Topic started by nirosha sen on Sat Feb 26 0:42:10 2005.

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Oh Urme - surely the old Indian Diaspora is a whole lot bigger than a handful of Guyanese born Indians???!!! I'm sorry you got pissed off with some folks!! But why take it out on the rest too?????

Would you not consider staying on and participating???? I would dearly like to see your post more often. There are so many of us here from all corners of the world, but do choose to worship and celebrate our Indianness!! Who else could we share it with if not our own lot???!! Surely, there'll be the good, bad and ugly but isn't that part and parcel of life????

Please Stay!!!!

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• From: nirosha sen on Mon Jul 13 1:55:40 2009.

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  reminds me of the bk, 'a house for mr Biswas'. The protoganist referred to the other family's house as the Monkey House. I guess I understand the historical ramification now.
  
  

• From: Ramona on Wed Jul 15 13:46:25 2009.

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  http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=3520
  
  Quotes have been made from this very article posted on Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:57 am on this very thread if not elsewhere on this hub. We can also recall in the old hub one female name Shreeya from Guyana claiming that all the culture she has left is the tying of her saree. Some of us may be aware of who she truly is and aware of the relationship of this propaganda to others from the same source.
  
  Now that Sri Prakash Gossai died and tributes are made wherever members of the community reside and considering it’s a closely knit community, there is no doubt that the above and the full story behind it, are echoing in the community.
  
  In years to come this story will be repeated again and again in memory of Sri Prakash Gossai where his work tells the truth, serves as a defense and is legendary.
  
  For those with a good understanding of it, I think, will begin to understand the historical significance of this all.
  
  It was already pointed out on thus hub or old hub, that there is the Ontario or Canadian equivalent of Sri Prakash Gossai and the number of temples in New York built by Guyanese.
  
  
  

• From: Ramona on Sat Jul 18 13:26:32 2009.

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  "One of the major consequences of British colonization and imperial oppression of Indians in the Caribbean is the deprivation and erosion of their cultural and social heritage. Although Indians have contributed significantly to Guyana’s economic and social development, they continue to struggle for their heritage survival and national representation. Most importantly, Indian women have been relegated to subordinate positions as their presence continues to be limited in the social and political fabric of Guyana. Both men and women suffered tremendously at the hands of the colonizers, but Indian women suffered doubly in the patriarchal society....from the women who courageously traveled across the treacherous ocean (the kala pani) to Guyana as laborers on sugar plantations to those striving for higher education and participation in national life. They formed roots in another land, raised their children under harsh colonial conditions and post independence turmoil, and made sacrifices to give their children a better education. Their daughters continue to face many challenges where their womanhood is still under scrutiny". And .............
  
  

• From: Ramona on Mon Jul 27 12:51:24 2009.

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  Just a reminder and to emphasize recent points above:
  
  
  “There is a sense of urgency in this film as it follows world changing events in four continents culminating in the brutal sugar cane plantations of the Caribbean. Through out the British Empire it was thought that slavery was abolished in 1833, but the British plantation owners wouldn't have it. It reveals the trials and tribulations of both the resilent African slaves and the unsuspecting Indians from Calcutta who were sold on the golden dreams of "El Dorado" only to find themselves on a slave ship to hard labor in an unforgiving land. Each faced perils at the hands of British plantation owners who positioned these two exploited people against each other. The character of Laxman defies centuries of colonial exploitation and forces the hand of the British Empire to ultimately enforce the abolition of slavery once and for all”.
  
  "No one make it out of this place, everywhere you go, you fall into the white man hands. They are every where".
  
  http://www.rbcradio.com/guiana1838.html
  
  
  "..The planter could also decide if an apprentice's work was not satisfactory, thus forcing the apprentice to do extra work when he could be working for wages. It was a usual practice for a planter to put an apprentice in the lock-up on a trumped-up charge to await the arrival of the magistrate on the plantation. However, the charges would be dropped just before the magistrate's arrival, but the apprentice would still have to work the extra time equivalent to the period he was jailed. On some plantations where the ex-slaves had provision grounds, the planters made it difficult to earn money from them. In many cases, the planters ordered that fruit trees should be cut down, while others prevented the ex-slaves from keeping livestock".
  
  
  "..The planters, because of their control of the Court of Policy, were able to influence the passage of laws to control the ex-slaves..".
  
  http://www.guyana.org/features/guyanastory/chapter46.html
  
  "The story of our Indian people thrown into a system they did not come looking for and were caught by complete surprise when the British planters enslaved those that made the early voyages from India to British colonies in the West Indies."
  
  
  “……. plays the part of Urmila, a young innocent girl from Calcutta trapped in the system of indentureship”.
  
  http://www.indocaribbeanworld.com/archives/october6/index2.html
  
  
  

• From: Ramona on Wed Sep 16 19:23:25 2009.

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  Ramona wrote:

  http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=3520 Quotes have been made from this very article posted on Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:57 am on this very thread if not elsewhere on this hub. We can also recall in the old hub one female name Shreeya from Guyana claiming that all the culture she has left is the tying of her saree. Some of us may be aware of who she truly is and aware of the relationship of this propaganda to others from the same source. Now that Sri Prakash Gossai died and tributes are made wherever members of the community reside and considering it’s a closely knit community, there is no doubt that the above and the full story behind it, are echoing in the community. In years to come this story will be repeated again and again in memory of Sri Prakash Gossai where his work tells the truth, serves as a defense and is legendary. For those with a good understanding of it, I think, will begin to understand the historical significance of this all.

  
  
  Why is the link from March 29, 2007 not accessible and why is it different?
  
  http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/1995/8/1995-8-02.shtml
  
  Could it be because of the "relationship" issue?
  
  And only experts would know that in the same manner Brandan's post disappeared in this thread. He referred to it in his Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:22 am upon seeing my post of what happened.
  
  When one claims post have been distorted, it should not be doubted.
  
  

• From: Braandan on Wed Sep 23 11:23:33 2009.

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  Is Ramona the new name for Oormila?
  
  

• From: Ramona on Sat Sep 26 11:15:53 2009.

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  PMs keep flowing in about this, but I rather keep it a mystery.
  
  

• From: skanthan on Sat Sep 26 16:47:08 2009.

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  Ramona wrote:

  PMs keep flowing in about this, but I rather keep it a mystery.

  
  
  I think it is Urmila.
  
  

• From: Ramona on Mon Oct 12 10:38:54 2009.

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  This is a very serious period; a period waited for over a decade. It is not time to laugh out loud. That time will come. You will then be sure of who I am.
  
  

• From: skanthan on Mon Oct 12 14:37:44 2009.

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  Ramona wrote:

  This is a very serious period; a period waited for over a decade. It is not time to laugh out loud. That time will come. You will then be sure of who I am.

  
  
  Okay!
  
  

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