriculture... all their Festivals and Customs are related with it... intertwined with Sun and Nature.

(1) Tamilian Calendar is based on Soorya-maana...(Astronomical calculations based on the movement of Sun in relation to Earth).

(2) Tamilian months relate to the same period of its traverse within the specific segment of 30 degrees circle(Horoscopic House). Months are named after the Star coinciding with the Full-Moon-day (Pournami)... So to say... in Chiththirai month, the Pournami falls on the day of Chiththirai star... and in Vaikaasi, the Pournami falls on Visaakam day... and so on.

(3)The Great celebration of the year is Pongal.. the day Sun enters Makara Rasi on the first day of the month of Thai... so to say the commencement of Uththaraayana.... in relation to Sun. .. which day is celebrated for initiating the first Food out of newly harvested crop.

(4)Next prominent celebration falls on the Tamilian New Years day.. which coincides with its entry into Maesha Rasi...Sun's exalted House..This day is celebrated as the Symbolic DAY OF PROSPERITY ...with Fertility of Fruits... while Pongal is celebrated with the Fertility of Grains. Chiththirai month is the only month... when the Sun rays are abundantly available for the Crops and Fruit-Trees... because of clear-sky.. with the minimum amount of clouds... coupled with the least days of overcast sky. Consequently the Agriculturists get the maximum benefit out of Sunshine during Chiththirai month.

(5)Aavani is the month...of Simma Rasi.. the Ruling House of Sun... when the sowing seeds are completed... and their prayer to Nature's co-operation commences.

(6) Purattaasi is the month when.... NATURE is worshipped.... in the form of Navarathri Kolu.

(7) Aippasi is the Idle-month of the year for the Farmer... with minimum activity in the Farm ... It is the month of Weak-Sun... being debilitated in Thula Rasi... It coincides with the month of Heavy Rains.

Thus... SUN and NATURE .. .. play the great role and influence on the Festivals and Celebrations of.... Tamilian-Culture.
From: Sudhaama on Wed Apr 27 15:09:33 2005. [Full View]

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From: F.S.Gandhi vandayar on Mon May 9 4:14:05 2005. [Full View]

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Dear Thiru Sudhaama,

The word pamphu is from root 'pammu' which means 'Adanki Ezhuthal'-'Sulantru thakkuthal'- Virulent attack, 'Marainthu thakkuthal'- hide and attack.

The Chola military has 'pampappadai' which is third series in military attack. It followed the rule hide and attack.

pamparam - a wood element play in country side.

The english word 'Pump' is from french 'pompe' which means virulent attack might have come from Greek which loaned that word from tamil.

f.s.gandhi

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From: F.S.Gandhi vandayar on Mon May 9 4:17:12 2005. [Full View]

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Dear Thiru Sudhaama,

The word pamphu is from root 'pammu' which means 'Adanki Ezhuthal'-'Sulantru thakkuthal'- Virulent attack, 'Marainthu thakkuthal'- hide and attack.

The Chola military had 'pampappadai' which was third series in military attack. It followed the rule hide and attack.

pamparam - a wood element play in country side.

The english word 'Pump' is from french 'pompe' which means virulent attack might have come from Greek which loaned that word from tamil.

f.s.gandhi
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From: Sudhaama on Fri Jul 17 9:44:34 2009. [Full View]

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.யாதும் ஊரே.! யாவரும் கேளிர்.!!!....

..தமிழ்-இலக்கியங்கள் வரையறுக்கும் மானிட பண்பு.

..இன்றைய உலகில் கேலி-கூத்து ஆனதா.?...

தற்கால சூழலுக்கு பொருந்தாத ஏட்டு-சுரைக்காயா... பரந்த கண்ணோட்டம் கொண்ட தமிழ் இலக்கிய நெறி.?

இலக்கிய உரையாடல் (Literature Discussions)...

....அரசியல் உரையாடல் அல்ல.! (Not a Political discussion..)

...பட்டி-மன்றமும் அல்ல (Nor the Debate.!)

தங்கள் நற்சிந்தனைகளை இங்கே பரிமாறி விருந்து படைக்க அழைக்கிறேன்.!

.வருக அன்பர்களே.! பங்கு கொண்டு... தமிழ்-இன்பம் தருக.! பெறுக.!
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